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[ToasterSteve]

DA Origins was one of my favourite rpgs, but I just can't believe that Bioware can make a good game anymore after the disaster that was DA2 and ME3. Here are some of my concerns:

 

Bioware is still with the most cancerous company to the games industry.

They have said that they want the Skyrim and Call of Duty audience, so expect this game to be catered to casuals and dudebros. 

Preorder bonuses are still a thing and they'll most likely sell content cut from the base game on day 1. 

Constantly pushing LGBTand SJW agenda so that when they inevitably get bad reviews they can just call anyone who criticises their game a homophobe and a racist.

The dialogue wheel is still a thing.  

The "gameplay" trailer featured around 10 seconds of gameplay, are they trying to hide something?

Decisions from the previous games will barely mean anything http://www.escapistm...on-Age-2?page=1

 

There's just too many reasons to list, but anyway how do you think the game will turn out?

Will it be a massive disappointment or could it be half decent?

 

 

[kalasaurus]

Constantly pushing LGBTand SJW agenda so that when they inevitably get bad reviews they can just call anyone who criticises their game a homophobe and a racist.

 

I doubt that's the reason why Bioware includes same sex relationships in their games.

[Mockingword]

They have said that they want the Skyrim and Call of Duty audience, so expect this game to be catered to casuals and dudebros.

 

Constantly pushing LGBTand SJW agenda so that when they inevitably get bad reviews they can just call anyone who criticises their game a homophobe and a racist.

 

You can only have one of these.

 

Also, LOL. "LGBT Agenda"? Are you eighty?

 

BioWare isn't nearly as progressive as you or its staff like to think it is. It only seems that way because there's literally nothing to compare it to.

[ToasterSteve]

Apart from not sharing your doomsday prognosis, when did anyone from BioWare say they want Skyrim/CallOfDuty audience?

 

And I want a link for that, because I've never heard anything like that.

I know this is a bit old but still

http://www.nowgamer....s_audience.html

[Althix]

well DA2 is a.. well not good enough game on many aspects.

 

ME3 however i like, despite some strange scenes like aftermath of Thessia and priority Earth.

 

DAI can't be worse than DA2 i am sure of that. What concerns me is the fact that most characters in this new addition to DA setting in their middle ages, like 30-40. I just want to see how BW would display their age and experience.

For example Aria in ME3 DLC, i really like this character, she is mature unlike the most of ME party members. And i really hope that let say Cassandra in her... 40 years would not have a mindset of 18 years old girl.

[Zazzerka]

Is there a chance the track could bend?

[kbhai]

In your case, just wait till the release date.

If it gets good press and user reviews, buy it. Else, skip it.

[ToasterSteve]

well DA2 is a.. well not good enough game on many aspect.

 

ME3 however i like, despite some strange scenes like aftermath of Thessia and priority Earth.

 

DAI can't be worse than DA2 i am sure of that. What concerns me is the fact that most characters in this new addition to DA setting in their middle ages, like 30-40. I just want to see how BW would display their age and experience.

For example Aria in ME3 DLC, i really like this character, she is mature unlike the most of ME party members. And i really hope that let say Cassandra in her... 40 years would not have a mindset of 18 years old girl.

I know this is entirely subjective but it seems that the new companion lineup is very weak, the only characters who hold my interest are Varric and the Cassandra, but she still got the manjaw treatment

[phantomrachie]

DA Origins was one of my favourite rpgs, but I just can't believe that Bioware can make a good game anymore after the disaster that was DA2 and ME3. Here are some of my concerns:

 

Bioware is still with the most cancerous company to the games industry.

They have said that they want the Skyrim and Call of Duty audience, so expect this game to be catered to casuals and dudebros. 

Preorder bonuses are still a thing and they'll most likely sell content cut from the base game on day 1. 

Constantly pushing LGBTand SJW agenda so that when they inevitably get bad reviews they can just call anyone who criticises their game a homophobe and a racist.

The dialogue wheel is still a thing.  

The "gameplay" trailer featured around 10 seconds of gameplay, are they trying to hide something?

Decisions from the previous games will barely mean anything http://www.escapistm...on-Age-2?page=1

 

There's just too many reasons to list, but anyway how do you think the game will turn out?

Will it be a massive disappointment or could it be half decent?

 

I think it is very likely that this game will be good. I've already pre-ordered it. 

 

1. I assume this means EA? At least EA makes more than just one type of game, look at you Activision.
2. They said that they wanted to give it the open world feel of Skyrim not that the want the audience
3. I don't see anything wrong with pre-order bonuses and lots of companies do it, From Software did it for Dark Souls 2. They have also said that there will be no Day 1 Story DLC.
4. What? Pushing an agenda, its more like being inclusive, Name another company that allows you to have meaningful relations with characters of the same sex.
5. I like the dialogue wheel it suits a voiced protagonists and they have told us about some improvements they've made to it.

 

Seriously, it just looks like you are it picking and looking for things to be worried about. 

[DrBlingzle]

Constantly pushing LGBTand SJW agenda so that when they inevitably get bad reviews they can just call anyone who criticises their game a homophobe and a racist.

I'm sorry but what exactly do you mean by this? Giving Homosexuals the same amount of romance options as heterosexuals?

 

The "gameplay" trailer featured around 10 seconds of gameplay, are they trying to hide something?

You got a 30 minute demo of pure gameplay here. That not good enough for you?

 

The dialogue wheel is still a thing.

Well thats just a matter of opinion. Personally I like it and they have actually shown ideas of how to improve it. I'll get a link to the page showing them once I can find it.

[SofaJockey]

I see many reasons for optimism.

 

Took the time to get it right.

More open-world feel.

I like the dialogue wheel.

DA2 was not awful it just wasn't DAO and (really) over-used the few locations it had.
ME3 wasn't awful, it just rushed the ending to a fine game, and you all know about that...

Including different people, what's not to like.

 

It's not reasonable to judge it so poorly over 4 months out from release.

[Mockingword]

I'm sorry but what exactly do you mean by this? Giving Homosexuals the same amount of romance options as heterosexuals?

My bet is on "acknowledging that homosexuals play games at all".

[Enigmatick]

The "gameplay" trailer featured around 10 seconds of gameplay, are they trying to hide something?

That was just plain poor marketing, here's actual  gameplay:

 

[ToasterSteve]

I'm sorry but what exactly do you mean by this? Giving Homosexuals the same amount of romance options as heterosexuals?

You got a 30 minute demo of pure gameplay here. That not good enough for you?

Well thats just a matter of opinion. Personally I like it and they have actually shown ideas of how to improve it. I'll get a link to the page showing them once I can find it.

I mean that they put gay characters in their games just to fill some sort of quota. For instance the only redeeming quality about Cortez was his sexuality which made him a very boring character. 

[Mockingword]

I mean that they put gay characters in their games just to fill some sort of quota. For instance the only redeeming quality about Cortez was his sexuality which made him a very boring character. 

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

 

Yeah, a quota of ONE.

 

I can see how you would feel threatened. As the old saying goes: one gay spoils the harem.

[Enigmatick]

My bet is on "acknowledging that homosexuals play games at all".

Considering that he said that they would use it to deflect bad criticism I'm assuming he was rubbed the wrong way when EA used them to basically say that everyone who gave EA worst company of the year award was a homophobe. I don't blame him for being mad at that honestly.

[ToasterSteve]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

 

Yeah, a quota of ONE.

 

I can see how you would feel threatened. As the old saying goes: one gay spoils the harem.

I don't mind that he was gay, his character is just boring because the only interesting thing about him is the fact that he is gay.

I'm totally fine with bioware having gay characters its just that they can't seem to write them very well.

[phantomrachie]

I mean that they put gay characters in their games just to fill some sort of quota. For instance the only redeeming quality about Cortez was his sexuality which made him a very boring character. 

 

What are you talking about? Bioware have some sort of secret quota given to them by the Gay Agenda so they have to make some of their characters gay.

 

Bioware are one of the few developers that include any gay characters at all, let alone allow the protagonist to be gay or bi. If it is some sort of quota atleast they include characters that aren't straight white men.

 

And Steve was a great character, his raw emotion over the loss of his husband was one of the most believable things I've seen in a video game. The fact that he was gay was just part of his character rather than the his whole character made him incredibly believable  you could swap out 'dead husband' for 'dead wife' and he would be pretty much the same.

 

The friendship that my Femshep developed with him was just as strong as the one she had with some of the other characters who had been around for more than one game.

[Mockingword]

Considering that he said that they would use it to deflect bad criticism I'm assuming he was rubbed the wrong way when EA used them to basically say that everyone who gave EA worst company of the year award was a homophobe. I don't blame him for being mad at that honestly.

Well I don't claim to know what motivated people to vote for EA, but when you prioritise the ending of a video game over issues like, say, the employment and abuse of child workers by companies that base their manufacturing in third-world countries, I think it's a safe bet that business ethics are not your primary concern.

[Enigmatick]

I don't mind that he was gay, his character is just boring because the only interesting thing about him is the fact that he is gay.

I'm totally fine with bioware having gay characters its just that they can't seem to write them very well.

Dude if you're interested in the game, just watch the pre-alpha gameplay demo I posted, keep your ear to the ground for news, and when it comes out get some actually objective reviews because there's as many people with grudges as there are paid off review sites. You're not going to get truly reasonable responses from that guy you're conversing with.

[Mockingword]

I don't mind that he was gay, his character is just boring because the only interesting thing about him is the fact that he is gay.

I'm totally fine with bioware having gay characters its just that they can't seem to write them very well.

Tell me, person who believes in the existence of an "LGBT Agenda": what does a "well-written" gay look like?

[dutch_gamer]

DA Origins was one of my favourite rpgs, but I just can't believe that Bioware can make a good game anymore after the disaster that was DA2 and ME3. Here are some of my concerns:

 

1) Bioware is still with the most cancerous company to the games industry.

 

2) They have said that they want the Skyrim and Call of Duty audience, so expect this game to be catered to casuals and dudebros. 

 

3) Preorder bonuses are still a thing and they'll most likely sell content cut from the base game on day 1. 

 

4) Constantly pushing LGBTand SJW agenda so that when they inevitably get bad reviews they can just call anyone who criticises their game a homophobe and a racist.

 

5) The dialogue wheel is still a thing.

 

6) The "gameplay" trailer featured around 10 seconds of gameplay, are they trying to hide something?

 

Decisions from the previous games will barely mean anything http://www.escapistm...on-Age-2?page=1

 

There's just too many reasons to list, but anyway how do you think the game will turn out?

Will it be a massive disappointment or could it be half decent?

1) And that is just a bandwagon mentality. A lot of publishers do the same exact thing as EA but yet EA gets the most amount of flak for it and when Valve does the same thing they are applauded for it. And it should be about the game not the publisher. If a game is good, it is good, publisher be damned.

 

2) No, they said that those games are about progression as is the Dragon Age series so it would make sense that enough of that crowd may be interested in Dragon Age as well. It is about marketing the game to the actual market instead of just a small section of it. It has got nothing to do with dumbing down the game. In actuality Bioware is trying to make the game more tactical and slightly less forgiving, ie the change in potions.

 

3) Pre-order bonuses are still a thing with many games, not just EA games. And DLC has to be created at some point. You can say that it was just cut out of the actual content or realize it was created as an extra. You can't really expect them to only start creating DLC after release and never before.

 

4) Do you truly expect Bioware to be so childish to say that people who criticize do so solely because of certain romance content? I can't see Bioware even comment to reviews anyway. And what some fans may do can't be controlled by the developers and they shouldn't be held responsible for it.

 

5) You don't like the wheel, fine but some of us do. I see nothing wrong with it and it is likely here to stay. With VOs one can only have a certain amount of different responses before it becomes too expensive to add more. Maybe some are willing to have a mute PC again, I, for one am not.

 

6) What is there to hide? They have already shown us a gameplay demo at PAX last year. Do you honestly believe they are creating another game they know nobody will like so they try not to show anything? Sorry but Bioware has shown very clearly they know what was wrong with previous games and this is why several changes have been made. If you would actually do some research into that you would see this, instead of mainly focusing on old quotes from 2011 which are taken completely out of context, see your link about Call of Duty and Leliana.

 

I honestly believe that in the case of ME3 people were way too critical to the point it wasn't just critique but a direct personal attack on some developers. I liked the game and I even didn't mind the ending. DA2 simply needed more development time for the most part as far as I am concerned. I think today's gamers expect way too much and have become too vocal about minutia. I don't think any game can live up the hype set by gamers. The expectations for games in general are through the roof.

 

Anyway, if you are so worried about this game, just wait it out. Or heck, decide for yourself if the game is good enough. In my experience gamers who give their rating on metacritic are often full of it. It is usually either the highest rating or the lowest and even the smallest issue is made to be game breaking. I just avoid ratings nowadays until after I have actually played a game so as to not taint my experience. I do mostly buy franchise games though, so I know what to expect or I buy new games from developers I have played games from before. I have yet to be truly disappointed, considering I don't expect the world and understand the restrictions of development, in any field.

[Maraas]

I'm not gonna argue as we clearly like different things (DA2 was a fine game with a few flaws, ME3 is the best of the trilogy and brilliant top to bottom), just chiming in here: I can't think of any reason this game will turn out to be bad. The more I learn about it, the better it seems.

 

Huge and diverse environments (something they didn't make since BG), decisions unconstrained by the line of dialogue, playable races, mounts, customizable keeps, weaponsmithing... just off the top of my head. Yeah, I'm superexcited.