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[Gavindale]

I have always been a fan and advocate for Neverwinter Nights. It ranks up there with the best RPGs in my book. I enjoyed playing NWN, beat it once and will go back again. My question is this: I heard that NWN2 has a ton of bugs, and glitches, and crashes from time to time. Now, I bought NWN2 but haven't gotten around to playing it yet - I was reading reviews on it, and people were bashing NWN2 left and right - complaints and ranting about how it's not worth the money. I wouldn't know, so here I am, asking everyone out there if these reviews are accurate in any way, shape, or form. Again, I’m not here to put down the game – I have yet to play it – I just wanted people’s opinion on this.

[kevL]

it's a matter of tolerance, and persistence ... and luck

 

some few play it with no problems at all; others enjoy the .. challenge.

 

 

It's not the same game as NwN, although they share very similar rulesets,

[kamal_]

Also, reviews tend to be when the game was released. NWN2 received a number of patches. It's not perfect, but it's in a game niche with nwn1 and not too much else.

[Tchos]

I love the game, and it does not crash on my system.  There was originally stuttering/poor frame rate, but that was fixed for me by Skywing's Client Extension.  There are rare bugs that I experience, such as glitches on area transitions when controlling companions (that I suspect can be traced to a certain area transition script), and a rare "rubber-banding" effect where a character may return to its original position after moving to a new one (generally solved by using click-to-move).

 

The camera can be tricky, but Exploration Mode is the best for that.

 

Many of the initial reviews were coloured by people's hatred toward Atari for their canceling of the premium module program for NWN1 (and all further support for it) which was seen as being done to promote their newer game, NWN2.  Atari didn't treat NWN2 any better than NWN1, for the record.

 

At any rate, NWN2 offers many things that NWN1 does not, which I consider to be of paramount importance in a game like this.

[Arkalezth]

The game was released in 2006. The bugs that remain are mostly minor stuff that people who are not knowledgeable about the rules may not even notice. Seriously, I've never experienced all those horrible, huge bugs that I always hear about, and I've been playing for 5-6 years.

 

As for being worth the money, which isn't that much nowadays, if those people could point me to another game (besides NWN1) with half the amount of modules, PWs and other unofficial content, I'd be very interested. You can literally play for years without ever replaying the same story.

 

If you like NWN1 and RPGs in general, chances are that you'll like NWN2 as well.

[Dann-J]

What they said. If you patch it right up to v1.23, you shouldn't have too many problems.

 

You may encounter some graphics glitches with newer graphics cards though. The more recent nVidia cards are notorious for it - even though the game was originally designed to run best on them. The glitches tend to be nothing game-breaking though.

[Elrith Galadon]

I've been playing these games since 2000, and I started off with the much-appraised Icewind Dale and Baldur's Gate. I personally didn't like NWN's OC - too long and too blah - and got bored of Shadows of Undrentide quickly, but I loved Hordes of the Underdark. 

 

NWN2 is a good sequel to NWN1, in that sense. The OC is still blah for me, but MoTB redeemed the series. There are some excellent modules out there as well, and the graphics are definitely up a notch from NWN1. There are NWN1 mods that I wish were re-laid to NWN2 - let's admit it, there are about twice the number of mods for NWN1 than NWN2 - but I still think it was a good investment. I rarely buy games, and I regret buying Skyrim, but NWN2 I don't regret at all. (I'm not going to touch SoZ. Everytime I see Khelgar in my keep, I keep wanting to yell "it's my keep"...)

 

In terms of the factors that make the game:

 

Spells: 9/10. I kinda miss insta-kill of Power Word:Kill in BG/IWD, but actually seeing Mordenkainen's Sword beating on a troll really redeems itself. And the sheer number is a joy to play with. 

Story: OC was blah, but MoTB saved the day. Overall: 7.5/10

System: The patching is a nightmare, I won't lie about that. They're big, tedious, and often the patcher bugs up. But patching is well worth the trouble. 

Customisability: What's the point of playing on a PC if you can't customise? In this regard, I give this game 10/10. After you get bored, you can give your epic OC some whopping sword that can probably kill Cyric, and you're set to be the epic demi-god you wanted to be. (Note: I do understand that some people like the challenge of level 1 OC trying to kill a dragon. I'm an awful player, and I get frustrated with these challenges.) 

Custom contents: Kaedrin's pack really give extra options for your character. Add Cyphre's and you can be... well, your companions become epic on multiple levels as well, depending on how custom you modded the game. It's nice that with some patience, you can add about a dozen more prestige classes that you see in books. And I don't think I've played the same storyline twice, save MoTB and OC, but that was just a personal preference. 

 

Would I recommend this game? That would depend... I probably won't recommend this game to a D&D/FR newbie, because I've noticed that it's a little hard to understand some of the lingo (I accidentally started a debate on alignments a few weeks ago, and the deities' names do get thrown around a little). I won't recommend this game to someone who has never played a PC RPG either. But for someone who liked NWN1... I'd most certainly recommend it. Some of the lore stuff are a little iffy, but other than that, you really do get the feel of what it's like to live in Faerun. At least for me, anyway. 

 

Oh, and the best part? IWD and BG were both re-made on this game engine, available for free. Now if only someone would re-make the NWN1 mods... 

[rjshae]

For the current price, I think it is well worth the money. Playing through the original campaign again with the latest patch version, there were no significant bugs; just the rare camera weirdness during cut scenes and some walkpathing idiocy. But you also see that in more recent games. Adding in some of the recommended enhancement mods only improves the experience.

[Arkalezth]

System: The patching is a nightmare, I won't lie about that. They're big, tedious, and often the patcher bugs up. But patching is well worth the trouble.

What version of the game do you have? Pretty sure all the digital download ones install every patch automatically.

[Psionic-Entity]

Saying I've gotten my money's worth out of it would be an understatement, and that was buying it and all of the expansions at launch.

 

For starters, the campaigns are alright. They aren't "true dnd" experiences like the campaigns in the original games for a whole host of reasons, but they were reasonably well-done and worth your time if you enjoy that kind of thing. MOTB was by far the best, at least in my opinion, but very epic-level.

 

Where it really gets good is the custom content. People have been making stuff for eight years and you'd be hard pressed to try all of it. There are some great campaigns out there, and plenty of good class and content mods.

 

If multiplayer is your thing, there are still a handful of active, DMed servers for roleplaying and one or two that are set for a more single-player experience. It's not like it used to be but the community that still plays tends to consist of very dedicated players with a ton of experience. The best part is that in their last patch, Obsidian released an autodownload system. While gamespy for nwn2 is now down it's still possible to play online by using skywing's client extension for a server list or by using direct connect.

 

In all my years of gaming there are only one other game purchase I'd say I got as much out of as nwn2, and that was when I blew all my ten year old self's allowance money on the original starcraft.

[Elrith Galadon]

What version of the game do you have? Pretty sure all the digital download ones install every patch automatically.

 

I have the Gold Edition. The patcher is a nightmare, and it just so happens that unless you patch it JUST right, the PC crashes right as you leave Duncan's inn. Go figure.

[Luminus]

Just get it from GoG.com. You get everything and it's fully patched. http://www.gog.com/g...ghts_2_complete

It's fairly cheap too, when you consider that with $20 you get:

The original game
Two expansions
One DLC (Mysteries of Westgate)
The Toolset
Ability to play online on different worlds or with friends (You need Skywind's Client Extension for it to work though)
Ability to play all the user fanmade campaigns
Plus ton of modability.

Don't like the campaigns? Join a roleplaying server online that has ton of custom stuff and enjoy.

I haven't even finished the main campaigns (except Storm of Zehir) and I've been playing online for a few years now and not stopping.