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[Rkaar]

You people are scaring me. The only time I have bought extensions was for Gates of Oblivion and they added HUGE amounts of playing time. But GoO is from another company. Has anybody played Neverwinter Nights and their extensions? How did Bioware handle them? I fully expected the Awakenings expansion to be as long as DA:O.

[DoctorPringles]

Rkaar wrote...

You people are scaring me. The only time I have bought extensions was for Gates of Oblivion and they added HUGE amounts of playing time. But GoO is from another company. Has anybody played Neverwinter Nights and their extensions? How did Bioware handle them? I fully expected the Awakenings expansion to be as long as DA:O.

The expansions to NwN were substantially smaller than the original campaign, as I am sure Awakening will be susbstantially smaller than DAO. I expect about half the content, which is the norm for expansions. I've yet to play an expansion that is even 75% as large as the original.

[LyonVanguard]

Considering the fact that you pay $10 more for a crappy wii game that has half the play time, I am not worried about it. You pay for quality and even though some of you might think it is over priced you re still getting quality expensive or not. You either pay for it or you don't buy it. (unless you where to pirate it, but then that would make you an ahole)

[Virusu]

VanDraegon wrote...

Virusu wrote...

VanDraegon wrote...

Sammimo wrote...
Hmmm. just because I pay for it dosn't guarantee it'll be quality though, does it?

Has Bioware failed to deliver quality thus far? It is reasonable to expect the same in the expansion. We have a lot of history to look back upon to justify it.

Yes, they have. Unless you don't consider charging $5-$15 for 30 minutes worth of  bland DLC content a failure of quality. I'll give them credit for their sly marketing strategies though. Ever since EA jumped on board, the scum baggery has gone up a few notches. It's what EA is famous for. . .

The quality was still there and it fit into the official campaign seamlessly. You just dont like the price they were asking for the DLC. You have two options, get used to it or move on to a new hobby. DLC and its pricing is here to stay.

With fanboy sheep like yourself grazing around the forums spitting in the face of anyone with a legitimate criticism, i'm sure they will, as you said, continue to charge $7.00 for 20 minutes of uninteresting sidequest with the gimmick of getting an overpowered sword. I have no doubt you'll obey your masters at Bioware and EA, gobbling up every piece of over-priced side content they can fit down your gullet. Contrary to your irrational conclusion, the money itself is not the issue for me. I'm not poor by any means. I could afford to pay $20.00 for a hamburger but that doesn't mean I'm going to buy it (unless, of course, it's one amazing hamburger -- sadly the DAO DLC isn't that good).

[Franpa]

Do keep in mind that each side quest usually involves additional enemies resulting in more character experience etc. and the ability to potentially reach a higher level then otherwise possible.

[Auraad]

Too expensive? Then don't get it - simple.

You always can wait until it becomes a budget game ... ^^

(That's what I'm goin' to do, actually)

[wwwwowwww]

You know if one cannot afford to spend $30 on a few days worth of entertainment that can be replayed, then one probably shouldn't be spending their time playing video games.



Heck taking a date to the movies for 2 hours costs $30+

[Andaril78]

I must ask you who thinks it´s too expensive. It´s 40 dollars who are roughly 300 swedish kronor. Which is an fully normal price for an expansion here in Sweden. Then what is the normal pricing for an expansion in US? 20 dollars or what?

Sure, I see many here talks about "DLC", of course 40 dollars for an big DLC is too waaay expensive but this is an fullfledged expansion. Isn´t 40 dollars an normal price?

Then Bioware has stated their expansion is bigger than many other games.

So please, don´t only say "overpriced, far too expensive, no way". Instead, argument why you thinks it´s too expensive.

Isn´t 40 dollars an normal pricing for an expansion in US? In comparison, what was the retail cost for DA(not now two months later).

For 40 dollars, what do you want be in Awakening and how many gamehours?

What is an good pricing for you?

(sorry for my bad english if anyone complaints )

[Ultra Samurai Tiga]

40 bucks is a good price for the expansjion. it will be triple its weight because of all the new content thats in the game.

[Matshelge]

Andaril78 wrote...

I must ask you who thinks it´s too expensive. It´s 40 dollars who are roughly 300 swedish kronor. Which is an fully normal price for an expansion here in Sweden. Then what is the normal pricing for an expansion in US? 20 dollars or what?
Sure, I see many here talks about "DLC", of course 40 dollars for an big DLC is too waaay expensive but this is an fullfledged expansion. Isn´t 40 dollars an normal price?
Then Bioware has stated their expansion is bigger than many other games.
So please, don´t only say "overpriced, far too expensive, no way". Instead, argument why you thinks it´s too expensive.
Isn´t 40 dollars an normal pricing for an expansion in US? In comparison, what was the retail cost for DA(not now two months later).
For 40 dollars, what do you want be in Awakening and how many gamehours?
What is an good pricing for you?
(sorry for my bad english if anyone complaints )

And for you, the lucky european, it's only 30€, none of that crazy 1$ = 1€ nonesense that we usually get.

[MprezdNZ]

Andaril78 wrote...

I must ask you who thinks it´s too expensive. It´s 40 dollars who are roughly 300 swedish kronor. Which is an fully normal price for an expansion here in Sweden. Then what is the normal pricing for an expansion in US? 20 dollars or what?
Sure, I see many here talks about "DLC", of course 40 dollars for an big DLC is too waaay expensive but this is an fullfledged expansion. Isn´t 40 dollars an normal price?
Then Bioware has stated their expansion is bigger than many other games.
So please, don´t only say "overpriced, far too expensive, no way". Instead, argument why you thinks it´s too expensive.
Isn´t 40 dollars an normal pricing for an expansion in US? In comparison, what was the retail cost for DA(not now two months later).
For 40 dollars, what do you want be in Awakening and how many gamehours?
What is an good pricing for you?
(sorry for my bad english if anyone complaints )

Part of the problem is that Black Friday falls in November in the US (and Canada have a sales bonanza as well even though theirs is in October) and it is usually the time for huge discounts and deals on games - even new titles. There are lots of trade deals etc as well. And this can often last until Christmas

So people bought it for cheaper than retail, but it then rose back up. So, at release it was $60 pc, $70 ps3 and $70 on xbox 360 (all CDN). The problem is the site I am using doesn't always have all info. they reckon lowest prices in Nov/Dec were $46 for pc, still $70 for ps3 and $65 would xbox 360, but I know I saw all 3 versions at $40 around Black Friday which is potentially when lots of people picked it up. The scales don't tend to incorporate like a 3 day price war. 

Pc is now around $45 but got down to $30 based on their graphs. PS3 stayed at $70 but is now $50 - lowest $40. xbox 360 around $50 but got down to $40. I think the cheapest price I absolutely remember seeing was like #$30 for the 360 version at one store during the sales blitz. 

Modifié par MprezdNZ, 26 janvier 2010 - 12:30 .

[Andaril78]

Yeah, the biggest complaint I´ve against DLC is the fact 1 dollar = 1 euro!! Otherwise, not much to say, I buy the DLCs.

Luckily the retailstores doesn´t compare it the same thing. They follow the value of swedish kronor.

Ehm...Don´t know how I can explain it better in english...

[KneeTheCap]

I think I ranted about this in some other topic, but bear with me



40 dollars for a expansion is not expensive. If you think games are expensive in the U.S, you should compare it to our prices (Finland), the awakening costs 65 euros (that's over 90 dollars) here... That's way over the price of a new full game...



The average price of new PC-games are about 50-60 euros here. Xbox and PS3 games are averaging 60-70 euros. The gasoline costs 1,5 euros/litre. And how's that to do with anything, I dont' know :-D



Anyhow, the awakening is going to be a quite large expansion, so it'll definately be worth your money. Trust me, I know :-)

[Andaril78]

Holy ****, Knee. Do you mean the PC version or are you talking about the consoles?

I´ve always thought due to Sweden´and Finlands intimate history (still many finnish who speaks swedish and many finnish who lives in sweden) that the pricing almost was equal. Oh my. Then if in the future Sweden wants to join the league of euro then i will vote against it!



MprezdNZ. I understand. Here in sweden an PC game roughly costs between 400-500 swedish kronor (cirka 40-50 euro) and an expansion is normally cost between 250-300 kronor (cirka 25-30 euro). But we don´t have days like the Black Friday. You really should think what an game normally costs in US before you starts to complaints about the pricing but I can understand your point. Not always easy to think what it normally costs when you buy it at an discount and then the expansion costs the equal...

[Graciemae]

I think everyone is fixated on the length of the expansion. Since when did gaming become about length? Shouldn't it be about enjoying the experience?

Yeah, it's not what you got but the way that you  use it!

[th3warr1or]

Aeto Alessos wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

Aeto Alessos wrote...

It's alot worse in Australia, for all games and expansions. You have it better than you think.

Well that is just the "decendent of criminals" and "funny talking" tax. Its just the way of the world.

it's a joke do not sick your dingos on me please

Well i'm not Australian, judging from where i come from though... if i were you i'd be more afraid of my minotaurs

judging from ur Username(and my expansive knowledge of Mythologies), I'd say Greece.

[Matshelge]

KneeTheCap wrote...
40 dollars for a expansion is not expensive. If you think games are expensive in the U.S, you should compare it to our prices (Finland), the awakening costs 65 euros (that's over 90 dollars) here... That's way over the price of a new full game...

Holymalony

You need to check out this thing called Steam.
Why pay 65 euros, when you can pre-buy it now for 30 euros. (well, you also need the steam version of Origin to use it, so I guess it won't work, but in the long run, Dragon Age two and all that)

[Magic Zarim]

Graciemae wrote...

I think everyone is fixated on the length of the expansion. Since when did gaming become about length? Shouldn't it be about enjoying the experience?

Yeah, it's not what you got but the way that you  use it!

Let's take it to the extreme. Will you pay $40 for an expansion that would give you 10 minutes worth of play? Like, traveling to this location in Feralden that will look *ABSOLUTELY* gorgeous, BioWare artists having poured their lives in creating that location for months on end..? Where you can then do a 5 minute puzzle quest and retrieve this grand <fill in godly item> or, hear this epic, extremely well written story written by David on one of his best days, from this NPC in this awesome location.. and then well.. be done?

People that ignore and or downplay the value of gameplay length only do so for convenience of their own agendas. Nobody's going to pay for a piece of game that lasts 10 minutes. Or a book with 5 pages. Or a movieclip that is 5 minutes in length. Don't kid yourselves folks.

Modifié par Magic Zarim, 26 janvier 2010 - 06:50 .

[KneeTheCap]

Andaril78 wrote...
Holy ****, Knee. Do you mean the PC version or are you talking about the consoles?
I´ve always thought due to Sweden´and Finlands intimate history (still many finnish who speaks swedish and many finnish who lives in sweden) that the pricing almost was equal. Oh my. Then if in the future Sweden wants to join the league of euro then i will vote against it!....

I think the price was the same for PC and consoles, but I can't be sure. I almost had an heart attack when I saw that pricing so I kinda quickly shut the page down.

And yes, I know steam. I had it once, absolutely hated it. I want to play games offline and not be dependant on some other application to run my games. I know there is offline option, but still...

That brings me up to my question though. I asked this somewhere else, but no-one answered. So I'll ask it again, since it's almost on topic.

So, If I buy digital version of awakening, will I be able to install it, since I have the retail version (You know, the physical one, which you can hold and hug and kiss and...well....) and doesn't those digital version require somekind on program? I'm totally newbie in this digital stuff... (Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I prefer the physica copy, since it looks nice on the shelf). But I'm not that crazy to pay 65e for a game that I can get for 27e (EA store has this pre-order price)...

[Fangirl17]

I think it will be well worth its price tag. I personally have no problem with the price.

[RockGnasher]

I will think about buying the expansion after the next patch comes out.. if the expansion allows you to play without suckling on EA's DRM teet, that is.



My gf and I have had hours and hours of addicted entertainment value from this title. Though, we do not play the game like we a taking a test with a time limit, all the little distractions are factored in... I'm not sure that I'd have the patience to rush through the game, no offense intended.

[Andaril78]

Knee, you must have either physichal versions only or digital versions only. Not one of each other.

[Rkaar]

I am getting disappointed here, people. I am hearing resignation to getting an extension to the game that might be as little as a third of the original game length, while paying just as much. I expected it would double the game(same price, remember?). Instead it will add another sector or two and a couple of rounds(according to what I am starting to expect now that I am being disappointed)of game. It feels like a ripoff.



I'll buy it but feel ripedoff.

[Stevebo]

I don't get this concept that a game "must" be a certain amount of gameplay to meet everyone standards in how much it should be worth. First off it's an RPG, so everyone is going to get a different experience out of it, some may breeze thru it, some may take their time. You haven't even played the damn expansion yet and are already disappointed in it? lol, that's just idiotic. It's an expansion, you don't have to buy it, no one cares about your disappointment, whaaa.

[Realmzmaster]

Expensive is a relative term. $39.99 for an expansion is overpriced for some people. Others think it is a fair price. The bottom line is that no one is making you buy it. No one makes anyone buy the DLC. No one has to buy the original game! It is not a necessity. It is for entertainment purposes.
The publisher and developers will price the game or expansion at a point where it will cover costs and make a profit. If the price is too high wait until it comes down or enters the bargain bin.

Modifié par Realmzmaster, 27 janvier 2010 - 05:00 .