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[CMdrShep93]

 

I think he is the perfect candidate to lead a resurrected Cerberus.

[Sirzechs_Krios]

New baddies are needed, i dont want the next enemies to have anything to do with cerberus.

[SilJeff]

I'd rather there be no Cerberus in the next game. Sure "Cerberus is an idea", but they were destroyed in ME3.

[SwobyJ]

I think he is the perfect candidate to lead a resurrected Cerberus.

 

He looks more like a reverse Cerberus.

 

TIM only mind controlled people for his specific goals, and considered it an upgrade (and in ways it was - anyone who could even remotely stand toe-to-toe with Shepard in ME3 is a powerful being). He isn't really interested in brainwashing most of those who stand against him, at least until the conflict got dire.

 

Kane, from what I remember, was more about keeping people low and more indiscriminately brainwashing others.

Sure they gave him a crazier story in later C&C games, but previous to that, he was more about securing a domination over a lowly population, where the only real benefit of being in Nod was that if you served it well, then you'd have more individual power than you would have in GDI.

 

Anyway my point is that TIM is a screwed up Order (through fomenting chaos) while Kane is a screwed up Chaos (through a disaffected order).

 

New baddies are needed, i dont want the next enemies to have anything to do with cerberus.

 

I have no problem with Cerberus with itself, but I NEVER want to see the ME3 Cerberus ever again, and even the ME2 Cerberus annoyed me at times.

 

I'd rather there be no Cerberus in the next game. Sure "Cerberus is an idea", but they were destroyed in ME3.

 

I sort of agree.

 

I'm fine with Cerberus being involved with the story, being acknowledged, etc.

 

I'm fine with facing some faction that is descended from Cerberus in some ways.

 

But I'm not fine with Cerberus being some central ally (ME2) or antagonist entity (ME3). If they have a role in things (even in a historic sense - like in a sequel I have no problem with visiting an old Cerberus facility) I'm alright with that, but I don't want their position overblown.

[Malanek]

I'd rather there be no Cerberus in the next game. Sure "Cerberus is an idea", but they were destroyed in ME3.

 

"We are told to remember the idea, not the man, because a man can fail. He can be caught. He can be killed and forgotten. But four hundred years later an idea can still change the world."- Evey, from V for Vendetta.

 

It would be illogical to assume Cerberus are destroyed while there is any form of racism. I do think the focus of the game and enemies should change away from Cerberus but although hey were severely weakened but they still have financial assets, advanced technology and a never ending stream of new recruits.

 

New information from the war discrediting the Salarians and Asari will come to light which will cause unrest if those misdemeanors are ignored. The Krogan will be viewed as a threat if the genophage was cured. The council is in strife, its fleets destroyed and piracy is likely to run rampant. "Humanity first" is simply too strong a propaganda for Cerberus, whether the name remains or not, fading from relevance.

[BioWareM0d13]

Assuming the next game is a sequel, Cerberus should be dead and gone for good.

 

Cerberus got too much attention as it was in the Shepard trilogy and the books and comics series. They played far too large a role in Mass Effect 3, nearly overshadowing the Reapers, and got the writer's pet treatment in the books and comics. The less we see or hear from the series from this point forward, the better.

 

Also Cerberus should no longer exist after the events of Mass Effect 3. They had just finished playing the role of galactic Judas, nearly condemning billions to death and their own species to extinction. Lets just say that the Cerberus brand should be damaged beyond all repair.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

I am the new TIM. I'm MIM (MegaIllusiveMan LOL)

 

OT: nope. Like Han said, they should be gone. If it's a sequel... I think we got too much involvement by Cerberus on everything(Comics, like the soon-to-be over Mass Effect: Foundation that focus entirely on them; books like Mass Effect: Ascension, Mass Effect: Redemption, the back story of TIM, aka Jack Harper on Mass Effect Evolution, etc,etc...)

 

Focus on an entirely new enemy. No Reapers, no Cerberus...

[Remix-General Aetius]

how about no Illusive Man types at all? I'm sick to death of these cliche'd stereotypical characters. how about trying something original for once?

[Blad3Zer0]

how about no Illusive Man types at all? I'm sick to death of these cliche'd stereotypical characters. how about trying something original for once?

Ah, but this is the 21st century. Nothing's original anymore.

[XXIceColdXX]

No more Cerberus please! Already overdone.

[themikefest]

TIM is not dead. It was his clone on the Citadel. It won't be Cerberus anymore. He will rename the organization.

[stysiaq]

What about ME4 taking place a thousand years after ME3 and 500000 light years away so that we can have a fresh start.

[WildOrchid]

No more cerberus.

[Anacronian Stryx]

What about keeping the next game more personal - like a motive for revenge or something, I'm really tired of saving the Galaxy every other week.

[General TSAR]

As much as I love Cerberus and wanted TIM to be a LI, it's time to let the vanguard of humanity rest. 

 

However, that doesn't mean there shouldn't be other non-alliance pro-human paramilitary organizations operating within the galaxy. 

 

Also: IN THE NAME OF KANE!

[ShaggyWolf]

If I get to decide while in the role of the player character whether or not Cerberus is good or bad and if I should associate with them or not, then I'd absolutely want them to show up again. Non-indoctrinated Cerberus is one of my favorite things about the original trilogy, and I feel like they were oversimplified and squandered in their ME3 portrayal. I feel like Cerberus and TIM had too many good and valid points about humanity's rights and place in the galaxy, and I liked working with them in ME2. I was very disappointed with the way they went in ME3, and that I couldn't work with them again.

 

If they're just going to be indoctrinated or otherwise forced into a villain role again, I'd rather they just stay gone.

[Gwydden]

 

"We are told to remember the idea, not the man, because a man can fail. He can be caught. He can be killed and forgotten. But four hundred years later an idea can still change the world."- Evey, from V for Vendetta.

 

It would be illogical to assume Cerberus are destroyed while there is any form of racism. I do think the focus of the game and enemies should change away from Cerberus but although hey were severely weakened but they still have financial assets, advanced technology and a never ending stream of new recruits.

I didn't get the impression Cerberus as an idea was about racism, but about humanity first. That is certainly a concept I'd like to explore in the future.

 

No more Cerberus please! Already overdone.

Cerberus itself? Sure. Pro-humanism? Not so much. I wouldn't mind (and would actually like) an organization with the same general goal, as long as it had a very different "feel" and leader(s) from the old Cerberus.

[Malanek]

I didn't get the impression Cerberus as an idea was about racism, but about humanity first. That is certainly a concept I'd like to explore in the future.

 

Absolutely, they see themselves as humanity first. But where do they get the majority of their recruits? I believe their propaganda is most easily swallowed by those who are, at least to some degree, racist. It's an illegal organisation so people who join have to have a strong reason for it. There are other alternatives but the people who join Cerberus do not consider them strong or forceful enough.

[KaiserShep]

I suppose there's always going to be some sort of Guild of Calamitous Intent, but I'd rather never see another one in the MEU.

[Gwydden]

Absolutely, they see themselves as humanity first. But where do they get the majority of their recruits? I believe their propaganda is most easily swallowed by those who are, at least to some degree, racist. It's an illegal organisation so people who join have to have a strong reason for it. There are other alternatives but the people who join Cerberus do not consider them strong or forceful enough.

If there was to be a pro-human organization in NME, I think it would be smarter of them to let aliens out of their propaganda and just present themselves as, well, just a human STG. A covert ops group performing missions and research for the benefit of humanity, whether involving aliens or not. And if they do involve aliens, it would do them good to show they're not against diplomacy and cooperation if the situation calls for it.

 

TIM'r argument against them was that it was difficult when the two parties hated each other. Well, what about not making them hate you in the first place? Respect and even a little fear can be useful, but hate is a bomb waiting to explode in your face.

I suppose there's always going to be some sort of Guild of Calamitous Intent, but I'd rather never see another one in the MEU.

My point is, pro-human doesn't have to mean "of calamitous intent". It doesn't even have to mean xenophobia.

[Malanek]

If there was to be a pro-human organization in NME, I think it would be smarter of them to let aliens out of their propaganda and just present themselves as, well, just a human STG. A covert ops group performing missions and research for the benefit of humanity, whether involving aliens or not. And if they do involve aliens, it would do them good to show they're not against diplomacy and cooperation if the situation calls for it.

 

TIM'r argument against them was that it was difficult when the two parties hated each other. Well, what about not making them hate you in the first place? Respect and even a little fear can be useful, but hate is a bomb waiting to explode in your face.

 

There is definitely a place for that. Relationships can be forged in shared warfare so it would be heartening to think that humanity could move forward with other species peacefully and with closer relations following the reaper wars. However chaos is also a chance for the various factions to advance themselves and I suspect that after a brief "feel good" period of unity those motives would start to show.

 

As I see it the Turians would be furious the Salarians didn't help soon enough. The Volus would see the rebuild as a chance to establish themselves as a major controlling player. The Krogan would be viewed with suspicion from everyone if the genophage was cured... and would be furious if it wasn't. The Asari would be held accountable if anyone in power learned about their prothean relic hypocrisy, although a more interesting scenario could be their government being blackmailed. The Batarians have nothing and likely to be requesting aid to rebuild their homeworld, and when not supplied in sufficient amount elements likely to turn pirate.

 

This is the main reason I don't want the game set in another galaxy. Despite the flat deus ex nature of the ending, I think things are really, really well set up for a sequel. Its a very interesting political situation.

 

Tensions will be high and Cerberus would still have high level assets and technology squirreled away under various fronts, and enough of them will have survived that I think it inevitable the organisation continues even if under another name.

[JonathonPR]

My first thought on seeing the title was that you don't want to describe a character by describing another. I stifles character development. My thought on seeing the picture...........KANE LIVES!!!!!!