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If gold is so easy, go ahead and play plat all day and stop whining about it on the forums.

 

Platinum is not just a more difficult version of Gold. It's a totally different game mode, with different mechanics and gameplay. That's why I stay on Gold, despite that I feel it's too easy.



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I'm better than you at spear fishing :P


Pls son.. I murdered it today. Got a personal best Mangrove Snapper and about 25 other fish.
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Platinum is not just a more difficult version of Gold. It's a totally different game mode, with different mechanics and gameplay. That's why I stay on Gold, despite that I feel it's too easy.

 

The enemies get more intelligent all of a sudden? Their rate of fire increases? They dodge more? They're more accurate? What exactly is different about the mechanics and gameplay?

 

Throwing more bosses/elites at you with more HP, and having them doing more damage is a cheap way of increasing the difficulty.


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#79
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I don't trust pugs enough to do Gold yet, since most of my stuff isn't amazing just yet aside from maybe a few kits.

But I hate Platinum, so I can live with Gold.



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The enemies get more intelligent all of a sudden? Their rate of fire increases? They dodge more? They're more accurate? What exactly is different about the mechanics and gameplay?


Wave compositions, different health & shield gate mechanics, stagger thresholds, enemy movement speeds. That changes the gameplay quite a lot.
 

Throwing more bosses/elites at you with more HP, and having them doing more damage is a cheap way of increasing the difficulty.

 

I agree. But I would like there to be a couple more enemies at the same time, at least on larger maps.



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Dr. Tim Whatley

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Wave compositions, different health & shield gate mechanics, stagger thresholds, enemy movement speeds. That changes the gameplay quite a lot.

 

Wave compositions don't really mean much since the behaviour of the individual units don't change. The health/shield gate mechanics work the same way as far as I know, and the stagger thresholds don't mean much except on massive bosses who can't be staggered frequently anyway. Movement speed isn't exactly noticeable either. Not to me anyway.



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Wave compositions, different health & shield gate mechanics, stagger thresholds, enemy movement speeds. That changes the gameplay quite a lot.


But the same things happen every time you move up a difficulty. The only notable difference between Gold and Plat is that you're not just shooting one faction any more. Everything else is just scaled up accordingly.

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But the same things happen every time you move up a difficulty. The only notable difference between Gold and Plat is that you're not just shooting one faction any more. Everything else is just scaled up accordingly.

 

True, but the enemy composition is the big thing that matters most. Instead of four different factions you now have four quite similar factions, which don't make any sense thematically and have no guiding principles in their designs. And there's just too much boss spam, which requires you to focus way too much on armor DPS.

 

With health & shield gate mechanics I'm referring to player's gates, which in Platinum last only for 0.01 seconds. It's not just scaled up (or down, in this case). It means that you can be taken from shields to death in one frame - by a hunter. Combined with endless amounts of staggering, this forces constant RHA abuse and makes the game incredibly lag dependant.

 

Of course, all this has been discussed to death. My point still stands: Platinum isn't just harder Gold, it's different. And you know I'm not alone in thinking this way.


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If Gold is too easy, play Platinum.  I play Gold because Silver is too easy.  And if I've never had the "mooks die before I can combo them" problem while PUGging it on Gold.  Yesterday, I played with one PUG who was using a sniper Asari Valkyrie (with Mantis X), who scored just over 25k in an entire Gold game.  Play with that person, and you'll have plenty of time to combo whatever you want.



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True, but the enemy composition is the big thing that matters most. Instead of four different factions you now have four quite similar factions, which don't make any sense thematically and have no guiding principles in their designs. And there's just too much boss spam, which requires you to focus way too much on armor DPS.

 

With health & shield gate mechanics I'm referring to player's gates, which in Platinum last only for 0.01 seconds. It's not just scaled up (or down, in this case). It means that you can be taken from shields to death in one frame - by a hunter. Combined with endless amounts of staggering, this forces constant RHA abuse and makes the game incredibly lag dependant.

 

Of course, all this has been discussed to death. My point still stands: Platinum isn't just harder Gold, it's different. And you know I'm not alone in thinking this way.

 

Without meaning to cause offence, if you have trouble adjusting to platinum, then gold is definitely not too hard for you. I fail to see how that's possible.



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Another thing OP, the one gold game I did play with you, you felt the need to nuke at least 3 spawns. Why bother with that if it was so easy?


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Another thing OP, the one gold game I did play with you, you felt the need to nuke at least 3 spawns. Why bother with that if it was so easy?

 

Idk most likely its cuz i needed to speed the game up for some reason. Also its kind of a habit too. But if i remember correctly i didnt drop at all that game...actually i dropped only once and that was on extraction. I recorded that gameplay but never uploaded because you were in it. Not that i didnt want you in it but it was more so if you wanted to be in it. I meant to ask but ended up doing a whole nother video all together.



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I wouldn't say challenging as much as I would say tedious. My lvl 0 Avenger Gold solo wasn't challenging at all (anyone can do it) but it just took so much time to complete it because I gimped myself a lot. So no, a Quarian Soldier with the Revenant is not the least challenging on Gold but it is more tedious than using the Harrier and nuking spawns.

You can say the same about soloing platinum with the predator. If we use that logic - this game is absolutely devoid of challenge and it all comes down to the amount of time you're ready to throw at it.



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OP, why are you complaining?



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Without meaning to cause offence, if you have trouble adjusting to platinum, then gold is definitely not too hard for you. I fail to see how that's possible.

 

No offense taken.

 

Uh, did you mean too easy? Or did my brain just switch to power saving mode?

 

In my last 100 Gold games (> 50% PUGs) I've gotten mission failed three times, and in at least two of them I got screwed because of terribad lag. To me, that means Gold is too easy, the risk of failure is simply too low. It's still fun though, I just wish it was a bit harder.

 

I can adjust just fine to Platinum. But I don't want to, because the requirement for huge armor DPS means that I can't really use any quirky builds with quirky weapons. Senturian with Incisor does just fine on Gold, as does Salarian Engineer with Mantis. While you certainly can play Platinum with them, it'll be a painful experience and a 40-minute game. Is it more challenging? Sure. Is is fun? Nope.



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OP, why are you complaining?

 

I like the pheaston, its a really good gun you should try it on the Geth Engineer



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The crux of the whole issue is whether you're still having fun. If the game is too easy for you but you still have a laugh with your mates or a laugh at the expense of a couple of hapless pugs then your point is irrelevant.

 

However if the game is so easy that you're bored and everything feels like a grind then it might be time to move along.


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No offense taken. Uh, did you mean too easy? Or did my brain just switch to power saving mode? In my last 100 Gold games (> 50% PUGs) I've gotten mission failed three times, and in at least two of them I got screwed because of terribad lag. To me, that means Gold is too easy, the risk of failure is simply too low. It's still fun though, I just wish it was a bit harder. I can adjust just fine to Platinum. But I don't want to, because the requirement for huge armor DPS means that I can't really use any quirky builds with quirky weapons. Senturian with Incisor does just fine on Gold, as does Salarian Engineer with Mantis. While you certainly can play Platinum with them, it'll be a painful experience and a 40-minute game. Is it more challenging? Sure. Is is fun? Nope.


I did mean easy. My bad. Anyway, it's not all that serious. I don't like playing plat either because the BS levels go through the roof, and I've got too short a fuse for that.

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Pls son.. I murdered it today. Got a personal best Mangrove Snapper and about 25 other fish.


No pics?

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Idk most likely its cuz i needed to speed the game up for some reason. Also its kind of a habit too. But if i remember correctly i didnt drop at all that game...actually i dropped only once and that was on extraction. I recorded that gameplay but never uploaded because you were in it. Not that i didnt want you in it but it was more so if you wanted to be in it. I meant to ask but ended up doing a whole nother video all together.


Doesn't sound like they died too quickly then. I just can't reconcile finding something too easy when you run around nuking spawns, not that I have an issue with the nuking.

I wouldn't have had an issue with you uploading the vid btw, but thanks for considering my feelings.

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Doesn't sound like they died too quickly then. I just can't reconcile finding something too easy when you run around nuking spawns, not that I have an issue with the nuking.

I wouldn't have had an issue with you uploading the vid btw, but thanks for considering my feelings.

 

I dont always nuke spawns in Gold sometimes i just play it straight through depending on how im feeling. In platinum im nuking spawns all day everyday



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Everything dies too fast. I like to weaken my prey and cause collateral harm over a period of time. How can i do that when the mooks are dead before i can complete the combo? I throw a warp and the enemies die before the recharge speed is even completed. WTF?? 

 

The waves end too fast. Im immersed in so much fun then all of the sudden the wave is over and im all like "That's it?"

 

Its simply just not enough enemies

 

And that is all

 

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You lack imagination.



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Easy. Go Platinum. Or challenge yourself not to use any consumables so you can save them :)

 

Also, OMGEPEENTHREAD!! I FEEL SO THREATENED ABOUT IT!!!!

 

Insecureteens ftw.



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A "Gold is too easy" topic on its fourth page!!!

This is what I find intriguing about forums... and I just contributed to it...lolLOL!!!



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Jesus Christ BSN... How low have you fallen.

OP, gold is too easy? **** off and go playing another game.
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