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Punished for being faithful?


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mr_luga

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A concern for me is that, if you got a love interest from the first game, and you want to be faithful, you'll be "punished" for it.

By that I mean, you'll miss on on extra/more dialog. Meaning, for example in ME1, if you romanced Ashley, you'd get to talk to her alot more, whereas if you did not, she would just not be interested.

Now I want there to be something special to those who are romancing the characters, but what I think is kind of lame is that, Im missing out on extra conversations, becouse im not sleeping with them. What I'd like is that, even if I didnt romance ashley, using ME1 as an example, I could still talk more to her. If I recall, you could only make her swap her views on aliens, if you got romanticly involved. I think that's a bit lame, and I hope that isnt the case in ME2.

I hope you dudes and dudettes understand what im saying here, since I have a hard time explaining what I mean sometimes >.<

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Medhia Nox

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See - you may be punished in the short term Mr_Luga, but I bet in ME 3 - if you stick with your ME 1 LI it'll be a pretty epic story.

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I heard it was suppost to be vary emotional reunion in ME 3 if yous stayed faithful if not you will regret that you cheated

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Hopefully, the romances wont be like Ashley's romance in ME1. If your just nice to her it will start a romance which got annoying when I did my single shep import. On my first playthrough im gonna talk to every one but avoid romances if I can as my main's LI is Ash. If I start a romance, ohh well I just wont use that as my main going into ME3. If possible, my main is sticking with Ash right too the end.

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MountainPuncher

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I'm betting those who remain faithful all the way through will be rewarded in some fashion, but it's a bit early to speculate.

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Medhia Nox wrote...

See - you may be punished in the short term Mr_Luga, but I bet in ME 3 - if you stick with your ME 1 LI it'll be a pretty epic story.


/shrug That is what a lot of people thought after ME1 about ME2.  How'd that turn out?

I wouldn't hold my breath on any sort of "epic" story line in ME3 with the ME1 or 2 LI's.  So in effect, yes you are "punished" for being faithful since you miss out on the enitre romance arc of the ME2 story.  That is the whole point of the ME2 LI's though, you are supposed to "cheat" as it were.  Shep is the James Bond of the future, a new Shep girl every installment.

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How is this any different than say missing paragon/renegade content (opposite of the one you choose) or not seeing content for decisions you did not make?



The game is intended to be played multiple times, I'd much prefer not being able to see all the content the first time through.

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The diffrence is I just want the same amount of content as if I didnt romance them, and in content, I mean dialog. I want to be able to talk to them just as much as if I had romanced them, even if I didnt. If that made it more clear ^^;



In ME1 that was impossible. If you wanted to talk to Ashley more but you romanced Liara, you were screwed, and I thought that was pretty damn lame

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yep, just play it multiple times and there ya go. I'm gonna wing it and see where my character goes. If I cheat, I'll just load up another import and stay single on that one. No big deal, we've got probably 2+ years to see everything ME2 has to offer before ME3 comes out.

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how is that punishment? if you romance suze, do you consider it punishment that you cant cheat on her with miranda and have no reprecussions? or that your punished by choosing a renegade option by not being able to choose the paragon one after? if you really consider being faithful in a relationship 'punishment'....then you obviously dont care to be faithful, so whats the problem with cheating then? go for whoever you want, its not like you cant, there will be a very understandable consequence for it, but so does every choice in ME2, thats kindof a selling point of the game, so why would romance be different?

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I hope its easy to just have dialog with them to build character.

I don't wanna risk developing something to jeopardize my ME1 relationship.

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Eh, remembering my playthroughs in DA:O.... I(Male) was having a friendly chat with Zevran, and he says(paraphrasing) "Hey, what's this I hear about you snogging Morrigan. I'm not willing to share..."



And so I says(paraphrasing) "What are you talking about, sharing? I'm straight, and you're clearly a man, you get where I'm going with this?"



So then he goes "Oh, my mistake" and I'm not able to have another convo with him again...



Long story short, don't expect a deep conversation tree if you're not sexin the character up...

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It's a video game, so utilize different characters and save files. One character can be "faithful," and another can screw tali.

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Laterali wrote...

Eh, remembering my playthroughs in DA:O.... I(Male) was having a friendly chat with Zevran, and he says(paraphrasing) "Hey, what's this I hear about you snogging Morrigan. I'm not willing to share..."

And so I says(paraphrasing) "What are you talking about, sharing? I'm straight, and you're clearly a man, you get where I'm going with this?"

So then he goes "Oh, my mistake" and I'm not able to have another convo with him again...

Long story short, don't expect a deep conversation tree if you're not sexin the character up...


It makes sense. Usually someone would be more inclined to tell you about themselves if you were romantically involved with them. Also, I'm sure they would try to avoid you a bit if you rejected them.

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I just have a feeling that by the time the ME3 release draws near, I'll find my replaying the first two in order to fix/screw something up.

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Laterali wrote...



Long story short, don't expect a deep conversation tree if you're not sexin the character up...


Different development teams, so that's not at all an indication of what Mass Effect 2 will include.  I would be surprised if you honestly couldn't just choose to become close friends with all characters, whether your Shepard can romance them or not.  I imagine the subject of romance might be tentatively brought up (VERY tentatively for Garrus, for obvious reasons), but that you can just continue as really close friends instead.  It's like when you play a female character and become friends with Morrigan; it's still a very touching relationship, just not a touching relationship.

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I just hope they don't do what they did with DA:O and ME1 where if you're friendly with a character you're automatically "a couple". If being friendly to people means you're dating I'm gonna have a very busy and expensive Valentines Day.

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Perhaps you have the ability to talk about your ME1 LI, as well. If you stay faithful, it may serve as part of your character motive((You know to which I refer if you watched the launch trailer)).

Modifié par Inarai, 23 janvier 2010 - 05:17 .


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Laterali wrote...

Eh, remembering my playthroughs in DA:O.... I(Male) was having a friendly chat with Zevran, and he says(paraphrasing) "Hey, what's this I hear about you snogging Morrigan. I'm not willing to share..."

And so I says(paraphrasing) "What are you talking about, sharing? I'm straight, and you're clearly a man, you get where I'm going with this?"

So then he goes "Oh, my mistake" and I'm not able to have another convo with him again...

Long story short, don't expect a deep conversation tree if you're not sexin the character up...


lol that sucks, I romanced morrigan and liara in the same play through. But zevran never got jealous like that. Were you flirting with him? Also im sure the LI in me will be worth it in me3. Im sticking with liara.

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You get rewarded for being faithful in ME3. I remember a dev mentioned faithfulness being a plot point when the old LI's return in ME3.

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RyuKazuha

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You get ALWAYS punished for being faithful (or make the right choice in any other way). That's how the world works.

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RyuKazuha wrote...

You get ALWAYS punished for being faithful (or make the right choice in any other way). That's how the world works.


Depends on how you define punishment and reward.  There is reward in human relations and interactions.

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annihilator27 wrote...


lol that sucks, I romanced morrigan and liara in the same play through. But zevran never got jealous like that. Were you flirting with him? Also im sure the LI in me will be worth it in me3. Im sticking with liara.


I don't think so. I was just being friendly. I never chose the handsome elf dialogue choice, or the choices that were obviously for starting a relationship. The time I did a female and romanced Allistair the same thing happened. He kept on giving me the ultimatum of Him or Zevran, and I didn't realize I had been romancing Zevran...

But the same thing also happened in ME1 with Ashley and Liara. I go and talk to Liara, and Ashley gets petty and yells at me, and I'm like " I'm just being nice to the blue alien girl that has no friends..." then all of a sudden I'm confronted by both of them saying choose 1! It's a very bad representation of relationships that needs ironing out...

When I played these games it reminded me of highschool where you're nice to a girl, or open a door for them or, you know, do something completely platonic that is completely innocent. And the next day your friend comes up to you and says, " hey, I heard you and random name are going out.." and you're like, " WTF"

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After seeing how the Tali-mance is being handle, it seems much more fleshed out. That being said IF you CANNOT save your entire squad unless you are in a romance with one of them, I'm going to set things on fire. TONS OF THINGS!

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Inarai wrote...

RyuKazuha wrote...

You get ALWAYS punished for being faithful (or make the right choice in any other way). That's how the world works.


Depends on how you define punishment and reward.  There is reward in human relations and interactions.


If you're faithful, you give away a chance (since if you're not tempted, you just can't be faithful in any way) thus loosing something without proper gain. If you cheat, you take your chance and gain something, maybe losing something in the process. You probably get your share of bad world either way. :P