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[Iakus]

I just learned there is no romances in Pillars of Eternity. Means no real competiton for awesome bioware games full of emotions and roleplay.

 

But it will be moddable.

 

Ergo, romances will be in the game.  At some point 

[Enigmatick]

I just learned there is no romances in Pillars of Eternity. Means no real competiton for awesome bioware games full of emotions and roleplay.

Please let this bit be sarcasm.

[dutch_gamer]

If Dragon Age Inquisition has to worry about the three named games which come out on the same day, the developers and publisher would have no real confidence in their own product. I believe the only true competition to this game was/is the Witcher 3 but with that game coming out next year DAI should have a good chance to do well.

[LilyasAvalon]

The only really big hitter I see on there is Arkham Knight and maybe Shadows of Mordor, depending on how the well the marketing team does.

 

There's also Assassin's Creed Unity coming out the same month, but even though it still has a pretty strong following, the general response has been lackluster at best since there's a new game once a year now.

 

Besides. It'll only be a few more months until Christmas, I imagine Santa will be getting quite a few letters asking for it.

 

Also, I feel obligated to point out that "Dislike" for Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3 comes from a small vocal group, easily less than 0.01% of the people who bought it. To the rest, those games are above-average to Excellent titles that successfully carry the franchise forward.

 

You do realise there's a difference between dislike and hate I hope? I like DA2 and ME3 and I adore both the franchises, but both are easily the most disappointing games I have ever played and I haven't met a single person who hasn't disagreed with that statement.

[Maraas]

I believe the only true competition to this game was/is the Witcher 3

I could never understand this "Witcher vs. DA" thing. DA is a party-based RPG, Witcher is not. DA lets you customize your player character, Witcher does not. DA has tactical pause, Witcher has not.

 

They do different things in different ways, how exactly are they competitors?

[Maraas]

I like DA2 and ME3 and I adore both the franchises, but both are easily the most disappointing games I have ever played and I haven't met a single person who hasn't disagreed with that statement.

Erm, hello. Nice to meet you.

[Naktis]

For me its either DA:I or Civilization beyond earth. tho I expect the later one to get delayed and if not well then waif for reviews

[Sanunes]

 

You do realise there's a difference between dislike and hate I hope? I like DA2 and ME3 and I adore both the franchises, but both are easily the most disappointing games I have ever played and I haven't met a single person who hasn't disagreed with that statement.

 

I disagree, I think Assassin's Creed 3, BioShock Infinite, and Alien Colonial Marines are all more disappointing.

[dutch_gamer]

I could never understand this "Witcher vs. DA" thing. DA is a party-based RPG, Witcher is not. DA lets you customize your player character, Witcher does not. DA has tactical pause, Witcher has not.

 

They do different things in different ways, how exactly are they competitors?

Both are RPGs. They are most certainly in direct competition for someone like me. I don't play Bioware RPGs because of the party system I play those games because they are RPGs. Both games have at least more similarities than any of the games named by the OP.

[AkiKishi]

Both are RPGs. They are most certainly in direct competition for someone like me. I don't play Bioware RPGs because of the party system I play those games because they are RPGs. Both games have at least more similarities than any of the games named by the OP.

 

Probably not since people who like RPGs tend to buy them all anyway unless they have reasons(ES buyers being the exception,but that's a very different design). The majority of people have eclectic gaming tastes so anything could be competition if it comes out in the same window. Especially if its a well advertised game. 

 

DA2 only sold about half of what DA:O did and DA2's sales were front loaded and then pretty much disapeared.On top of that ME3 was controversial. 

[AkiKishi]

Really your priority is Shadows of Mordor? I don't think I've ever played a good LOTR game, they either butcher the lore or hang it loosely over a game with poor gameplay and graphics.

 

 

Yes, there is a lot of stuff in that game I'm interested in. On the other hand Bioware have not really made a new game since KOTOR so I'm in no rush. Both ME3 and DA2 halved in price within a month so I'll hold off and see if the pattern repeats unless DA:I turns out to be exceptional.

[Abraham_uk]

There is no such thing as a reliable statistic for how many people like or dislike any game.

 

In the end all we have is reviews and consumer feedback along with sales figures.

Even that is not a particularly good indication of how well a game did, how much people like said game or how good a game is.

 

Anyone who claims to know the answer to any of the above is being ridiculous.

Did most people who played Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2 enjoy playing those games?

A: It's impossible to know.

B: It's doubtful that the result would be useful.

 

[Prepare for some hardcore speculation. I am probably completely wrong about these assumptions].

 

Most gamers either like a game or they don't. They don't think hard as to why a game wasn't their cup of tea. It normally comes down to "I enjoyed it" or "I didn't really like it". Both opinions are useless. Completely utterly useless. Even if 99.9% of the people who played the game enjoyed it, doesn't mean that you succeeded. Guess which people actually put some thought into it. Well not the silent majority, who didn't post any comments on the internet. Please note that there is nothing wrong with enjoying a game, or film or book on a surface level. Heck I prefer to enjoy most forms of entertainment on that level. I tend to be a bit more analytical on BSN because otherwise I'd have nothing to say. I like Mass Effect 3 and I like Dragon Age 2. Well I certainly contributed nothing towards those discussions. I haven't said why I enjoy those games. I haven't thought of any way future games could be improved. My opinions are worthless unless I elaborate. That is what I describe as a silent majority. It was good, okay or bad, end of story.

 

 

As for "The vocal minority". Well since very few people voice their opinions on the internet regarding a game, the few that do are obviously going to be a "minority". This does not invalidate their opinions. Their feedback might just be the most useful feedback of all.

 

 

Think about it this way. Fans are the result of goodwill. This is your long term revenue for a game. When those individuals who take a casual interest in a game lose interest, all that is left are the core group of customers who keep coming back for more. If you lose that goodwill, you can only rely on new comers to the series and those with a casual interest. In other words you're leaving a lot to chance. If those potential new comers hear a lot of negative press from the fans, they might not bother.

 

The vocal minority are probably the best source of advertising for a game. Word of mouth is often trusted over professional reviews and marketing hype. If the vocal minority is unhappy, trying to get anyone to play your game is going to be an uphill struggle.

 

 

We may be few. We may not always agree with each other, but if we shout loud enough, people will listen. Amongst those listeners are potential new entrants to the franchise. We can put off a lot of people from purchasing the next Mass Effect and Dragon Age. There were a lot of people considering purchasing Mass Effect 3. Then they heard about the backlash and now they don't want to risk purchasing the game. If those people do purchase Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2, it would be at a safer reduced price. So yes, we the "vocal minority" can potentially damage a company if we're not satisfied.

[AkiKishi]

I paid 98p for Dragon Age 2 at a Morrisons Sale. Mass Effect 3 was £5.

 

Retailers over order and the price tends to drop fast.

[Maraas]

Both are RPGs.

Fair enough. I just thought they delivered completely different experience. It's certainly true in my case. 

[Jsixgun]

I don't think Shadows of Mordor is much a contender. I have a bias, however, as I believe what they are doing to the lore of such a fine artist like Tolkien is pretty dreadful. 

[Jaulen]

Bungie should be more concerned that I will have apparently quit Destiny cold turkey on October 7th.
:-)

 

Ditto.

 

I was thinking almost this same thing this weekend....

 

"Thank goodness Destiny comes out a month before DA:I, 'cause otherwise I probably wouldn't be picking it up until late next year"

 

Also, I'm happy with the Oct 7th release date. It's my anniversary after all.

And a week of uniterrupted playing will be my present.

 

But i don't see anything on that list of releases that will be competition for DA:I.

Questionable titles to even my limited knowlege of the games (Aliens and Batman i don't recall great buzz on previous titles...I may be wrong, and the LoTR one like others have said, looked like a bad AC ripoff (even my hubs who's into the LOTR games 'meh'd' at it))

[Kinross]

For me DA2 was disappointing and ME3 was a joke (both the ending and the way Bioware handled the fallout) so no pre-order for me, have played ME3 only once and won't be going back to it or the ME universe. Aim to wait until after DAI is out and there's some reviews available before deciding on purchasing.

[cJohnOne]

2.5 million times .01 is 25,000. Nobody else checked that?

[Fast Jimmy]

2.5 million times .01 is 25,000. Nobody else checked that?

Actually, the poster said it was 0.01%, which is .0001, which is 250. And the idea that less than 250 people disliked DA2 and/or ME3 is laughable.

That being said, someone did already point out the terrible math fail not long after it was posted.

[cJohnOne]

So he should have said .01 with no percent symbol to say what he meant?

[cJohnOne]

Or 1% is equal to .01?

[LinksOcarina]

The only really big hitter I see on there is Arkham Knight and maybe Shadows of Mordor, depending on how the well the marketing team does.

 

There's also Assassin's Creed Unity coming out the same month, but even though it still has a pretty strong following, the general response has been lackluster at best since there's a new game once a year now.

 

Besides. It'll only be a few more months until Christmas, I imagine Santa will be getting quite a few letters asking for it.

 

 

You do realise there's a difference between dislike and hate I hope? I like DA2 and ME3 and I adore both the franchises, but both are easily the most disappointing games I have ever played and I haven't met a single person who hasn't disagreed with that statement.

 

I disagree with that statement. If those two are the most disappointing games ever for you, you need to play more games in all honesty. 

 

There, you met me now.

 

As for Arkham Knight, I agree on that. Although I am starting to get tired of the batman games at this point...its becoming much like Assassins Creed in that vein, over-staying its welcome quickly. LoTR games are very hit or miss, Shadows of Mordor shows promise, but it might end up more like Dungeon Siege 3, competent, but overshadowed by bigger games. 

[Todd23]

What? The two games coming out on the exact same day as inquisition; thus making it extremely difficult for gamestops to do a proper midnight launch for it? Nahh.

[Fredvdp]

I could never understand this "Witcher vs. DA" thing. DA is a party-based RPG, Witcher is not. DA lets you customize your player character, Witcher does not. DA has tactical pause, Witcher has not.

 

They do different things in different ways, how exactly are they competitors?

While they have fundamental gameplay differences, there are some major similarities.

 

• A rich political background
• Player choice
• Fantasy creatures (dragons, werewolves)
• Dwarves and elves
• Social issues (elves in ghettos)
• Games mostly taking place in one city (Vizima vs Kirkwall)