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[Valmy]

The Hardest Thing In The World wrote...

Why is it priced at $39.99, Bioware?

Hopefully it is because the expansion is BG2:TOB sized.

[TheMadCat]

Several gaming news websites say 15 hours and they must have that from somewhere. They also all seem very confident in their information so one could assume they have it from Bioware or EA.

As Bathead said, the original number came solely from the Czech site and every site has just copied and pasted it along with every other detail they got wrong. No one from Bioware/EA has given any number.

[thegreateski]

I have yet to see any actual numbers from Bioware . . .

odds are it will cost around that much though.

Modifié par thegreateski, 23 janvier 2010 - 11:05 .

[Parker Kincaid]

Jaymo147 wrote...

Isn't it only $30 for the PC?

Depends where you look. Most places have it priced at 39.99 USD.

• Pre-order Awakeing  from Amazon US is 39.99 USD for the PC release. Amazon US has the 360 and PS3 Awakening releases priced at 36.99 USD.
  
• Pre-order Awakening from GameStop has the PC, 360, and PS3 releases all priced at 39.99 USD.
  
• Pre-order Awakening from Steam for a digital copy is 39.99 USD.
  
• Pre-ordering Awakening from the EA Store only allows pre-ordering the PC version and the list price is 39.95 USD. Previously EA was giving 10 USD off for the pre-order.The digital copy is back to 39.95 USD but if you pre-order the physical copy it still is priced at 29.95 USD in your shopping cart.

Modifié par Parker Kincaid, 23 janvier 2010 - 11:12 .

[Marcus Aurelius]

Well I can attest to it being expensive here in Ontario Canada I pre-ordered the pc version from gamestop and paid the full amount (I do so I don't have to wait) and it came to 50.84 Canadian (thats with a 14% sales tax), even the guy at the counter said it was expensive. Maybe my gamestop doesn't have an updated price or something but yeah pricey, to think I only paid about 15 dollars more total for the collectors edition of the full game

[MprezdNZ]

MerinTB wrote...

Prosercunus wrote...

For Americans (myself included) if a game is 50 dollars retail and the expansion is 40 dollars that is way more then usual.

It should be 30 dollars at most. I am actually going to wait until it drops to 30, and seeing how fast Dragon Age dropped in price on some websites (Amazon specifically) I wont even need to wait 1-2 weeks after release to pay the proper price of 30.

I can afford 40 of course, but they need to at least make a standard. If jackass companies want to charge 60 for PC games and 40 for expansions then just make it the standard and quit dipping your sticks in the water to see how consumers react to it.

All this talk of "Dragon Age" dropping in price already.
It hasn't.

Amazon's listing of $44.99 instead of $49.99 for the PC, and $56.99 instead of $59.99 for the consoles, is typical for any games they sell.  They often pre-sell them for those prices.
I did this in another thread a couple weeks back, and I'm not going to bother to pull up all the lists again - but that holiday sales price everyone was quoting a month ago was just that - a holiday sales price.  Best Buy and everyone brought the prices back up to MSRP shortly after the holidays.

Yes, in 6 months to a year after release, most PC games and many console games will drop in price.

But it hasn't been that long yet.

I think when people talk about the price drops they regularly forget that the game was released at a time when the US is usually involved in a price war on games for the holiday season - hence the very low price many people got it for.

Merkar wrote...

If you guys want this thread to be closed, talking about 'illegitimate acquisition' is a sure and quick way to get to that goal.

There is a very big difference between talking about condoning piracy vs the effects of piracy on whether or not  people will still then buy the game legitimately or how actual pricing affects a person's decision to pirate. 

[damage1900]

I think it's priced too high given it's basically the same thing, but in a new scenario with characters, etc. Expansions packs, where you need the original game (ie the engine, graphics, etc - the base is already done) really needs to be something special in justify the asking price.



Also, just because expansion packs are priced at a certain price point (status quo), doesn't mean it needs to be.



I think with ME2 coming out, and with other games on the horizon, my money is best directed elsewhere.

[Whisa]

damage1900 wrote...

I think it's priced too high given it's basically the same thing, but in a new scenario with characters, etc. Expansions packs, where you need the original game (ie the engine, graphics, etc - the base is already done) really needs to be something special in justify the asking price.

Except you're not dealing with a blight.

You're dealing with an entirely new threat, in an entirely new area, with an entirely new enemy.  Enemies, from the look of the trailer, in fact.

Hell, you can say ALL expansions are just new scenarios with new characters.

AoEIII?  New civilizations.  Pretty much all you got.
WoW?  New big baddies to go after.
Sims?  New stuff to buy/ places to go.
ME2?  Same character, new threats.  From what i've gathered, in any case, I havne't played/ watched trailers

That's why they're expansion packs, not new games.  Same people/ place, new threats.

[damage1900]

Whisa wrote...
Hell, you can say ALL expansions are just new scenarios with new characters.
...
That's why they're expansion packs, not new games.  Same people/ place, new threats.

Exactly, in an expansion, as a rule you're leveraging off existing assets. Sure, there's new content, but you're not redesigning the wheel. And as it's an expansion the price point should reflect this.

I still think the entry price is steep given the basic game is only $10US dollars dearer, or if you like $10US dollars cheaper than ME2 (a self contained new game).

cheers

Modifié par damage1900, 24 janvier 2010 - 12:35 .

[Whisa]

damage1900 wrote...

Whisa wrote...
Hell, you can say ALL expansions are just new scenarios with new characters.
...
That's why they're expansion packs, not new games.  Same people/ place, new threats.

Exactly, in an expansion, as a rule you're leveraging off existing assets. Sure, there's new content, but you're not redesigning the wheel. And as it's an expansion the price point should reflect this.

I still think the entry price is steep given the basic game is only $10US dollars dearer, or if you like $10US dollars cheaper than ME2 (a self contained new game).

cheers

Provided the content is even half as long as DA:O (hopefully more, though!), it's still a good price.  It branches off another game, but is self-containing and a new game at the same time.  Same PC, different threat...  takes the same amount of time, money, and resources to create.  $10 off is very nice to acknowledge that this is not a new concept, but going $20-$30 for the game and expecting it to be of any decent length is, in my opinion, nonsense.  A $20-$30 dollar expansion pack is going to be what AoE IIIs Asian Expansion was - now THAT was an expansion not worth any money if you were interested in the campaign.  Freestyle was fun, but that campaign was just pathetic.

[Brass_Buckles]

Whisa wrote...

damage1900 wrote...

Whisa wrote...
Hell, you can say ALL expansions are just new scenarios with new characters.
...
That's why they're expansion packs, not new games.  Same people/ place, new threats.

Exactly, in an expansion, as a rule you're leveraging off existing assets. Sure, there's new content, but you're not redesigning the wheel. And as it's an expansion the price point should reflect this.

I still think the entry price is steep given the basic game is only $10US dollars dearer, or if you like $10US dollars cheaper than ME2 (a self contained new game).

cheers

Provided the content is even half as long as DA:O (hopefully more, though!), it's still a good price.  It branches off another game, but is self-containing and a new game at the same time.  Same PC, different threat...  takes the same amount of time, money, and resources to create.  $10 off is very nice to acknowledge that this is not a new concept, but going $20-$30 for the game and expecting it to be of any decent length is, in my opinion, nonsense.  A $20-$30 dollar expansion pack is going to be what AoE IIIs Asian Expansion was - now THAT was an expansion not worth any money if you were interested in the campaign.  Freestyle was fun, but that campaign was just pathetic.

From what I have heard, there are only 15 hours of new gameplay in the expansion.  At the time I preordered, the expansion was going to be $10 less for PC than console, or I would have reconsidered my purchase.  But now I've already preordered--I'm not happy about it, but whatever, right?  I'll enjoy the expansion, of that I'm sure.

The thing is, while the main game is 50+ hours of gameplay, and the expansion adding only 15, just keep in mind that you'll probably replay the expansion every time you replay the regular game.  So, while I dislike the high price tag for an expansion (the same thing was done to Sims 3, fyi, much to my dismay), I imagine I will get my money's worth regardless.

[Bathead]

THE 15 HOURS WAS AN UNSUBSTANTIATED RUMOR!!!!
(sorry for yelling.)

Modifié par Bathead, 24 janvier 2010 - 03:39 .

[addiction21]

sprybry wrote...


well, you need to move to alberta then, CC.  no provincial tax, just the 5% Gouge & Screw Tax.  can't complain though, since the VAT in other parts of the world can hit up to 25%...ouch!

Gouge and Screw? Sounds kinky...

[Franpa]

wowpwnslol wrote...

MprezdNZ wrote...

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please. go back to your grinding game with all the other 5 year olds and leave the grown up games to the grown ups. You can easily take 80 hours to play this game on one play through if you choose to. Plus it says x amount of hours gameplay. It never says x amount on one playthrough. If you actually go through all the dialogue in the game and do all the origin stories it would be fairly simple.

lol, another blind Bioware sycophant getting mad, how cute. Maybe if you didn't go afk while the game was running or read as fast as a 5 year old, maybe you'd realize this game is 50-60 hours at MOST. Reading responses from mad Bio fanbois is hilarious, grats on dumb.

It took me 55 hours to do my first playthrough, now I'm doing it again with a different type of character and Origin story, so total gameplay time will be cutting it close as I expect to replay the game in half the time now that I know what to look for for each quest etc.

I expect that after playing the game with each type of character and thus each origin story, you would spend just over 120 hours.


  

Modifié par Franpa, 24 janvier 2010 - 04:58 .

[MerinTB]

Prosercunus wrote...

MerinTB wrote...

Prosercunus wrote...
It should be 30 dollars at most. I am actually going to wait until it drops to 30, and seeing how fast Dragon Age dropped in price on some websites (Amazon specifically) I wont even need to wait 1-2 weeks after release to pay

All this talk of "Dragon Age" dropping in price already.
It hasn't.
Amazon's listing of $44.99 instead of $49.99 for the PC, and $56.99 instead of $59.99 for the consoles, is typical for any games they sell.  They often pre-sell them for those prices.
I did this in another thread a couple weeks back, and I'm not going to bother to pull up all the lists again - but that holiday sales price everyone was quoting a month ago was just that - a holiday sales price.  Best Buy and everyone brought the prices back up to MSRP shortly after the holidays.

I have seen it drop many times on slickdeals and other savings websites for various day or week long sales. I dont need you to tell me it hasnt since I have seen it (and taken advantage of it) myself.

Maybe not in general but if you dig around you can find Dragon Age Cheap. I never said on your average day it is any cheaper now did I?

No, but you did say "Amazon specifically."
The point of your post was that DAO was dropping in price rapidly.  The implication seemed to be that it was doing so because it deserved to (either due to bad sales or being a bad game, you weren't clear.)
Moving the goal posts and now saying that you meant you could find good deals on the game is a major shift from your whole post which was about games costing too much.
Any game you can scrounge around and find some small website that is selling it for much cheaper than the average.  But until Walmart, Best Buy, Gamestop and Amazon significantly drop there prices you cannot make a blanket statement like "seeing how fast Dragon Age dropped in price on some websites (Amazon specifically) I wont even need to wait 1-2 weeks after release" without being called out on it.

If your point had been "I think prices are too high, I'll watch for web sites that sell stuff for significantly cheaper than the going rate" you shouldn't have worded it the way you did.

As you mentioned Amazon specifically, I quoted only Amazon back to you.  I think that's being completely fair.

[dkjestrup]

Aeto Alessos wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Aeto Alessos wrote...



Well i'm not Australian, judging from where i come from though... if i were you i'd be more afraid of my minotaurs

Oh, well thats what I get for assuming but I bet you still talk funny Hmmmm minotaurs... wait I am sure it is another island... New Zealand?

Minotaurs, not sheep!

You mean Kiwi's right?

Australia has more sheep per capita then us (I'm a New Zealander).

I did crack up laughing though 

[Franpa]

Since when does NZ have a human population? I thought the sheep killed them all back in circa 1880 o_o

[Clova]

Franpa wrote...

Since when does NZ have a human population? I thought the sheep killed them all back in circa 1880 o_o

Yes, but then elves and wizards and hobbits invaded, and repopulated the entire country!

[iix 13east xii]

i got my DA:O for 39.99 w/blood dragon armour & shale @ futureshop, and the expansion is supposedly the same price as that?



better be worth it :/

[Brass_Buckles]

Bathead wrote...

THE 15 HOURS WAS AN UNSUBSTANTIATED RUMOR!!!!
(sorry for yelling.)

I'm not so sure this is an unfounded rumor; when I preordered, that's what the guy at Gamestop told me--fifteen hours.  Yes, it was rumored on the websites, but he had not heard the rumors even though I had.  He had whatever info the store was given for the release--and if they told Gamestop fifteen hours, you can guess that most of us will take more like ten to thirteen hours.  This was also when the PC version was meant to be out earlier this month (now it's in  March with the console versions).  Perhaps more gameplay will have been added in by the time of the release, but somehow I doubt it.  Just because it's a rumor doesn't mean that it's false--especially when you hear the information from a creditable source.

You can yell all you like, but I really doubt this is going to be a 30-hour expansion--unless you're just really,  really slow/thorough at it.  And maybe not even then.

[TheMadCat]

Ah yes, the Gamestop employees. The stories I could share about my experiences with their "knowledge", but I'm drifting off topic here.



Just so you know hearsay is never a viable form of evidence. Now I'm not saying your wrong, you very well could be completely correct, but at this moment your evidence is garbage and doesn't really do anything to aid in your defense. Melo had made a few comments related to length and none of those really support the 15 hour theory. So we can hypothesize off of Melo's comments or we can trust the word you had with a Gamestop grunt.