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Débuté par The Ascendant , mai 30 2014 11:18

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#126
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Posté 02 juin 2014 - 04:47

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This. This right here is EXACTLY what BioWare specifically said was NOT the case. BioWare, as I've now had to repeat several times, have gone to great lengths to ensure us that ANY playthrough is "valid" and that there is NO "official canon". BioWare does however, for obvious reasons, have to establish some sort of background for their future content and material, but what they chose to go with IS IN NO WAY OR FORM the official canon. For all we know, maybe in DA4 they choose to go with the default backgrounds being a Dwarf Warrior Warden, Rogue Hawke and Qunari Mage Inquisitor. And it STILL wouldn't be the official canon, since there exists none.

 

Why would they change those choices in the future? I think they're trying to establish their in-house story as much as give new players a default.

 

Still though, this just seems to be a debate where you're happier juggling a multiverse idea. I'm not personally. I have a bad enough time with multiverse stories in Star Trek. B)


#127
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Posté 02 juin 2014 - 04:49

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That's semantics. Whatever is established in game or book that over rides your choice in canon. Canon is anything that applies outside of the experiences of a single player or group (in the case of table RPGs).

Actually they stated that what happens in the books is different if your playthrough has different choices than the default. i.e. If Alistair isn't king then he joins Varric and Isabela as a Grey Warden (or recovering drunk). If Shale wasn't recruited then Asunder happened without Shale. The books are what would happen if the default cannon is followed, what actually happens in the universe you import is determined by the choices you import. The books are simply a guide that can be modified by our choices.


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Posté 02 juin 2014 - 04:50

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Actually they stated that what happens in the books is different if your playthrough has different choices than the default. i.e. If Alistair isn't king then he joins Varric and Isabela as a Grey Warden (or recovering drunk). If Shale wasn't recruited then Asunder happened without Shale. The books are what would happen if the default cannon is followed, what actually happens in the universe you import is determined by the choices you import. The books are simply a guide that can be modified by our choices.

 

This works well if you just stick to the games. You can go about your merry way in your own sandbox, that way.

 

Not so much if you're interested in all things Dragon Age (side material).


#129
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Posté 02 juin 2014 - 05:15

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Why would they change those choices in the future? I think they're trying to establish their in-house story as much as give new players a default.

 

Still though, this just seems to be a debate where you're happier juggling a multiverse idea. I'm not personally. I have a bad enough time with multiverse stories in Star Trek. B)

The whole idea is that there is NOT a multiverse. There is only YOUR universe. Any- and everything else is entirely irrelevant to your game's story.


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Posté 02 juin 2014 - 05:20

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The whole idea is that there is NOT a multiverse. There is only YOUR universe. Any- and everything else is entirely irrelevant to your game's story.

 

You keep focusing on the games. I'm well aware that it's a choice based medium.

 

There is either a canon or a "mutliverse", the moment you get interested beyond the games. You have a choice to either rationalize it as some kind of alternate setting. Or throw your hands in the air and say there is a canon. I'm fine doing the latter. I'm not so precious that I need to be protected from the idea. It is what it is.


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Posté 02 juin 2014 - 05:26

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I kind of like Dwarf Commoner. Starting out a duster and ending up a Paragon has it's appeal. "It was all a dream, I used to read Word Up magazine"


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Posté 02 juin 2014 - 05:57

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You keep focusing on the games. I'm well aware that it's a choice based medium.

 

There is either a canon or a "mutliverse", the moment you get interested beyond the games. You have a choice to either rationalize it as some kind of alternate setting. Or throw your hands in the air and say there is a canon. I'm fine doing the latter. I'm not so precious that I need to be protected from the idea. It is what it is.

No no no no no no no. What happens outside the games STILL happens, even if your playthrough doesn't match the exact criteria, the events still happens, just under different circumstances and details. You just don't to witness the events.

 

As I've also said muliple times by now, BioWare HAS to establish some sort of background for their extended universe material. But these backgrounds DOES NOT invalidate our playthroughs. Nor are the backgrounds BioWare chooses to go with neccesarily consistent with eachother.


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Posté 02 juin 2014 - 06:47

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No no no no no no no. What happens outside the games STILL happens, even if your playthrough doesn't match the exact criteria, the events still happens, just under different circumstances and details. You just don't to witness the events.

 

As I've also said muliple times by now, BioWare HAS to establish some sort of background for their extended universe material. But these backgrounds DOES NOT invalidate our playthroughs. Nor are the backgrounds BioWare chooses to go with neccesarily consistent with eachother.

 

Fair enough. That works, I guess. Lets just say though that I don't want to exert myself mentally to come up with "alternative" ways the events would play out in the books, in order to coincide with my playthroughs better. I'm satisifed with just accepting it at face value. If I really sat down and thought about it, I could come up with a decent fan fiction that blended it all together, but I don't want to bother. It's easier to just say Sten/Zev/Wynne/Leliana/etc all lived. And whatnot. I'm not so attached to my playthroughs to insist on them being valid.


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