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[TurretSyndrome]

To be fair, Bioware has always allowed players to skip sex scenes. 

 

Right, which brings us back to my initial point. All I'm saying is that if I know, if Bioware knows, that I am just going to skip that end content of that romance, there is no point in actually pursuing that particular romance. That's why I see no need to actually include character-specific achievements like that, which is what they did in DA 2 and probably for that exact reason.

 

Really? Why then would you equate experiencing a little gay videogame content to trying to eat lunch whilst looking at a rotting corpse? In any case, seeing as no Dragon Age game to date has actually shown the act of lovemaking, there's really no need for you to fret the discomfort that comes from playing a videogame quite so vigorously.

 

Because what I'm referring to was not the "little gay content" where the PC tells the guy how he loves him and kisses him. I was referring to the sex part. Of course, DA never showed the nude version of the act but it is what it is. Also, if you think I should not fret over such content, then you can do the same about not having character-specific romance achievements. It goes both ways.

 

 

So you're comfortable RPing as a psychopath but can't RP as a woman?

 

Yes, because unlike playing as a person of the other gender, being a total jackass in the game amuses me. I can take such content lightly, which I always do, but not gender and sexualities. 

[TurretSyndrome]

When have we seen anyone "have sex" in a BioWare game?

 

Implications, fade to black, and some underwear grinding sure but sex? When you want to make a argument in the future cut back on the hyperbole and lies.

 

The underwear content is not part of the sex scene? Well colour me surprised.

[Ryzaki]

...You can just hit the esc or spacebar key. It's not that hard. It's what I do when I chose the DR.

[daveliam]

Right, which brings us back to my initial point. All I'm saying is that if I know, if Bioware knows, that I am just going to skip that end content of that romance, there is no point in actually pursuing that particular romance. That's why I see no need to actually include character-specific achievements like that, which is what they did in DA 2 and probably for that exact reason.

 

Because what I'm referring to was not the "little gay content" where the PC tells the guy how he loves him and kisses him. I was referring to the sex part. Of course, DA never showed the nude version of the act but it is what it is. Also, if you think I should not fret over such content, then you can do the same about not having character-specific romance achievements. It goes both ways.

 

Yes, because unlike playing as a person of the other gender, being a total jackass in the game amuses me. I can take such content lightly, which I always do, but not gender and sexualities. 

 

You have a pretty self-centered view on this issue, to be honest.  So because you are not comfortable with male-on-male sex scenes, Bioware should not link achievements to those romances?  Really?  You are welcome to have your own views on sexuality, but I just want you to think about the fact that you seem to thinking that your opinion is more commonplace, but no one has agreed with you on this aspect of your argument so far.  Perhaps it's not as common to have such a visceral negative reaction to s/s romance scenes. 

[AlanC9]

Yes, because unlike playing as a person of the other gender, being a total jackass in the game amuses me. I can take such content lightly, which I always do, but not gender and sexualities.

Fine. I'm not in the business of telling people how to RP. Though it's a little bizarre, it's not my problem.

However, I can easily RP a woman but prefer not to RP psychopaths. Should I be asking for Bio to remove the evil achievements? If not, why not? What's special about your limitation?

Edit: or are you saying that all achievements that any player finds hard to complete for any reason should be removed?

[Ryzaki]

Dude, you're railing against content that doesn't exist.

 

Yeah the most that was had on the m/m front was MShep and Kaidan rolling around in boxer shorts. That's hardly smut.

[AlanC9]

Ya think?

[TurretSyndrome]

You have a pretty self-centered view on this issue, to be honest.  So because you are not comfortable with male-on-male sex scenes, Bioware should not link achievements to those romances?  Really?  You are welcome to have your own views on sexuality, but I just want you to think about the fact that you seem to thinking that your opinion is more commonplace, but no one has agreed with you on this aspect of your argument so far.  Perhaps it's not as common to have such a visceral negative reaction to s/s romance scenes. 

 

I don't get it. Can't you people take it for what it is, an opinion? Whatever I feel or you feel, it'll be an opinion, spoken from our own perspectives. And it's not just because I feel uncomfortable having to watch the scenes, but also because I believe there are people like me on the other end, people who feel the same kind of discomfort watching two heteros have sex for example. So would you say the same if I were gay and say that I prefer if they not create achievements linked to specifically hetero romances because I can't bear to sit through them just so I can get the 100% completion?

 

Also to all the others that keep going on about my problem with romance scenes since they are skippable, read this:

 

Right, which brings us back to my initial point. All I'm saying is that if I know, if Bioware knows, that I am just going to skip that end content of that romance, there is no point in actually pursuing that particular romance. That's why I see no need to actually include character-specific achievements like that, which is what they did in DA 2 and probably for that exact reason.

 

I'm done here.

[Ryzaki]

So would you say the same if I were gay and say that I prefer if they not create achievements linked to specifically hetero romances because I can't bear to sit through them just so I can get the 100% completion?

 

I would. How is it the game's fault you feel the need to get every single achievement even if it's something you don't want to do? And on top of that you're either lazy or too entitled to simply hit the esc key to ignore the scene?

 

Also you might skip the scene that doesn't mean everyone does. So why on earth would BW care enough to take a scene out if a skippable scene is skipped by a portion of the player base? They made it skippable. They surely realized that would be a result.

[daveliam]

. So would you say the same if I were gay and say that I prefer if they not create achievements linked to specifically hetero romances because I can't bear to sit through them just so I can get the 100% completion?

 

Yes, I absolutely would say the same thing to you about that.  Because that's the exact situation that I was in DA: O and I never once thought that the issue was on Bioware's end.  I recognized that it's on my end and just sucked it up.

 

I do agree with this, Dragon Age has had romance achievements but specifically not difficulty achievements. IMO, I'd much rather trade the former for the latter. Give DAI an achievement for beating the game on Hard or Nightmare difficulty and if you have to have a romance achievement, it should be like the paramour achievement in Mass Effect, where it indicates that the player had A romance, not specifically achievements for romances with each character. 

 

There are difficulty based achievements in DA: O.  It's still the reason that I don't have 100% completion because of that damned Harvester on Nightmare achievement.

[daveliam]

Get it done. Very much worth it, if you plan on playing again. The price you can sell Reaper's Cudgel for is ridiculous.

 

I've tried about two dozen times on four different characters.  I'll eventually get it, but it's definitely my arch-enemy.....!

[Ryzaki]

I've tried about two dozen times on four different characters.  I'll eventually get it, but it's definitely my arch-enemy.....!

 

Heh I'll never get a hard/nightmare trophy I patted myself on the back when I did ME3 in Normal mode (started out in Casual XD). Only way I'm doing DA2 on Hard/NM is with liberal mods so it plays like normal mode and at that point there's no point XD.

[The Spirit of Dance]

Personally, I don't care one way or the other. I'm still going to do all the romances and everything else this game has to offer if I enjoy it as much as Origins.

[Todd23]

I just realized the downside to not having romance specific trophies is that we won't find out every single companion li as soon as the trophy list is released.

[JadePrince]

I just realized the downside to not having romance specific trophies is that we won't find out every single companion li as soon as the trophy list is released.

 

HOPEFULLY Bioware will spoil us for that information ahead of time anyway. *crosses fingers*

[AlanC9]

I just realized the downside to not having romance specific trophies is that we won't find out every single companion li as soon as the trophy list is released.

Yeah, but in a week it'll be on the wiki.

[BloodyTalon]

Hopefully they go fully back to origins and make one for each Li has oppose to the DA 2s way of doing it, more achivements the better!

[AlanC9]

I do agree with this, Dragon Age has had romance achievements but specifically not difficulty achievements. IMO, I'd much rather trade the former for the latter. Give DAI an achievement for beating the game on Hard or Nightmare difficulty and if you have to have a romance achievement, it should be like the paramour achievement in Mass Effect, where it indicates that the player had A romance, not specifically achievements for romances with each character.

Again, how come it's OK to have achievements for different choices in other areas besides romances?