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#26
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The Big Bad of DAI has been pulling strings for a long time. Ishmael only just arrived in the mortal world.


I'm still holding to my theory that the big bad will be
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ladyofpayne

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I love him in th ebook and I'd like to take him in party.



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ladyofpayne

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Like I said, it's not a logical hatred I have for the character. On an intellectual level I understand all these things.

 

On a gut instinct level, I want to defeat him. I want it to be easy. And I want to leave him a cripple for the rest of his life so he can live knowing that he just wasn't worth killing.

Poor guy. He did nothing to deserve that.



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Ah you're right! I had seen moustache guy with a staff and conveniently forgotten :/
I got the impression that Felassan warned Imshael who the Big Bad was, and that was why he left the mages body... because he knew there would be a lot of destruction coming to Thedas. *Spoilers* I think the Big Bad is female, simply because Felassan says that Briala reminds me of...before he goes splat, and I guessed the "..." was the person that killed him.
So. Much. Unknown. I'm even more excited about DA:I now so I can get some closure from the book :P

Great to hear we may be bumping in to Michel. Him being involved in an Imshael questline makes perfect sense. Sadly so does him sacrificing himself during that questline :(



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Now, I've always had the notion that Chevaliers were 70% hype. They were competent warriors, but nothing near what they considered themselves. Given that we can kill a few fairly easily in Mark of the Assassin, and just the general impression I've gotten, they're no more 'elite' than any other skilled military order in Thedas, just a lot more full of themselves.


I think Michel himself acknowledges that not all chevaliers are made equal, given that some nobles just stick it out for a year or two before leaving the Academie.

If he wasn't a truly excellent warrior, how would he have ever received sponsorship or become Celene's champion in the first place?

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But more than anyone, he was the character used to demonstrate that Chevaliers are badasses. 

 

Now, I've always had the notion that Chevaliers were 70% hype. They were competent warriors, but nothing near what they considered themselves. Given that we can kill a few fairly easily in Mark of the Assassin, and just the general impression I've gotten, they're no more 'elite' than any other skilled military order in Thedas, just a lot more full of themselves.

I contest that those were Chevaliers.

Yes, Tallis said they'd be there and yes, it makes sense for them to be there. But the game never actually identified any of them as "Chevalier" and it is usually very accurate; it's how we distinguish between Tal-Vashoth and actual Qunari in DA2 when their character model is exactly the same.

 



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Poor guy. He did nothing to deserve that.

 

He exists. That's all he needs to do to deserve it.



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Poor guy. He did nothing to deserve that.

Former_Fiend is expecting a book to justify his or her prejudice rather than revising his or her opinion as more information is revealed. The opinion was never going to be fair. 

 

DAO and DA2 presented the chevaliers as a joke, which might prove both awkward and immersion-breaking with the next game set in Orlais. I mean, think about it. If chevaliers are the best warriors in Orlais, but they're all depicted like Baron Arlange, that would turn much of the game setting into a joke. They needed better PR.



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OK, first of all, OP, I think you need to place spoiler tags on the thread title just in case an unsuspecting fan click on it. Second, I don't know why but I think the Grey Warden companion is Michel De Chevin. Because then, it explains why the guy's name hasn't come out yet. Bioware is keeping it a secret because he's in the book. That's just my theory.

 

Also, there's no reason why he couldn't just go to the Wardens and become one. Maybe we meet him in their keep when we attack it or something.



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 Second, I don't know why but I think the Grey Warden companion is Michel De Chevin. Because then, it explains why the guy's name hasn't come out yet. Bioware is keeping it a secret because he's in the book. That's just my theory.

I hope it is. 

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All I know is that Michel has some identity issues. His mother must be ashamed of him.
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It wouldn't really fit Michel's code to join the Warden only to survive or just to slay some darkspawn since he swore to track and destroy Imshael...



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OK, first of all, OP, I think you need to place spoiler tags on the thread title just in case an unsuspecting fan click on it. Second, I don't know why but I think the Grey Warden companion is Michel De Chevin. Because then, it explains why the guy's name hasn't come out yet. Bioware is keeping it a secret because he's in the book. That's just my theory.

 

Also, there's no reason why he couldn't just go to the Wardens and become one. Maybe we meet him in their keep when we attack it or something.

I'd be surprised if Ser Michel turned out to be the warden companion. While it isn't entirely out of the question for him to go to the grey wardens since they're good at handling non-standard problems, I don't think he'd join an order that might find Imshael useful. He helped teach humanity the secrets of blood magic and even in playthroughs where the Architect is dead, the wardens are now in a position where they appreciate the power of blood. I think Ser Michel is going to play a big role when Imshael pops up.

 

I think Imshael is going to play an important role in Inquisition. I think he's going to provide us with Inquisition's equivalent of the dark ritual. He's a spirit of choice. A spirit who has seemingly limitless power to help facilitate those choices. Maybe I missed the page where he said he had it already but as far as I can tell, he basically conjured a ruby that controlled all the eluvians out of thin air. Imagine what he could offer the Inquisitor. Ser Michel is important because he's the person that can serve as the voice of reason/provide us with a fight if we side with Imshael. By that point, he would probably have done research on who Imshael is and found out just how disastrous him running loose could be. If we side with Imshael, we're probably going to have to kill him.

 

As for the warden companion, I think he's going to appear in Last Flight or at least get a name drop like Vivienne got in TME.



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I'm pretty ambivalent when it comes to Michel. On one hand his sections were pretty cool, and yet...

 

Either Orlais (as a section of land) has a severe lack of competent warriors living within it, or this dude is just completely ****ing ridiculous.



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Oh. I like this character. I must say something in support of this thread. Errrr.. emmmm.. OH. I'm pretty certain he'll be the character from TME that we'll have a little quest with, or something, don't remember the word exactly. But him and Ishmael, looking for to seeing in DAI probably, possibly, who knows?? :D



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Also consider Ser Michel might not have had a choice. Let's say two months into his Ishmael hunt he is captured by Celene's men only to be conscripted into the wardens by the local Commander of the grey. Thus he is a warden.

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I'm still holding to my theory that the big bad will be

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The big bad is the mysterious Felassan-killer! Codename: Fen'Harel.

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I hope Fen'Harel never has anything to do with anything ever in the entire series.



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OK, first of all, OP, I think you need to place spoiler tags on the thread title just in case an unsuspecting fan click on it. Second, I don't know why but I think the Grey Warden companion is Michel De Chevin. Because then, it explains why the guy's name hasn't come out yet. Bioware is keeping it a secret because he's in the book. That's just my theory.

 

Also, there's no reason why he couldn't just go to the Wardens and become one. Maybe we meet him in their keep when we attack it or something.

I really hope your theory proves false. Warden looks like a good guy, so I'd hate to have to arrest or kill him on principle. 



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I really hope your theory proves false. Warden looks like a good guy, so I'd hate to have to arrest or kill him on principle. 

Well, we meet the Warden when he a rope around his so even if he isn't Michel either way we have the choice to kill him.  



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Hanako Ikezawa

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Well, we meet the Warden when he a rope around his so even if he isn't Michel either way we have the choice to kill him.  

We don't know if that is how we meet GW. It's just Concept Art. 



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I really hope your theory proves false. Warden looks like a good guy, so I'd hate to have to arrest or kill him on principle. 

 

Why would you do that? Ser Michel wasn't a criminal or anything, and even if he was, he let go of his previous life to join the order. Not to mention in the game he fully focuses on fulfilling your mission.



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Hanako Ikezawa

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Why would you do that? Ser Michel wasn't a criminal or anything, and even if he was, he let go of his previous life to join the order. Not to mention in the game he fully focuses on fulfilling your mission.

He committed murder in his Chevalier initiation. That makes him a criminal.



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He committed murder in his Chevalier initiation. That makes him a criminal.

Doesn't the murder in question have to be a crime for him to be considered a criminal?

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The warden being Michel doesn't make any sense to me. Michel was a younger man, and while I don't recall his specific description, the mental image I had of him wasn't anything similar to the Warden.

 

But beyond that, DAI doesn't take place too long after the end of TME. Given that the last motivation we had for Michel was "heading off to find Imshael", it doesn't make sense that he'd go join the Wardens for no apparent reason in that time.


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