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Ryuzetsu

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As other threads have pointed out in the past, Mass Effect seems to be popping up more and more in things not directly related to it. First it was tiny blurbs in shows (30 Rock before ME3 release) and other media. Then the soundtrack began to be pushed out, most recently the Homeland season finally teaser, and bits are scattered throughout the History channel World Wars mini series, some from even ME2. While I love the fact Mass Effect is becoming more and more impactful there is part of me that worries that ME will become to mainstream.
I love the world of Mass Effect, it has impacted my life in ways I never thought a video game ever could, and I have been gaming since the original Atari at age 5. But something that always seems to happen with good things, they become played out and over used. I love this community and the inside nature of the things we have in common through our shared experience. Do you worry about this? Where have you seen or heard Mass Effect outside the game and do you think this may actually bode ill for our favorite series?

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"there is part of me that worries that ME will become to mainstream."

 

They want it to be today's Star Wars.

 

Let's just hope they do their best to keep it from the pitfalls Star Wars experienced.



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If I can get more of that zeitgeist out of popular culture like what I got in the World Wars series, I'm all for it. I will say that I definitely feel that whoever worked on the production for the World Wars had to of been a Mass Effect fan. The final episode that aired today had them placed in key spots that just worked. The song that plays as the galactic fleet pours out of the Sol Relay went on during the D-Day invasion, while the song that plays when Shepard is forced to make his decision regarding David Archer played at the time that Truman had to contemplate whether or not to use the atomic bombs. It seems to me that this wasn't a simple borrowing of what amounts to fantastic music, but rather strategically placing, at least these bits, into parts that correlated with how they came about in the actual series.

 

Personally, as a former student of history, I can appreciate the extent to which this zeitgeist seeps into things like this. I've always said that one of those decisions I'm glad I never had to make was the very decision that Truman was forced into when Japan refused the Potsdam Declaration. Do we allow thousands of innocent people to perish, all in an attempt to save millions, or do we allow those millions to perish because the alternative methods are simply too extreme? A similar decision has to be made in Overlord and I remember sitting with the controller in my hand for a good hour when I first played it in 2010, simply contemplating what I should do. It's this type of stuff that demonstrates that video games have long since escaped the shackles of being a toy into a realm in which they can easily reflect the spirit of the human condition.


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Don't think such games becoming main stream would really be a bad thing, it shows that people's minds are more accepting of things and works of fiction.

Its the fridge groups people have to worry about when something becomes main stream and their influnce and money. If you know what I mean.



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"there is part of me that worries that ME will become to mainstream."

 

They want it to be today's Star Wars.

 

Let's just hope they do their best to keep it from the pitfalls Star Wars experienced.

I wouldn't worry about that.

 

They seem to have found their own pits to fall into  :D


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Mass Effect already is mainstream.

 

Every game in the series was triple A title that millions of people purchased/played. Also contrary to Hipster claims, mainstream does not necessarily mean bad.


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I wouldn't worry about that.

 

They seem to have found their own pits to fall into  :D

 

Right on cue.


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Mass Effect already is mainstream.
 
Every game in the series was triple A title that millions of people purchased/played. Also contrary to Hipster claims, mainstream does not necessarily mean bad.


I get your point about it being AAA and well known in the gaming and entertainment communities, but what I worry about is the larger spread. My worry is that someday ME would become so well known that I can envision soccer moms getting loaded up at a nearby Applebee's and giggling about emergency induction ports. Or other cringe inducing events that I think diminish the impact of the work.

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If I can get more of that zeitgeist out of popular culture like what I got in the World Wars series, I'm all for it. I will say that I definitely feel that whoever worked on the production for the World Wars had to of been a Mass Effect fan. The final episode that aired today had them placed in key spots that just worked. The song that plays as the galactic fleet pours out of the Sol Relay went on during the D-Day invasion, while the song that plays when Shepard is forced to make his decision regarding David Archer played at the time that Truman had to contemplate whether or not to use the atomic bombs. It seems to me that this wasn't a simple borrowing of what amounts to fantastic music, but rather strategically placing, at least these bits, into parts that correlated with how they came about in the actual series.

Personally, as a former student of history, I can appreciate the extent to which this zeitgeist seeps into things like this. I've always said that one of those decisions I'm glad I never had to make was the very decision that Truman was forced into when Japan refused the Potsdam Declaration. Do we allow thousands of innocent people to perish, all in an attempt to save millions, or do we allow those millions to perish because the alternative methods are simply too extreme? A similar decision has to be made in Overlord and I remember sitting with the controller in my hand for a good hour when I first played it in 2010, simply contemplating what I should do. It's this type of stuff that demonstrates that video games have long since escaped the shackles of being a toy into a realm in which they can easily reflect the spirit of the human condition.


Okay, I watched those episodes the other night and had the volume low because my girlfriend was asleep. I swore I heard mass effect music too, but when I turned up the volume a little I thought the scores just sounded similar - inspired, or heavily edited. Did they actually use the soundtrack? I am skeptical.

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Okay, I watched those episodes the other night and had the volume low because my girlfriend was asleep. I swore I heard mass effect music too, but when I turned up the volume a little I thought the scores just sounded similar - inspired, or heavily edited. Did they actually use the soundtrack? I am skeptical.

 

Not all of the music in the documentary was from the Mass Effect series, but they did use at least two tracks. There is a thread in the general forum about The Fleets Arrive being used, with a link to the full documentary. I didn't watch the whole thing but while skipping around I also heard music from the Overlord DLC. While discussing the effects of the atomic bombings they used the sad-sounding track that plays when you rescue David Archer.



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There are several pieces woven here and there. In the first episode near the very beginning (during a WWI charge scene) that has the part of the ME2 sound track where Shepard is fleeing the collector base and is about to make the "leap". There is a scene in the second episode, about the middle, where an older Churchill is contemplating the coming war and the suite from the Catalyst decision plays. While they rarely use whole tracks and splice it into other music, the series is heavily laced with the music. I did not catch the Truman/Overlord part, it doesn't shock me that it was used given the gravity of both decisions. Further proof that the music production people are definitely fans.

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I get your point about it being AAA and well known in the gaming and entertainment communities, but what I worry about is the larger spread. My worry is that someday ME would become so well known that I can envision soccer moms getting loaded up at a nearby Applebee's and giggling about emergency induction ports. Or other cringe inducing events that I think diminish the impact of the work.

 

I think what it comes down to is we are all growing up.  We.. as in the kids who grew up playing video games and are now adults contributing to society.  While I don't see myself being a soccer mom in the future, I don't doubt that I'll still be talking about the latest game with my buddies at 40 as I do now at 24. 

 

I don't see how that is cringe inducing.. unless you want to hold tight to the notion that video games can only be played from x-x ages and by x demographic.  Or keep a great work secret because, somehow, too many people liking it renders it ****.  I don't get it.