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Aria... did she go undercover as Alena?


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Emphyr

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The Fight Wrex told us about  ... fighting Alena did HE fight with Aria?

 

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I Think it happened...



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It crossed my mind too. There is no dialogue that confirms it ingame but I haven't read the comics, there might be something there.



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It was never officially confirmed but Aria's dialogue where she states that she had commando training, spent time as a mercenary, used different names in the past, and had angered Krogan before Patriarch all imply that Aria is Aleena. So does her dialogue where in talking about her past, she says that sometimes she'd rather disappear than be forced to kill someone.



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And don't forget the "Better luck next time" line Aria says in ME2 (I think she says that when you ask her about her past but you don't have her trust yet), that is the same Wrex told you that Aleena said when she escaped from the station.


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Believe it or not, people, but there are more strong, powerful Asari besides Aria.

 

That being said, it's not impossible that she is Aleena.

 

Now I wish I could've taken Wrex to Omega, both in ME2 aswell as in ME3


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Believe it or not, people, but there are more strong, powerful Asari besides Aria.

 

That being said, it's not impossible that she is Aleena.

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Also, while there are some things in her dialouge pointing in that direction (and i think it was also inteded for her to be Aleena), there is one big counterpoint:

As per Wrex's story, Aleena always took care to not harm civilians (hence her and Wrex fighting on this old merc -station).

Aria doesn't seem to care for civilians or other people at all.

It is possible that she only became this way after ariving on Omega, but I doubt so.

 

I also somewhat dislike the implications that in the ME universe indeed everyone knows everyone else...



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I also somewhat dislike the implications that in the ME universe indeed everyone knows everyone else...

 

This. That is more unlikely than me knowing you in real life.

 

(which would, btw, be hilarious if it were so)


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Patrick Weekes confirmed it: here.

 

Not like it really needed confirming since ME2 pretty much hits you over the head with it, especially with Aria's "Better luck next time" line that drives the point home.



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Patrick Weekes confirmed it: here.

Not like it really needed confirming since ME2 pretty much hits you over the head with it, especially with Aria's "Better luck next time" line that drives the point home.


Which made me go, I got too tell Wrex like now.

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Believe it or not, people, but there are more strong, powerful Asari besides Aria.

 

That being said, it's not impossible that she is Aleena.

 

Now I wish I could've taken Wrex to Omega, both in ME2 aswell as in ME3

 

There are too many things in Aria's dialogue that link back to Aleena for them not to be the same person.

 

While it isn't stated outright, I think the writers were trying to heavily imply that they were the same person. As noted by skuid, they even have Aria utter Aleena's last words to Wrex. "Better luck next time."

 

EDIT: N/M...missed that Weekes officially confirmed it.



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As far as subtle clues in Mass Effect's story go...this wasn't subtle at all. She is clearly Aleena.

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I also somewhat dislike the implications that in the ME universe indeed everyone knows everyone else...

 

Well given that it seems (thanks to the comics) that Cerberus were involved in everything, I think it is safe to assume the galaxy comprises of about 50 people.



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I also somewhat dislike the implications that in the ME universe indeed everyone knows everyone else...

 

I'm in the same boat.

 

As much as I enjoyed Matriarch Aethyta and her banter with Liara in ME3, I would have preferred that the two were not related. For whatever reason fans were speculating that she might be Liara's parent after ME2 and Bioware decided to run with it, and introduced it as fan service in LotSB. While that obviously pleased some people, I think it also served to make the universe seem smaller. And thats not a good thing, IMO.


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Well given that it seems (thanks to the comics) that Cerberus were involved in everything, I think it is safe to assume the galaxy comprises of about 50 people.


At this point, I consider those comics non-canon. They are terrible and lore-butchering. Deception is non-canon for exactly that reason.
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As much as I don't care for some of the comics, like most of the books (except Deception) they are part of the official canon. Events and characters from them carry over into the games. ME2 and LotSB have quite a few references to events and characters from the Redemption comic, for example.

 

Of the books and comics and anime I think the only source outside the games that is now officially not canon is Deception. I say that only because Bioware and the publisher apologized for it and initially hinted at a rewrite, before washing their hands of it. I think its now kind of like the Star Wars Holiday Special, with everyone pretending it no longer exists. Also, there is no mention of events from that book in the game as far I remember.



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I was specifically referring to the Foundation comics. I have no problem with the rest.

Edit: well, most of the rest

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At this point, I consider those comics non-canon. They are terrible and lore-butchering. Deception is non-canon for exactly that reason.

 

No. Its non-canon because of the insanity of the many many many lore breaks.

 

Honestly dont holding my breath that the re-issue is coming at this point.



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I consider them the same.

 

Also, when it comes to the MEU feeling small, I understand that and I often feel that as well. I do remind myself though that the MEU space IS (relatively) small. It's the Citadel, a few homewords, some other planets that range from small colonies to 1+ city planet (Illium). They don't expand much beyond that because unexplored space seems to terrify them (thanks Rachni!). In all the planets and stars of the Milky Way, the Citadel species have BARELY scratched the surface, content on their false feeling of control over the territory they currently have.

 

So in that way, with much of the important traffic happening on the Citadel and Omega, I can understand some characters running into each other, especially if they're in specialized fields. Sort of.



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I consider them the same.

 

Also, when it comes to the MEU feeling small, I understand that and I often feel that as well. I do remind myself though that the MEU space IS (relatively) small. It's the Citadel, a few homewords, some other planets that range from small colonies to 1+ city planet (Illium). They don't expand much beyond that because unexplored space seems to terrify them (thanks Rachni!). In all the planets and stars of the Milky Way, the Citadel species have BARELY scratched the surface, content on their false feeling of control over the territory they currently have.

 

So in that way, with much of the important traffic happening on the Citadel and Omega, I can understand some characters running into each other, especially if they're in specialized fields. Sort of.

 

Do you live in a City?

 

If yes, how many people do you actually know in there?



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Do you live in a City?

 

If yes, how many people do you actually know in there?

 

I live in a city and have spent half my life in the rural.

 

I know dozens of people here. I know most of them as fellow students. I've known others as relating to the restaurant scene I worked in for a short while.

 

Wrex is a merc. He'll know other mercs. He'll know Terminus more than Thessia and the Citadel. Him knowing both Saren and Aria was a stretch to me, but it helped that the writers just had him briefly spot Saren on a job instead of know him personally.

 

I haven't seen all Mass Effect media (so not talking Deception or whatever), but so far it is just the Foundation comics that stretch things too far, unless Mac has an ace up his sleeve about it (lol).



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I live in a city and have spent half my life in the rural.

 

I know dozens of people here. I know most of them as fellow students. I've known others as relating to the restaurant scene I worked in for a short while.

 

Wrex is a merc. He'll know other mercs. He'll know Terminus more than Thessia and the Citadel. Him knowing both Saren and Aria was a stretch to me, but it helped that the writers just had him briefly spot Saren on a job instead of know him personally.

 

I haven't seen all Mass Effect media (so not talking Deception or whatever), but so far it is just the Foundation comics that stretch things too far, unless Mac has an ace up his sleeve about it (lol).

 

It's not impossible that they know each other, but damn it is unlikely.

 

Not that it really matters though, it's not like it is game breaking.



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I once ran into a biology teacher I had in High School by chance in Waikiki. I'm from the East Coast of the United States originally and was stationed in Hawaii at the time while in the military. He was on vacation with his family. Given that I ran into someone I knew from High School 5,000 miles away or so from that school, I know that sometimes the world can seem a small place. 

 

So I don't have too much of a problem with a chance encounter here or there for Shepard, or another Mass Effect protagonist. I just don't want there to be too many of them. One is fine. Two is okay. Once you get beyond that you start straining suspension of disbelief IMO, and make the universe feel smaller than it should.



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As far as my personal consideration of canon, everything is canon unless two points contradict each other, in which case I go with whatever I like more. Because the lore is kind of a mess. I do tend to disregard most of Citadel on general principle, however.

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While I have seen no proof that Aria is Aleena, listening to Wrex's story and through the interactions you have with Aria, I do believe Aria is Aleena. When she said, if you talk to her long enough, "better luck next time" I think Shepard should have gotten this quiet moment of realization and slowly leaned back and say "Huh... wondered what happened to you." or when leaving the encounter say something like "Next time you get into a fight with a Krogan bounty hunter on a space station, try to avoid the power generators. Would hate for Omega to blow up too." then just walk off.