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glacier1701

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 All that we have so far from BW on this is that there is a POTENTIAL for LIs from ME1 to be in ME3. There is no ironclad guarantee that they will be even in as cameos. I was just about to add a spoiler here but anyways lets just say that the BW track record on this issue is bad almost non-existent compared to what they stated would be there. And for those of you who have ME2 LIs well lets just say if the past is an indication you'll be in the same boat in ME3 as those who had ME1 LIs - very, very, very disappointed.

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ArcanistLibram

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This idea is kinda out there, but you could just play the game multiple times.

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mr_luga wrote...

The diffrence is I just want the same amount of content as if I didnt romance them, and in content, I mean dialog. I want to be able to talk to them just as much as if I had romanced them, even if I didnt. If that made it more clear ^^;

In ME1 that was impossible. If you wanted to talk to Ashley more but you romanced Liara, you were screwed, and I thought that was pretty damn lame



OMG... you might have to play through twice.....

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what a stupid discussion...



so OP if i didnt "cheat" in me2 will i miss out in me3? its such a concern for me!



just have multiple plays and saves, problem solved.



besids your dead for 2 years no one conciders it to be "still in a relationship" afther 1 night of sex

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I don't know if they have, but they should have implemented this via the comm room on the Normandy, you should be able to contact your love interest from there periodically (Say new dialogue after every mission like ME1), so you can still interact with them in some form.

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glacier1701 wrote...


 All that we have so far from BW on this is that there is a POTENTIAL for LIs from ME1 to be in ME3. There is no ironclad guarantee that they will be even in as cameos. I was just about to add a spoiler here but anyways lets just say that the BW track record on this issue is bad almost non-existent compared to what they stated would be there. And for those of you who have ME2 LIs well lets just say if the past is an indication you'll be in the same boat in ME3 as those who had ME1 LIs - very, very, very disappointed.


One point does not a straight line make.

It's not accurate to say that Bioware's track record on this issue has been bad when they've never had another game with this kind of "issue" in the past.

OP, if it helps, the romances compose of, at most, an extra 2-3% of content to the game. You can probably manage to "lead" a few romances on of sorts to get some of their romance specific dialgue and then cut it short before it becomes a relationship to squeeze out a little more dialgoue if you want. So cut that 2-3% figure to 1-2%.

Alternatively, you may want to consider actually experiencing the new NPCs first to make sure you might not actually like one of them more than your ME1 romance. Stop meta-gaming your character before you've actually had the opportunity to experience ME2.

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"Punished for being Faithful"



Well then what do you think you should stop being?

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Veen130 wrote...

Hopefully, the romances wont be like Ashley's romance in ME1. If your just nice to her it will start a romance which got annoying when I did my single shep import. On my first playthrough im gonna talk to every one but avoid romances if I can as my main's LI is Ash. If I start a romance, ohh well I just wont use that as my main going into ME3. If possible, my main is sticking with Ash right too the end.


Pretty much my thoughts on this as well.

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Zoso-six wrote...

OMG... you might have to play through twice.....


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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Solution: Multiple playthroughs.

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"Punished for being Faithful" well if there is no the same amount of content for all posible romantic options so then yes i think i would be punish for being faithful



"I also think that some of the very same people who are worried that their love interest from the first one won't be a squad member will probably end up cheating on their love interest from Mass Effect 1 anyway," said Hudson. "The ones in Mass Effect 2 are really compelling.



They are not compelling they just ARE what we can't say about ME1 LI

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I think the punishment for cheating will be to make you feel like pond scum if Bioware does it right. 

Unless you haven’t seen the launcher trailer, we all saw what happens to Ashley and it can’t be a nice experience, especially after a few years later.  If Ashley believes you to be still alive, she would natural hope that you to be the white knight charging to her rescue and maybe that what keeps her sane and alive, that you will find her.  Now picture that you have found Ashley and its nothing but a tearful reunion and you are the hero in her eyes but you cheated on her.  What do you do now hero?  Maybe in game you honestly thought she was dead but that doesn’t make things much better. 

I can actual see this ending in gunfire with enraged Ashley screaming.  “While I have been going through hell, you have been boning Tali!!!”

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the perfect story is built on love, betrayal, loss, and redemption. The save file I plan on using I slept with Liara and Ash is dead, but I dont see where moving in on Miranda is "betrayal". There is no ring on this finger, girlfriend!

Plus, I'm going to play the game as a certain archetype, and if it results in Shepards or Mirandas death then so be it, no issues going into ME3. And a hell of a story experience.

Modifié par See Foo, 24 janvier 2010 - 04:30 .


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Eh, I'll keep one play through for being faithful (that I'll never play again) because Miranda just kicked Ashley out of the LOOOOOOOVE BOAT! Vrooom....

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Seriously, no one's getting married here. I have multiple playthroughs with several different romance plots but the truth is I'm going to use my "single" Shepard first. When you think about it in the end the ME1 love interest were boring. Ashley has a tough exterior but deep down she was a whiner, a space-bigot, and had the personality of a wood plank. Liara is 100+ but in retrospect it felt like she was too young. And since I don't make female Sheps I wouldn't know about the Kaiden fling but we all know how his popularity fares when it comes down to the Virmire choice. All in all, the ME2 characters/relationships are going to be way greater and if you don't believe that then you have another thing coming. And as for the whole ME1 Li to ME3 Li I don't think that will really happen or be as epic as you want it to be. What the hell does it matter anyway? Here we all are blabbering about video game relationships, HA! :/ Back to reality.

Carry on.

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KainrycKarr wrote...

mr_luga wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

mr_luga wrote...

TCBC_Freak wrote...

You arn't being punished, just make a new character and play this time with geting a new lover. I have like 8 characters for ME1. I'll probably do the same for ME2. You'll never miss anything unless you only play once with one character, and if you do that you are stupid and have no reason to play the game because you'll be that guy who complains to his friends about how lame it is that you can't do it all with one character in one play trough like my friend. I hate that guy.



I think that's a bit like being punished, that I cant talk to characters for the same amount unless I play through the game like 5 times. I dont need to talk about ALL possible things mind you, but I would like the same AMOUNT of dialog with the characters without needing to sex them up


So dont use the flirty responses that lead to a romance?


...What? I think you've completely missed my point here.


No, you can get most of the dialogue without romancing. Just dont be flirty, as in ME1.

The only dialogue you're missing out on is..well romance. Which you don't want.

It obviously WON'T be the same amount, because no matter what, you're skipping the romance.

and you usually have to go through quite a bit of dialogue before you can "sex them up".


Yeah see this is kind of what I was refering to as being "punished" though. That if I dont romance, I dont get the same amount of dialog I could if I did.

As an example, if I romanced someone, I could start talking about for example:

"So, do you want to go on a date sometime?" (Im just making examples here)

But if I didnt romance I would like to get an option to say something to them anyway, like:

"So, what do you do for fun?"  

Or something like that. It's.. Im horrible at explaining what I mean, but im kind of hoping people understand. I want the same amount of dialog, but that dosnt mean the SAME type of dialog. If I dont romance someone, of course I woudnt want to have dialog that I would have gotten if I did, but I would still like to be able to talk to them more.


EDIT: OKay reading through what people are saying, it seems that you dont get what I mean. I dont blame that on you though, im horrible with explaining things. So thanks anyway

Modifié par mr_luga, 24 janvier 2010 - 04:53 .


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For some reason I doubt they will encourage this. I mean, they added so many different romance options in ME2 I assume they want players to try them out. The romances in ME1 were boring and not even interesting. Even if you were a dick to your 2 options they would throw themselves at you and you couldnt push away until the last minute.



For example, I was a dick to Ashley and Liara the ENTIRE game. 1 mission after I get Liara, she asks if we can be together, I say no and she backs off. I then make almost no interaction with Ashley, then I get the cutscene of them almost kissing and was a bit confused. Then bam, sex scene option. I figured what the hell, and started it. I have full intentions of dumping her ass in ME2, and if the option is available I will just tell her I needed some sexy time to go with my Renegade personality.

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I never found it hard to make sure neither Liara nor Ash were interested. Not sure why people do. The options are clear and early.

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The only problem I have with staying faithful to Ash is that I might miss out on the paramour achievement. Plus, I don't want my 'main' carrythrough character to be a cheater. But having read all the above posts, I can always make my other character a cheater to get the achievement, and see all new dialogue... Oh wait, that's right... I accidently erased my other character!! As of now, I only have my Lvl 60 main character.

Gosh darn, guess I'll have to do another playthrough with a new character in ME1. So dissapointed. (note sarcasm)

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Just do what some of us have already done: Have at least one play through where Shepard is single.

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I am curious to see how an Ash romance will conclude. Being that we've been told by Bioware that at the start Shepard dies and is brought back by Cerberus. I not sure how our religious gunnery gal will react to the new Shepard.



Probably since for the time he's been missing she's been chatting with him and her dad. Would she even accept him as "her Shepard"? Or just some souless frankenstien cerberus created?

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MountainPuncher wrote...

I'm betting those who remain faithful all the way through will be rewarded in some fashion, but it's a bit early to speculate.


The Romance Subplot always ended in a sex scene.....I dont think Shepard was using any contraceptives..

Perhaps a baby?

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BoneDealer wrote...

I am curious to see how an Ash romance will conclude. Being that we've been told by Bioware that at the start Shepard dies and is brought back by Cerberus. I not sure how our religious gunnery gal will react to the new Shepard.

Probably since for the time he's been missing she's been chatting with him and her dad. Would she even accept him as "her Shepard"? Or just some souless frankenstien cerberus created?


It would be great if issues like this were explored in the game. Is Shepard still Shepard? Is s/he still human?

It would bore the console kiddies tho, so there's a dilemma right there for the devs. Make it smart, or dumb it down. Wonder which route they took?

We'll see in a few days, eh? Image IPB

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Anastassia wrote...

That's the way I see it. My "main" Shepard will be faithful to Kaidan, while the others will boff everyone else.


That's my plan as well.

Just_mike wrote...

The Romance Subplot always ended in a sex scene.....I dont think Shepard was using any contraceptives..

Perhaps a baby?


Oh my word,  I hope not.  For those of us of the female persuasion....well, it's a bit hard to save the galaxy when you're fighting morning sickness.:sick:  

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It's not being punished, it's options. Yes, if you are faithful you will miss stuff, same as if you try to get with Miranda and SuZe at the same time you'll have to pick probably and miss something (on that note, pick Miranda and laving SuZe alone will make you miss stuff, so forth and so on), same as if you play as a man you miss all the flirty dialog with the male NPC, so in a way, based on your arguments, we all get punished for something; I'll be punished for playing my main Shepard as a man, cause I'm missing all the male flirting, but that's what happens when you have choice, you have to choose and you miss what you didn't pick.