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[TCBC_Freak]

You arn't being punished, just make a new character and play this time with geting a new lover. I have like 8 characters for ME1. I'll probably do the same for ME2. You'll never miss anything unless you only play once with one character, and if you do that you are stupid and have no reason to play the game because you'll be that guy who complains to his friends about how lame it is that you can't do it all with one character in one play trough like my friend. I hate that guy.

[TheBusDriver707]

Everyone needs to get over this "cheating" and "staying faithful" stuff. You weren't married or dating the character, you had some flirty convo-->admitted you had feelings for each other-->did the no pants dance one night before a crazy mission to try and stop the reapers. So, after two years from said fling, you can move on to a new one. Why is no one saying you cheated on the asari chick in the citadel when you got involved with a LI? Both were about the same.



One night fling doesn't = OMGWTFSOULMATES

[Kabraxal]

It doesn't mean that they aren't soulmates either. That swings both ways.

[RyuKazuha]

TheBusDriver707 wrote...

Everyone needs to get over this "cheating" and "staying faithful" stuff. You weren't married or dating the character, you had some flirty convo-->admitted you had feelings for each other-->did the no pants dance one night before a crazy mission to try and stop the reapers. So, after two years from said fling, you can move on to a new one. Why is no one saying you cheated on the asari chick in the citadel when you got involved with a LI? Both were about the same.

One night fling doesn't = OMGWTFSOULMATES

The consort was obviously a fling. However, depending on how deep a player 
felt the bond between his charakter and the LI in said night, it's merely a fling, or the admission of real and deep feelings.

[Badpie]

Everyone will play this in their own way, naturally, but I think what it comes down to is loyalty as far as consequences and that's probably a similar theme that will be handled in ME3. SPECIFICALLY speaking, we don't know how any of the ME2 romances manifest themselves. They are probably more in depth and specific in this one simply because Bioware learned and grew and figured out how to do things better, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the ME1 romances should be forgotten.

And from what Casey Hudson has generally been hinting at - it matters. He basically said that the love story from ME1 was like the trilogy aspect in general. The second act is the darker, more "troubled" act of any story.

I don't anticipate a whole lot of satisfaction when it comes to the ME1 love interests and their role in the ME2. And that's incredibly frustrating for me. But I also understand that from a storyline standpoint, it might make for a much more dramatic conclusion to the ME1 love story in ME3 conceivably.  But only if they give us enough to allow for believable momentum to carry over to the 3rd game. 

That being said: Are those that are faithful to their ME1 love interests getting the shaft in ME2? I suspect so. And it sucks. All we can do as fans of say, an Ash/Shepard romance, is hope that at some point we'll be emotionally rewarded as the player if we choose to be faithful to that love interest (and I'm going to be, all the way).

I think the new romances and characters are probably just as awesome as they seem, but yes, I do think ME1 faithful people are going to get the shaft this time around. My only hope is that we'll be rewarded instead of punished at the end of the story for it.

Modifié par Badpie, 23 janvier 2010 - 07:21 .

[Inarai]

RyuKazuha wrote...

Inarai wrote...

RyuKazuha wrote...

You get ALWAYS punished for being faithful (or make the right choice in any other way). That's how the world works.

Depends on how you define punishment and reward.  There is reward in human relations and interactions.

If you're faithful, you give away a chance (since if you're not tempted, you just can't be faithful in any way) thus loosing something without proper gain. If you cheat, you take your chance and gain something, maybe losing something in the process. You probably get your share of bad world either way.

Maybe, but that's passive punishment, as compared to the active punishment you can get for not being faithful - which might be for someone you care about to walk away from you.

[Mox Ruuga]

Medhia Nox wrote...

See - you may be punished in the short term Mr_Luga, but I bet in ME 3 - if you stick with your ME 1 LI it'll be a pretty epic story.

Oh dear... I wouldn't get my hopes up.

They won't be bringing back characters from a 4 - 5 year old game, since much of the new shooter audience started following the trilogy in ME2, and they will be banking on bringing in even more console kiddies in the even more shooterfied ME3. It will be a new squad, with one or two returning ME2 members perhaps.

[AngryTigerP]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

See - you may be punished in the short term Mr_Luga, but I bet in ME 3 - if you stick with your ME 1 LI it'll be a pretty epic story.

Oh dear... I wouldn't get my hopes up.

They won't be bringing back characters from a 4 - 5 year old game, since much of the new shooter audience started following the trilogy in ME2, and they will be banking on bringing in even more console kiddies in the even more shooterfied ME3. It will be a new squad, with one or two returning ME2 members perhaps.

Console kiddies...

Where's that thread from the old forum where the kid asked for (and got) the age of about 100 forumites, and the average was mid-upper 20s...

[Burningwolf]

In my latest male shep play thru,Ashley died,and Liara was the LI just out of boredom.But Liara will get the message real quick in 3.Its over...The air lock is over there don't let it hit you on the way out.

[Taritu]

Laterali wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...


lol that sucks, I romanced morrigan and liara in the same play through. But zevran never got jealous like that. Were you flirting with him? Also im sure the LI in me will be worth it in me3. Im sticking with liara.

I don't think so. I was just being friendly. I never chose the handsome elf dialogue choice, or the choices that were obviously for starting a relationship. The time I did a female and romanced Allistair the same thing happened. He kept on giving me the ultimatum of Him or Zevran, and I didn't realize I had been romancing Zevran...

But the same thing also happened in ME1 with Ashley and Liara. I go and talk to Liara, and Ashley gets petty and yells at me, and I'm like " I'm just being nice to the blue alien girl that has no friends..." then all of a sudden I'm confronted by both of them saying choose 1! It's a very bad representation of relationships that needs ironing out...

When I played these games it reminded me of highschool where you're nice to a girl, or open a door for them or, you know, do something completely platonic that is completely innocent. And the next day your friend comes up to you and says, " hey, I heard you and random name are going out.." and you're like, " WTF"

Not sure how you managed that.  Espeically with Liara it's easy to tell her you just want to be friends.  For Ashley, the are some "not appropriate" choices which will shut her down (I agree it's less clear with Ash, but it's dead clear how to stop Liara.  Not that I usually want to...)

[Taritu]

Badpie wrote...

Everyone will play this in their own way, naturally, but I think what it comes down to is loyalty as far as consequences and that's probably a similar theme that will be handled in ME3. SPECIFICALLY speaking, we don't know how any of the ME2 romances manifest themselves. They are probably more in depth and specific in this one simply because Bioware learned and grew and figured out how to do things better, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the ME1 romances should be forgotten.

And from what Casey Hudson has generally been hinting at - it matters. He basically said that the love story from ME1 was like the trilogy aspect in general. The second act is the darker, more "troubled" act of any story.

I don't anticipate a whole lot of satisfaction when it comes to the ME1 love interests and their role in the ME2. And that's incredibly frustrating for me. But I also understand that from a storyline standpoint, it might make for a much more dramatic conclusion to the ME1 love story in ME3 conceivably.  But only if they give us enough to allow for believable momentum to carry over to the 3rd game. 

That being said: Are those that are faithful to their ME1 love interests getting the shaft in ME2? I suspect so. And it sucks. All we can do as fans of say, an Ash/Shepard romance, is hope that at some point we'll be emotionally rewarded as the player if we choose to be faithful to that love interest (and I'm going to be, all the way).

I think the new romances and characters are probably just as awesome as they seem, but yes, I do think ME1 faithful people are going to get the shaft this time around. My only hope is that we'll be rewarded instead of punished at the end of the story for it.

I just intend to play more than one game.  ONe will have me faithful to Liara, another will have no pre-romance.  Etc...

[shinobi602]

TheBusDriver707 wrote...
One night fling doesn't = OMGWTFSOULMATES

ME1 doesn't take place during one night or one day, or one week, but over the course of months. (Ashley said it).

[Taritu]

shinobi602 wrote...

TheBusDriver707 wrote...
One night fling doesn't = OMGWTFSOULMATES

ME1 doesn't take place during one night or one day, or one week, but over the course of months. (Ashley said it).

And with Liara the whole conversation is about a melding that transcends time and space, etc, etc...  If you want to read it as being a lifelong love/bonding, you certainly can.

I do.

Liara.

[Schneidend]

I don't intend to miss out on LI content in ME2 just to "stay faithful" to a digital woman.

[Godzilla vs Xenu]

Especially after playing Dragon Age, I am fully expecting that there will be some surprises if you boink around indiscriminately. I had one that shocked the heck out of me - I thought I was being all slick and then bam! I'm pretty amazed at what the writing team and development team are able to anticipate, and complicate. But If I can hook up with Tali, there's no way I won't be sticking with her for all of playthrough number one.

Oh, and enough with the "console kiddies" crap. It makes one sound like a tool, not an adult, and it's insulting to the other adults who prefer to play on consoles, like myself. I bet you weren't around to play all the early Sierra games or the home version of pong when it was released around Christmas as I was. Please leave that elitest PC crap at home. What machine we choose to play a game on is irrelevant.

Modifié par Godzilla vs Xenu, 23 janvier 2010 - 09:38 .

[Nayt Navare]

I plan on breaking up my with my LI and going after new ones, plus a save where I keep my LI intact.

[Annora]

Scharfschutzen wrote...

It's a video game, so utilize different characters and save files. One character can be "faithful," and another can screw tali.

That's the way I see it. My "main" Shepard will be faithful to Kaidan, while the others will boff everyone else.

[Willie_on_Wheels]

Whatever happened to free love?

[masterjedirobyn]

ok question: if we end up liking the ME2 romances better, can we stay with them in ME3? Or will they only bring back the ME1 romances?

[Mox Ruuga]

masterjedirobyn wrote...

ok question: if we end up liking the ME2 romances better, can we stay with them in ME3? Or will they only bring back the ME1 romances?

If they survive, I would count on something similar that the ME1 LIs get.

Which may be actually worse than nothing at all, to be honest.

[mr_luga]

TCBC_Freak wrote...

You arn't being punished, just make a new character and play this time with geting a new lover. I have like 8 characters for ME1. I'll probably do the same for ME2. You'll never miss anything unless you only play once with one character, and if you do that you are stupid and have no reason to play the game because you'll be that guy who complains to his friends about how lame it is that you can't do it all with one character in one play trough like my friend. I hate that guy.

I think that's a bit like being punished, that I cant talk to characters for the same amount unless I play through the game like 5 times. I dont need to talk about ALL possible things mind you, but I would like the same AMOUNT of dialog with the characters without needing to sex them up

[KainrycKarr]

mr_luga wrote...

TCBC_Freak wrote...

You arn't being punished, just make a new character and play this time with geting a new lover. I have like 8 characters for ME1. I'll probably do the same for ME2. You'll never miss anything unless you only play once with one character, and if you do that you are stupid and have no reason to play the game because you'll be that guy who complains to his friends about how lame it is that you can't do it all with one character in one play trough like my friend. I hate that guy.

I think that's a bit like being punished, that I cant talk to characters for the same amount unless I play through the game like 5 times. I dont need to talk about ALL possible things mind you, but I would like the same AMOUNT of dialog with the characters without needing to sex them up

So dont use the flirty responses that lead to a romance?

[mr_luga]

KainrycKarr wrote...

mr_luga wrote...

TCBC_Freak wrote...

You arn't being punished, just make a new character and play this time with geting a new lover. I have like 8 characters for ME1. I'll probably do the same for ME2. You'll never miss anything unless you only play once with one character, and if you do that you are stupid and have no reason to play the game because you'll be that guy who complains to his friends about how lame it is that you can't do it all with one character in one play trough like my friend. I hate that guy.

I think that's a bit like being punished, that I cant talk to characters for the same amount unless I play through the game like 5 times. I dont need to talk about ALL possible things mind you, but I would like the same AMOUNT of dialog with the characters without needing to sex them up

So dont use the flirty responses that lead to a romance?

...What? I think you've completely missed my point here.

[KainrycKarr]

mr_luga wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

mr_luga wrote...

TCBC_Freak wrote...

You arn't being punished, just make a new character and play this time with geting a new lover. I have like 8 characters for ME1. I'll probably do the same for ME2. You'll never miss anything unless you only play once with one character, and if you do that you are stupid and have no reason to play the game because you'll be that guy who complains to his friends about how lame it is that you can't do it all with one character in one play trough like my friend. I hate that guy.

I think that's a bit like being punished, that I cant talk to characters for the same amount unless I play through the game like 5 times. I dont need to talk about ALL possible things mind you, but I would like the same AMOUNT of dialog with the characters without needing to sex them up

So dont use the flirty responses that lead to a romance?

...What? I think you've completely missed my point here.

No, you can get most of the dialogue without romancing. Just dont be flirty, as in ME1.

The only dialogue you're missing out on is..well romance. Which you don't want.

It obviously WON'T be the same amount, because no matter what, you're skipping the romance.

and you usually have to go through quite a bit of dialogue before you can "sex them up".