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[DanielCofour]

Also, I feel obligated to point out that "Dislike" for Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3 comes from a small vocal group, easily less than 0.01% of the people who bought it. To the rest, those games are above-average to Excellent titles that successfully carry the franchise forward.

 

whooho. I would argue almost the opposite. The Mass Effect ending conundrum really pissed a lot of people off. And Dragon Age 2 as well. Keep in mind, we're not talking about people who hated the game, the kind that rate it a 1/10 on Metacritic out of spite, we're talking about people who were at least disappointed with it, who "disliked" some or most aspects of the game. In that sense, I actually think the minority is the one who loved the games. Don't get me wrong, I like Bioware, that's the reason I'm prowling their forums. But even though the reason I liked their games(focus on story narration and choice) is still there, even I am a bit disappointed about the way things seem to work in the recent years.

[Vortex13]

It is always baffling to read what fans think about game sales and economics.

 

True, much of it is driven by access to incomplete sales figures, but even the conclusions based on those figures is... sketchy at best. Generally they'll say whatever the one interpreting them wants them to say. Which is the way of figures, I suppose.

 

 

Slightly off topic, but do you happen to have any upcoming games (asides from DA:I) that you are looking forward to?

[Fast Jimmy]

The thing that always baffled me personally is how developers respond to nonsense threads like this one, instead of answering some simple questions fans have. I have waited since December 2013, maybe i should make a pointless thread about sales or collectors edition to get attention.

What is your question? Is it about something they can't talk about yet?

[AkiKishi]

whooho. I would argue almost the opposite. The Mass Effect ending conundrum really pissed a lot of people off. And Dragon Age 2 as well. Keep in mind, we're not talking about people who hated the game, the kind that rate it a 1/10 on Metacritic out of spite, we're talking about people who were at least disappointed with it, who "disliked" some or most aspects of the game. In that sense, I actually think the minority is the one who loved the games. Don't get me wrong, I like Bioware, that's the reason I'm prowling their forums. But even though the reason I liked their games(focus on story narration and choice) is still there, even I am a bit disappointed about the way things seem to work in the recent years.

 

Mass Effect 3's ending was like being kicked in the nads. You have to remember, not only was this the ending to the game, but a trilogy that had spanned years. I imagine the people who played ME/2 multiple times in order to craft the perfect ending, only to have it turn into "pick a flavour" felt worse than that.

[Andraste_Reborn]

What is your question? Is it about something they can't talk about yet?

 

I think he wants to know if warriors can dual wield.

[Fast Jimmy]

I think he wants to know if warriors can dual wield.

Ah. I'm not 100% sure Gaider would know that, to be honest. It would be more of a Seb or Mike Laidlaw question. And anyone would have better luck going to Twitter to get a response from Mike.

[Mathias]

It is always baffling to read what fans think about game sales and economics.

 

True, much of it is driven by access to incomplete sales figures, but even the conclusions based on those figures is... sketchy at best. Generally they'll say whatever the one interpreting them wants them to say. Which is the way of figures, I suppose.

 

I also said in the very first sentence that I do not know what the financial situation is over at Bioware, and continued to speak in context that I'm not sure what the situation is, using words like "guessing" and "probably". I was asking a question, not making a statement. There are a few notable games coming out around the same time DA:I is, and I know for a fact there are some people who are cautious towards buying the game after DA2 and ME3, so I thought "Hey...is all of this gonna affect the sales?" That's all I was wondering, and I'm not trying to come off as a doomsayer. In fact I already acknowledged someone on here making a good point against my OP. I would say at this point in time I a bit more confident about the situation, and I don't think these other games will affect DA:I that much.

 

I'm just not sure if your post was directed at me, if it wasn't then my mistake.

[Maraas]

I imagine the people who played ME/2 multiple times in order to craft the perfect ending, only to have it turn into "pick a flavour" felt worse than that.

Being one of those people I can assure you I was pleased with the effect it had on ME3 story and ending. The latter was far more nuanced than ever before in the series, actually.

Spoiler

You can speed-run ME/ME2 all you want, skipping vital stuff, and you still get the same choice in the end. I tried that with ME3 and I was emotionally devasted by the results. I actually deleted that profile.

 

I looked back at the first ending I got and was amazed that I initially thought it was bittersweet at best, when it was actually so bright and hopeful and promising. It's been months before I found it in me to try and speed-run the game again, but with the Collector base intact, and wow.

 

On a side note, the idea of the Cycles never made any sense to me until that universally hated brat explained it, bringing some semblance of logic to the plot I deemed beyond repair.

[Iosev]

Bethesda have something coming out in the same window. It's not known what since it says E3 placeholder. 

 

That could well be more of a factor than anything in the OP.

I think The Evil Within got delayed to October (it was originally a summer release), so perhaps their October game is that (technically it's developed by Tango Gameworks and published by Bethesda).

 

Edit: I didn't see your later response regarding The Evil Within.

[DumSheeps]

If they dont delay the game they will regret it. Remember my words. 

28.5.2014 - i called it. See you October with the "told you so" which is the most used phrase by me in my daily life. People just refuse to believe, but i will be very busy person this fall. Quoting myself for the things people are blind at the moment because of the hype train. 

[dutch_gamer]

And for what should they delay the game? Is it for dual wielding warriors? That is your main agenda, dual wielding warriors. I am sorry but dual wielding warriors are not needed for the game to be a success.

 

And anyone can always say I told you so, because nowadays most games are met with the sky is falling commentary at release. This doesn't mean you can say I told you so. It just means some gamers see everything black and white. If one thing is not to their liking the game has failed.

[AlanC9]

When is it Bio are supposed to delay the game to, again?

[The Baconer]

See you October with the "told you so" which is the most used phrase by me in my daily life. People just refuse to believe, but i will be very busy person this fall. Quoting myself for the things people are blind at the moment because of the hype train. 

 

I bet you're a real hit at parties.

[PSUHammer]

RE:  OP Subject line

 

No.

[Melca36]

If they dont delay the game they will regret it. Remember my words. 

28.5.2014 - i called it. See you October with the "told you so" which is the most used phrase by me in my daily life. People just refuse to believe, but i will be very busy person this fall. Quoting myself for the things people are blind at the moment because of the hype train. 

 

Sorry but they have already delayed the game. If you don't like what you see...then don't buy the game. You just are upset because you are NOT getting what you want.

[Melca36]

And for what should they delay the game? Is it for dual wielding warriors? That is your main agenda, dual wielding warriors. I am sorry but dual wielding warriors are not needed for the game to be a success.

 

And anyone can always say I told you so, because nowadays most games are met with the sky is falling commentary at release. This doesn't mean you can say I told you so. It just means some gamers see everything black and white. If one thing is not to their liking the game has failed.

OP is likely a troll. Ignore him.

[laudable11]

I'm just glad I get to spend a month with Destiny before DA:I. Those other games can be purchased when they go on sale.

[Deflagratio]

If they dont delay the game they will regret it. Remember my words. 

28.5.2014 - i called it. See you October with the "told you so" which is the most used phrase by me in my daily life. People just refuse to believe, but i will be very busy person this fall. Quoting myself for the things people are blind at the moment because of the hype train. 

 

Sounds like you've just deluded yourself into thinking your opinion is the final word on any matter. Also, creating sock puppet accounts that agree with one another isn't "Being Right". Perhaps this is unrelated to the discussion at hand, perhaps it isn't, I leave that judgement to the audience.

[gangly369]

I also said in the very first sentence that I do not know what the financial situation is over at Bioware, and continued to speak in context that I'm not sure what the situation is, using words like "guessing" and "probably". I was asking a question, not making a statement. There are a few notable games coming out around the same time DA:I is, and I know for a fact there are some people who are cautious towards buying the game after DA2 and ME3, so I thought "Hey...is all of this gonna affect the sales?" That's all I was wondering, and I'm not trying to come off as a doomsayer. In fact I already acknowledged someone on here making a good point against my OP. I would say at this point in time I a bit more confident about the situation, and I don't think these other games will affect DA:I that much.

 

I'm just not sure if your post was directed at me, if it wasn't then my mistake.

 

First off, I personally don't believe David was targeting you so much as it was a general response to threads like these and the type of assumptions people will come to within these discussions. Of course, it's not like I'm his spokesperson, so maybe it was.

 

That being said, I don't see how you can legitimately be expecting a response from a dev on a question like this. What sane person would ever come out and say "Oh, you're right, we did pick a crappy time to release this game. Look at all this competition. This is SURELY going to affect the sales of our product' ? 

 

If bioware feels that, for some reason, the game is going to bomb, they will change the date to better suit their projections. Not that they will ever say such a thing to the public. Which again brings into question why there is even a need for this thread (other than to stir up fans anxiety over whether or not a game sells well)

 

Sit back, relax, and, if you really enjoy the game come Oct 7, tell your friends about it. Write a review. Spread the word. That's about as much a fan can do when it comes to helping a game be successful (unless your a billionaire and you buy multiple copies of the game). Worrying about this other stuff like when a product is released does nothing beneficial to yourself or others.

[addiction21]

Sounds like you've just deluded yourself into thinking your opinion is the final word on any matter. Also, creating sock puppet accounts that agree with one another isn't "Being Right". Perhaps this is unrelated to the discussion at hand, perhaps it isn't, I leave that judgement to the audience.

 

Well it is the internet so we do have to deal with people that think they are the ultimate opinion on anything or everything.

 

Also a big f u to your avatar. I needs more Venture Brothers.

 

And to this game well it had to be released at some point. There were always going to be other games released around the same time. So what is the issues other then some sad chicken little the sky is falling attitude?

[Mathias]

First off, I personally don't believe David was targeting you so much as it was a general response to threads like these and the type of assumptions people will come to within these discussions. Of course, it's not like I'm his spokesperson, so maybe it was.

 

That being said, I don't see how you can legitimately be expecting a response from a dev on a question like this. What sane person would ever come out and say "Oh, you're right, we did pick a crappy time to release this game. Look at all this competition. This is SURELY going to affect the sales of our product' ? 

 

If bioware feels that, for some reason, the game is going to bomb, they will change the date to better suit their projections. Not that they will ever say such a thing to the public. Which again brings into question why there is even a need for this thread (other than to stir up fans anxiety over whether or not a game sells well)

 

Sit back, relax, and, if you really enjoy the game come Oct 7, tell your friends about it. Write a review. Spread the word. That's about as much a fan can do when it comes to helping a game be successful (unless your a billionaire and you buy multiple copies of the game). Worrying about this other stuff like when a product is released does nothing beneficial to yourself or others.

 

I wasn't asking the devs, I was asking you guys. But I'm sure you knew that right? Also I am relaxed, the game is 5 months away, so all I have right now is to speculate and discuss the game. 

[Deadmac]

I don't know what the financial situation is over at EA/Bioware, it could be good or it could be bad, but I'm guessing there's a big budget behind this game and EA will want it to be a major success. Probably needing to sell at least a few million copies. If this is the case, then is October 7 really the best time?

 

When Dragon Age: Inquisition is released, we got Alien: Isolation, LoTR: Shadows of Mordor, and Drive Club being released that same day. If that's not enough we have a colossal hitter coming out the very next week called Batman: Arkham Knight. The other problem to consider is that Bioware has a bit of an uphill battle to climb here. I'm sure some of you loved Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3, but let's be honest, a lot of people didn't. There's gonna be some people out there who don't have a lot of money that are gonna choose between DA:I and Batman: AK.

 

The way I see it, I think DA:I is at a disadvantage here to do very well commercially. If you look at the past few years, DA2 and ME3 released without any real competition. I'm making this thread cause I'm a bit concerned about the success of DA:I. If the game is good then I want it to do well so we can keep getting more games from Bioware.

 

Healthy skepticism is always good. I am not sure if BioWare still has a strong following. Since there has been a gap between releases, I have a funny feeling that the fanbase has slightly dwindled. I am not an expert.

 

As someone said to me, "do not own another person's problems". If "Dragon Age: Inqusition" is a smashing success, I will feel really happy for BioWare. If the game ends up in a dark pit, BioWare will only have themselves to blame.

 

Is BioWare really at a disadvantage? I do not know. EA video games are not currently jumping off the shelves. During the past few game releases, EA has blotched virtually every single one of them. Did they learn anything? Who knows?

 

We will have to wait and see.

 

It is always baffling to read what fans think about game sales and economics.

 

True, much of it is driven by access to incomplete sales figures, but even the conclusions based on those figures is... sketchy at best. Generally they'll say whatever the one interpreting them wants them to say. Which is the way of figures, I suppose.

 

You can bring in a hundred million dollars in revenue, and you can still walk away with a nuked fridge.

[Todd23]

Well it is the internet so we do have to deal with people that think they are the ultimate opinion on anything or everything.

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It's not about thinking we have the ultimate opinion. It's about thinking we're right when everyone else is wrong. When gta 2 was coming out all my friends freaked about how great it was going to be and how it would be the greatest gta game, they were wrong. gta 3, same thing and I tried to tell them it would blow. I was right. gta 4 everyone said "this'll be the best one ever". I said it would suck, I was right. gta 5, somehow with full confidence everyone seemed so sure of themselves while I laughed at them, and I was wrong. Most people will assume they are right every time, even when their opinion is the minority and are much more willing to admit to assuming such on the internet. Sometimes they are right and sometimes they are wrong, that doesn't mean we think we're experts on everything. It's just human nature (sorry I felt like ranting).

[Docklabor]

The only real competition comes from witcher 3,but it's already been delayed.I'm actually happy about the delaying,which means there will be enough time to play each game thoroughly.

[Maeshone]

Really? Noone else in this thread is looking forward to Tales of Xillia 2 that also comes out this October? I mean, Tales of Xillia was pretty great, I could even go so far as to say it's my favourite game in the Tales of-series. 

 

Other than that, I was planning on picking up DAI and SoM in October, but finding out that Arkham Knight comes out just a week later, I think I'll have to delay on SoM... As a student, I can't justify getting that many games at release price, and Arkham Knight is way higher on my want list than SoM.

 

As for the competition, the games mentioned really aren't in direct contest with each other. Drive Club is PS4 exclusive, and free (at least for PS+), Aliens: Isolation is a horror game, which is even more niche than RPGs, and SoM looks.. decent, but I don't think it'll be a hit. The biggest competition is Arkham Knight, since both it and Inquisition are major profile titles, and RPG fans likely won't go for Arkham Knight.