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The only time I made a run at a game without romance was in Neverwhinter Nights 2, since both the romance possible for female where quite too much extreme for my tastes (Casavir a Paladin that was worse than Sebastian,totally white sad Knight in shiny armor, and Bishop, cruel cruel ranger. good if you where roleplayng a Sith in the Forgotten Realms, but really not of my taste). and the only character I would have loved to romance, wasn't even available for a flirt or two. (Sand, the elven mage).

 

I still had fun with the game, but at the time I had a bitter taste ending it. It was like a wasted opportunity.

 

from that time, I had never done again a run without using the romance option when present.



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Heh, the characters that I wanted to try to romance in the games were all un-romanceable. Samara and Aveline that is. I liked that you could try though.

Ah, it seems we're in the same boat. That generally happens to me too, but at least we could try!
Well, we can cross our fingers and hope for this time round, yeah?



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So far I've yet to play a DA game without a romance. That's mostly because I've always LIKED the romance options that were given to my character (not that DAO had much in the way of options unless your character was straight; luckily, I love Zevran). 

 

But for DAI, I'm having mixed feelings about the possible male romances; I only like the look of Cullen, Beardy, and IB (sort of), but yet it's looking like Solas and Dorian may be the only LI available to my character. If that's the case, I'll sadly play sans-romance. 

 

Will it change the game, yes, I think so. I agree with the OP that the romance adds a little something to each playthrough. That's why I'm so sad and so nervous about my character's romantic prospects. Knowing Cullen could possibly be available only to straight women, and that Beardy and IB stand little chance of being LI to anyone, period, is making me go a bit batty to be honest. It's even making it hard for me to feel excited about the game... well, I'm excited, but it's like I'm anxious, too.



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I only really nomanced in Mass Effect 1, because I wanted to hold out for Tali'zorah romance in Mass Effect 2, lol



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Jade Empire, ME, ME2, and that's it I think. But I did go back and pursue them eventually. My favorite one was Revan and Bastilla in KoTOR because of how tied up it was with the story. As dated as that game is I still say that was the one that progressed at the 'most natural' rate. Bring it back.

I usually play all of the games at least once without a romance, but I'm the first to admit, the romances are what makes BW games special for me.  That said, I didn't have any problem not having a romance in DA2 because none of them appealed to me that much - I did the one for Anders & Fenris & Merrill.  And ME2 because I either kept a candle burning for Kaidan or he had died and she was still mourning. The others all had romances.     

 

KOTOR had some of the best couple dialogue, imo. I loved the dialogue for every character in that game.   Revan and Bastila  comparing her to a kath pup.  I however am a Carth fangirl and will forever love 

Revan: Gamorrean pig-man!

Carth Onasi: Oh, ouch. I think you hurt my man-feelings with that one.

Carth and the female PC flirting, her hurting his "man-feelings". "Don't tell me not to take it personally, you hairless wookiee!"


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The first time I did a romance-less playthrough was in ME2 where I was staying loyal to Ashley. I've since done more in DA2 and I believe DA:O. It's generally not a big deal for me, really. 



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Only one play through in Mass Effect did I not romance anyone, cause I was playing a true mean streaked villian. :) couldnt have anyone liking that character much cause he was so mean.

Otherwise I play with romances besides that one time.

Usually its the one time where I try to kill anyone and everyone possible. Hard to romance dead people. :)

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That's actually a pretty surprising statistic to me. I mean, considering all the romance madness we see on the forums, you'd think that was all people cared about

That statistic doesn't tell us how many of those people actually beat the game though. If only 30% of players beat the game then 24% finishing a romance is a bigger chunk than if 100% finished the game and only 1/4 of those finished a romance.

 

Personally romance is one of the things I look for in a game. If there isn't a good romance subplot or options it's a huge downfall IMO.


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That statistic doesn't tell us how many of those people actually beat the game though. If only 30% of players beat the game then 24% finishing a romance is a bigger chunk than if 100% finished the game and only 1/4 of those finished a romance.

It's also worth noting that those who care enough to post on the forums only form a small minority of the total player-base.


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It's also worth noting that those who care enough to post on the forums only form a small minority of the total player-base.

True though that doesn't mean the forumites are guaranteed to have the opposite opinion than the average player. It could also be that romance is actually something that can be discussed and speculated on at length whereas the combat system or music for instance would be a much more limited discussion so the romance talks overwhelm the other aspects. Basically with the telemetry, forum posts, etc...we never really have the whole story. Something like "only 5% played as Dwarves in DA:O" does this mean only 5% tried it, only 5% beat the game with a dwarf, only 5% played exclusively as dwarves, or dwarves only made up 5% of all total characters created? We are Jon Snow and we know nothing.


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Only once in the DA series, with a DN who only had eyes for Gorim. It's not extra fun, but it's no less satisfying to see unfold if you're enjoying the character. She did the sacrifice in the end, which felt like a bit of a cliché given the circumstance and kind of spoilt the whole character for me, but the lack of an (active) romance was fine.

 

It's too early to be plotting that kind of thing for DAI though. Waaay too early.



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That's actually a pretty surprising statistic to me. I mean, considering all the romance madness we see on the forums, you'd think that was all people cared about

 

Games in general tend to have a low completion percentages.

 

My guess is that a lot of those people probably never finished the game, so they also never completed a romance arc. 

 

A better statistic for guaging the popularity (or lack thereof) of the romance content would be the percentage of players who initiated any romance content, whether or not it was completed.


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First off, I'm not asking whether this will be possible, because I know you can easily just not pursue a romance.

 

I'm wondering from you guys if

1) You've done a playthrough of any bioware game where you just don't romance anyone at all

2) Is it fun? Would it be fun?

 

3) How would it play in Inquisition? How would the story play out if your inquisitor never finds love?

1) Yes. 

2) Yes.

3) You miss out of some dialogue and maybe a couple scenes. Nothing game-breaking.



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My canon Dragon Age 2 playthrough, though not my first playthrough, ended up romance-less. It ultimately depends on what makes sense for the character, and what story I want to tell. For DA2, it simply makes the most sense for me thematically that Hawke ends up alone, for various story-related reasons.

 

In other games, there's usually a romance that meshes well with the character story I'm trying to tell. Bastila (obviously), Leliana, Tali, etc.



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I've always did romance in the Mass Effect and Dragon Age games but for my first Inquisition playthrough, my Inquisitor will be celibate. He's got a job to do by controlling a whole organization and can't let distractions get in the way.

 

Though not doing romance tends to lock out character development but it's not so much that it's a big deal. Speaking of content in a no-romance playthrough, there is also a scene in the Citadel DLC where James Vegas wonders why Shepard didn't romance anybody if s/he didn't.



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1: almost all the time, on few PT i try romance cuz my inner completionist whines. but i usually find out i wasn't missing much content (funny Varric/Wynne comment here and there).

2: sure it's fun

 

NPC chars aren't very appealing, to put it mildly. well, for me at least. romancing them adds embarrassing element to dialogues. every one of them has some awful tragedy in the past (or crappy childhood, or dead wife, or slave/rebel mage/assassin thing going) to a point it's annoying - the romance flag makes them even more cliche. and that's not necessarily a bad thing - just let them have some distance to their past (Isabela romance was brilliant), my PC ain't getting paid for listening to all that crap, world needs saving goddamnit!



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I've only ever done it once.  In the first Mass Effect, I romanced no one, so then I wouldn't be cheating on anyone by choosing Jack in Mass Effect 2.  I regretted that decision when I saw how poorly things played out in Mass Effect 3.  The Citadel DLC made things loads better.



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I don't do romances that often unless there's an achievement attached to it. It doesn't seem right to do it in DA:O because you're going to die unless you want to create an evil spawn baby from hell or send someone else to their death. DA:2 didn't really have characters interesting enough to romance. Besides, all of them gave off the "I'll love-stab you while you're asleep" vibe. Yep, my Dragon Age characters do just fine with apostitutes,


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The baby takes the essence of the old god without taint. They are not necessarily evil or have anything to do with hell from how it sounds. Morrigan plans to raise it as she sees fit though. So it could grow to learn to watch humans mostly. I dont consider Morrigan evil myself.
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A BIOWARE GAME WITH NO ROMANCE!? YOU MONSTER!

Romance is the dawn of youth and the thrill of an adventure!
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Yep, did a few Mass Effect 1 and 2 playthroughs with a single Shepard, although it was usually because they were waiting to romance a ME2/ME3 character. At least in ME1 you could still talk to them without the romantic undertones.

 

Also have a ton of single characters in SWTOR. I only like four of the male LIs and three of the female LIs. I got to talk to all of them up to max approval anyway (minus a few love convos here and there) so it didn't bother me.

 

 

It's still fun even with a no-mance, since romance is just a small part of the game anyway. If the LIs aren't my cup of tea I have no problem skipping out on them. Sometimes the dialogue you get for being single is amusing as well. (Female Smuggler in SWTOR dragging around an unromanced Corso? That guy has attachment issues. And it's hilarious.)



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Only game i consistently romance someone is DA:O, simply because for me romancing someone in that game adds to the overall story, the rest of the bioware games i see what each are like then tbh dont bother much with them, spacebar love's me then, i think DA:I will be really interesting imo in this department



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Doing no romances is fun.

 

The PC can be forever alone.

Like in one ME2 run.

 

I got Ashley killed in ME1, Jack killed in ME2, then said "No not again" and did nothing in ME3.

Not with the ObiWan Kenobi brand of luck with the ladies.



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My main Shepard is single, though that was because the characters I was trying to romance weren't actually available for her. It ended up being a little bittersweet, but I still enjoyed the game. The only let-down was scenes like the pre-final mission ones, where she's just sitting around and then it's the final mission. Some interaction with a squadmate friend or Joker would have been nice. The locker scene in ME1 is also less interesting by herself.

 

DA2 mostly averted that, and it was quite pleasant playing a single Hawke. Obviously it helps that DA doesn't do the 'pre-final mission sex' thing. I liked that that both single and romanced Hawkes get the scene with Gamlen after All That Remains, and romanced Hawkes get an extra scene with their LI, but Aveline briefly stops by for single Hawke (or one pursuing Sebastian). It's a nice consideration. It helps that Hawke has a character that's the most important to them without having an LI - Bethany/Carver. They don't need to romance someone to have a special bond.

 

One plus side to a single PC is that you don't feel like you have to take an LI with you everywhere. You can change it up, or have a different bond (like Hawke always takes her sibling).

 

I will do a single Inquisitor at some point, but only after I've tried all the romances.



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Whilst I usually do some form of romance, it has been interesting to see how the friendship develops with characters that you have never shown any interest in.   For example, my female elf mage Warden told Zevran from the off that she wasn't interested in romance so he never flirted or offered a massage but at the end he did ask to stay around with her as a friend.    In DA2 I tried the Sebastian romance (which is almost like not having a romance) and of course this entails not flirting with any of the other characters.   I found it pleasing when Fenris toasted my mage Hawke as the one good mage, or words to that effect at the point where he would be expressing his renewed affection if you were in a romance with him.    However, I wouldn't avoid romances altogether, may be for just one play through.   I feel they do make a difference to the overall feel of the story.