What's wrong with Orlesians?
*hugs Leiliana*
I like how you mention Leliana, a woman who identifies herself as Ferelden. ![]()
What's wrong with Orlesians?
*hugs Leiliana*
I like how you mention Leliana, a woman who identifies herself as Ferelden. ![]()
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Yeah, she's just a Ferelden corrupted by growing up in Orlais. Heh
I'm hoping the human is an Orlesian, born of Orlesian parents whose parents were also Orlesians and who grew up in Orlais and absorbed the culture.
Also, I want to be a Chevalier.
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I would like being an Orlesian more if it was another urban centric game, like DA2/Kirkwall. But in Orlais. It sounds like good fun.
Something about an Orlesian adventurer is less appealing to me though, for some reason.
Too many of them are pompous jerk, especially to the nations they annexed.
That's what would make them so much fun to play as. I want to meet a Fereldan and call him a turrrrrnip.
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To me, the fun would be interacting with other Orlesians. Not foreigners. I want to be an Orlesian rogue, engaged in the "Game". And eating ham that tastes of despair.
I'm hoping the human is an Orlesian, born of Orlesian parents whose parents were also Orlesians and who grew up in Orlais and absorbed the culture.
Also, I want to be a Chevalier.
Why do you want to be the worst kind of people we've met so far in Thedas?
Why do you want to be the worst kind of people we've met so far in Thedas?
Orlesians are not better or worse than any other person in any other nation; they're just people. Some are pompous jerks willing to murder people for a prize; other are just harmless, spoiled brats and some are some of the most sophisticated and cultured people you'll ever meet (See Duke Prosper); and that's the high class; the peasants are no different from any Fereldan lowborn.
Better than Tevinter, I'll say. We've only met slavers and slaves from that country.
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Orlesians won me over somewhat with the simple "Uncertainty" item set in MotA. I'm not a fan of the Qun. Or extremists of any stripe really. Uncertainty and anxiety and skepticism pretty much sum up how I see Hawke.
But they need to stop being bastards about the elves.
Orlesians are not better or worse than any other person in any other nation; they're just people. Some are pompous jerks willing to murder people for a prize; other are just harmless, spoiled brats and some are some of the most sophisticated and cultured people you'll ever meet (See Duke Prosper); and that's the high class; the peasants are no different from any Fereldan lowborn.
Better than Tevinter, I'll say. We've only met slavers and slaves from that country.
I was referring to Chevaliers, actually. ![]()
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Yes, I haven't seen anything redeemable about Chevaliers yet. Maybe the guy who saved Kirkwall before (who the Golden Prince armor is based on?).
I want to be from the Anderfells. I grew up eating ham that tasted like despair and by god my inquisition will eat it and like it.
Ferelden most likely(hoping) but there's a chance of the Free Marches. Also, If you know Kevin on Youtube, he's Irish but sounds like a Midwestern American for some reason but accent does decide nationality.
Why do you want to be the worst kind of people we've met so far in Thedas?
I think the slavers are worse than Chevaliers ![]()
Besides Gaspard is a pretty cool character, not out-and-out evil. Plus Ser Michel is the fantasy good guy knight in shining armor, so not all Chevaliers are bad guys.
Honestly I do think BioWare will make it as blank as they possibly can when you get down to it. You will have some basic information about the character, Elf, Dalish, Dwarf Surface...Qunari...not Qunari.
But in actuality things like nationality will be up to us to head cannon away. I hope so anyways, because then things might get a little bit complicated in the grand scheme of things, and we know how RPG players like to have their headcanons stripped from them. ![]()
I think the slavers are worse than Chevaliers
Besides Gaspard is a pretty cool character, not out-and-out evil. Plus Ser Michel is the fantasy good guy knight in shining armor, so not all Chevaliers are bad guys.
Slavers are at least honest about their intent. Chevaliers are more "I will protect you from thieves, rapists, and murderers...unless I'm the one who want to do those things."
Gaspard is a warmonger, one of the worst kinds of people. He wears the mask of a nice person, but so do demons. And Michel still killed innocent people as an initiation.
My hope is the following.
Warrior- Mercenary or Chevalier
Rogue- Bard or Mercenary
Mage- Circle mage or Noble Apostate.
We may be Orlesian but we don't have to be a noble.
With the other races only getting a single backstory(Dwarf = Surfacer, Elf = Dalish, Qunari = Vashoth), it's unlikely the Human will have this range. Maybe a different story for Mage compared to Nonmage, but that's it.
It seems like the human Inquisitor is either going to be from Ferelden, or be of partial or full Fereldan ancestry. The name Trevellyan has origins in Cornwall, and the player character will either have a British or American accent.
If this hero is from Ferelden or of Fereldan ancestry, I hope this is the *last* hero from Ferelden that we'll ever see in the series. It is probably my favorite nation in the lore, but having all the human heroes be from one country is getting a bit old. Thedas is a big place. Why not heroes from Orlais, Nevarra, the Anderfels, Antiva, Rivain, any one of the city-states of the Free Marches, or barbarian tribes like the Chasind or Avvar?
I assume part of the reason we're going to be from Ferelden is that's the part where the culture has been most established in the games; we know how Ferelden operates, we know the basic mentality of a character from Ferelden, so Bioware assumes that's the easiest baseline for human characters for the player to get into that mentality.
DA2 showed us Kirkwall, but not much else in regards to the Free Marches; it's possible they just didn't want to shoe horn us into being a Kirkwaller.
Hopefully all the time we spend in Orlais in this game will shift that so that the next human pc might be Orlesian instead, just for a change.
Or, who knows. Maybe in the next game they may have enough time to work multiple races and origins into the game and we'll have an option.
One theory I've seen posted before for why the player character probably won't be Orlesian, is that the game is largely set in Orlais and the player isn't familiar with the nation. By having the player character come from a nation other than Orlais, he or she doesn't seem like a dunce for needing info dumps about Orlesian culture, important Orlesian characters, or on locations within the country.
I thought that was as good an explanation as any. Of course you also wouldn't necessarily need a character from Ferelden to achieve that. The same could be achieved with a Nevarran, or a Tevinter, or someone from the Anderfels, ect., ect.
the human backstory should be from anywhere but orlais (if rouge or warrior) for the mage character they needed to have it where it was like in DA:O
I think the idea isn't just "we don't know much about Orlais", but that we do know a lot about Ferelden.
Of course, it doesn't make a difference to entirely new players to the series who don't have a clue about either, but Ferelden's the best established in the player base's mind.