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The Nomance: Playing the game without romancing anyone


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#76
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I prefer ending up in a romance if I can, I really like romances being in really cool stories if I have the option to see one I can at least kind of get into.

I never was/got into Leliana, except for my first playthrough in Origins I always have a romance when I play that game just because shes easy enough to stumble into.

Same for the DA2 but i felt less bad about it at least.

... If Liara wasn't an option in Mass Effect 1 And 3 I probably would have ended up with no romance in all three of those games, despite a playthrough with Garus and the sad fact that ME2 is the only game I have 100% achievements on.



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The closest I've ever come to not romancing someone in a bioware game is ME2, where I stayed loyal to Kaiden. So I was kind of in a romance, but not really... It still affected how I roleplayed Shepard, but I didn't get any of the awesome romance squee moments.

 

It does always feel weird to me, romancing someone during my evil playthroughs. Like, how can such an evil person be nice to anyone, let alone fall in love with them? But alas, I just can't not do a romance.



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One of my Shepards stayed loyal to Ashley, oh how I regret it. But I did get a very funny conversation with Mordin because of it. :) 

 


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I check out the hetero romances in games but I always end up with a playthrough without one. None of my canon characters ever pursued romance. I don't know why but they feel kinda artificial to me, more like forced on the main character or something. The only romance that felt natural to me was Liara to a male Shepard. I'm actually thinking of doing another playthrough of ME 1 to 3 so I might actually do that this time. None in DA so far.



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My canon Dalish Warden is asexual, possibly as the best way to describe her. And her being one of only two people in Ferelden who could stop the Archdemon was enough to occupy her til the end. She wasn't interested in anyone, not even in making friends until close to the end. She did the Ultimate Sacrifice with almost no regrets, and no lover to leave behind mourning her loss. However, Origins wouldn't be the same to me without the romances. It was my first Bioware game and in my first playthrough I romanced Alistair, and loved and hated it. By Origins' example, to me, the romances are more than just subplots and I like that. If Inquisition's romances are just as good then I look forward to it, and hopefully there will be someone even remotely likeable for both sexes.

 Playing through DA2 without a romance seems tough on Hawke. Unless Hawke follows Isabela's example, seven years is a long time to be alone in the same damn city.



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My canon ManShep went through ME1 and ME2 without doing a romance (partway through ME2 I realized I was playing him like he was the only gay man in space), and it was fine, I didn't feel like I was missing out on anything huge. ME3 he made out with Kaidan as hard as he could, though.

 

I do prefer doing romances, but that's just because I like the feels, man. Love the feels. And usually there's SOMEONE in the game that gives me them feels.



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The romances definitely add something more for me and more connection to the PC for me, so I rarely go with just myself... Heh heh



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1) You've done a playthrough of any bioware game where you just don't romance anyone at all

 

Yes- pretty much every Bioware game I've played I have done at least one playthrough, if not more, with no romancing. (Caveat: still working through SWTOR's class stories.)

 

 

 

 

2) Is it fun? Would it be fun?

 

 

It can be. It depends on what you bring to the game, and what you want out of it.

 

My 'canonical' maleShep, for example, never romanced anyone because, well, a military leader romancing a subordinate is a bad thing on a number of levels- bad leadership, bad team dynamics, bad professionalism, and more. There was no romance, and you know what? The story worked as well as it did without it.

 

I think ME was a bit weak in the department of not having no-romance equivalents to romance-dependent emotional support scenes like, say, the Normandy lockdown scene, but DA has avoided those scenes. In DA2, for example, Aveline will come give you some friendly comforting after the mother's death.

 

 

Given how little the stories actually ever acknowledge romances, ignoring the lack of them is pretty easy. For characters that don't show an interest unless you initiate, the topic never comes up. For characters that initiate by showing interest, handling that one-sided crush can be a valuable role-play opportunity.

 

 

3) How would it play in Inquisition? How would the story play out if your inquisitor never finds love?

 

 

 

As a daring and dangerous saving the world scenario, I would imagine. The same as an Inquisitor who does find love. You don't need nookie to save the day.

 

You'll have big problems to solve. You'll make friends out of people you don't bang or get banged by. You'll have touching and heartwarming character arcs that make you enjoy the character (or not), make Big Decisions influenced off of what NPCs do or do not approve of, and enjoy some characters over others. Companions will have their various dysfunctions that you may or may not help them get over.


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#84
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Bioware is the only game compny that does this with any depth.  Its like the only ice cream shop to add the whip cream and cherry.  Sure its good without but its so much better with.  That being said my 1st playthrus are usually friendzoned because I am playing not as the character or as myself but rather as pixels exploring the world interface and getting a handle on the game and story as such generally end up on neutral ground wth most characters in my first playthru and no romance.



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I almost always do a romance in both ME and DA. The only times I can recall not doing so were, like others have mentioned, so I could "save myself" for a LI that doesn't open up until a later game, or to preserve my ME1 relationship. 

 

Generally there's a fair bit of character development locked behind a romance, so I like to be able to experience that. Jack has a huge portion of hers in a romance for example. 

 

In Mass Effect the culmination of the romance acts as something of an emotional climax for the games (no pun intended). Somehow, the games feel empty without that scene.

 

In DA:O I always have trouble connecting with the unvoiced Warden - a romance helps to ground them, and make them feel like an actual part of the game. 

 

In DA2 there's enough variety in the way the relationships can play out that there's almost always one that fits the type of Hawke I'm playing - or really brings the drama, in a good way.

 

I can't imagine this changing for DAI. I do have a strong preference for s/s relationships, and those will continue to have support, so I'm looking forward to seeing what they have to offer. That said, I also like playing the odd races, which makes for strange couplings. Dwarves in any pairing in DAO always seemed a little off. Depending on who is available for who, pairing a male qunari with most of the cast is going to be a little incongruous.



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Bioware is the only game compny that does this with any depth.  Its like the only ice cream shop to add the whip cream and cherry. 

 

 

And then there are the times the cherry is rotten and the whip cream is shaving cream.

 

In perfect and frank honesty, I think ME2 MaleShep had the worst romantic themes and undertones of any Bioware game I've played. Shepard already deals with the incredibly poor leadership of sleeping around in the squad, but ME2 went places I'd call downright sexist.



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My "canon" Warden/Hawke romanced no one, so, yeah. Probably.



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My Hawke didn't really commit to anything but did frequent the Blooming Rose.

 

Does that count?


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#89
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I might have my canon Inquisitor go the nomance route.

 

Of the three companion companion characters one is unavailable and the other two I don't find particularly attractive. Still undecided on whether I'll go the nomance route or have the Inquisitor go with one of those two if I find their dialogue/personalities interesting. A dutybound character who is all work and no play could be kind of interesting too.



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Well, even odds are that I'm going to be forced into this situation against my will.



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Chances are looking up that this'll be my femquizzy XD ah well.



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Both my main playthroughs are like this (DAO and DA2), but i'm getting tired of warrior monks and nuns. I need something different. I just hope I'm not blocked from more options. I only have so many character concepts in my head for the Inquisitor.



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I completely failed to notice that there were romances when I played Jade Empire, and I was still entertained by that game, so that's one point for that.

 

I've done a few no-romance playthroughs when I actually knew it was a possibility as well (my third runs of ME and ME2) although mostly to see it and contrast the content with the romanced version.  Always did romances in DAO and ME3 though, just because I wanted to see how the content differed.  And I actually had two semi-non-romanced runs of DA2 as well - semi, because my Hawke got together with Isabela in one and Fenris in the other, but I'd not picked the right conversation options to have the endgame romance dialogue on either of them, so I suppose those were failed relationships or something which is amusing, so yeah - still fun.



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Taking companion relationships to the romantic level has its appeal to me, but I don't romance someone if it makes no sense for my character. I don't find it necessary.

Back when I played DA:O, ME1, and ME2 I still didn't apply roleplaying and just self-inserted my personality into my characters.

 

So naturally I didn't romance anyone since there were no actual S/S romances besides Zevran and he wasn't that appealing to me. Does that count? :P

 

 

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Although I didnt eventually go for Jack in ME2 and Morrigan in DAO because I found them very interesting and quite attractive (for women, at least hehe)



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Well, even odds are that I'm going to be forced into this situation against my will.

 

Forced?  If you choose to play the game by only doing the romances that are your personal favourites, that's fair (and I get being disappointed by the choices), but that's hardly being forced to do something against your will.  If anything it's exercising your will.



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Forced?  If you choose to play the game by only doing the romances that are your personal favourites, that's fair (and I get being disappointed by the choices), but that's hardly being forced to do something against your will.  If anything it's exercising your will.


Race restrictions seems to be in, and there's the possibility some race/gender/sexuality combo might not have a romance available.
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I used to always do romances.  I used to feel it was like another quest, and you have done a better job at the game by completing it.  

 

Now I never do. Just seems to me like a thin veil in order to stick a sex scene in a game.  Regardless, I have a hard time calling it a "romance."  And I feel its my duty to stay objective when it comes to saving the world/universe.

 

NWN did the option exist?  Jade Empire: Dawn Star was boring, probably hurt the game for me in the end.  KOTOR: Bastila's was good in hindsight.  DAO: only for curiosity, not enjoyed.  ME1:  I regret it.  DA2/ME2:   all available NPC's are jerks, murderers, overly sexualized, or under sexualized I suppose in Merrill's case.  never.  

 

ME3 - there were nomances/friendmances present with Garrus, and probably others.   Extremely satisfied with no romance.  Not as involved as a "romance" and not sure if nomance exclusive, but still...



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I used to always do romances.  I used to feel it was like another quest, and you have done a better job at the game by completing it.  

 

Now I never do. Just seems to me like a thin veil in order to stick a sex scene in a game.  Regardless, I have a hard time calling it a "romance."  And I feel its my duty to stay objective when it comes to saving the world/universe.

 

NWN did the option exist?  Jade Empire: Dawn Star was boring, probably hurt the game for me in the end.  KOTOR: Bastila's was good in hindsight.  DAO: only for curiosity, not enjoyed.  ME1:  I regret it.  DA2/ME2:   all available NPC's are jerks, murderers, overly sexualized, or under sexualized I suppose in Merrill's case.  never.  

 

ME3 - there were nomances/friendmances present with Garrus, and probably others.   Extremely satisfied with no romance.  Not as involved as a "romance" and not sure if nomance exclusive, but still...

 

In the case of Mass Effect, I believe the romances with the Mass Effect 1 characters felt the most complete and added a lot of depth to the overall story arc.



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Race restrictions seems to be in, and there's the possibility some race/gender/sexuality combo might not have a romance available.

 

Eh, not having your desired romance available isn't the same as having none at all available, and given what we've heard so far, I have my doubts that that's happening.  I suppose it's possible that a Dwarf or Qunari might be left 100% without options, but most of the "I'll be forced" complaints I've seen are actually complaining that some specific character might not be available.



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I like ME2's romances and characters in general. That was the last BW game I think I had real emotional investment in (unfortunately all the "new" me2 characters' roles sucked in me3). Before that, Kotor was pretty good. I think it's hit n miss otherwise. I've enjoyed their games without it.. but I'm always open to trying again. It boils down to the characters. Not the feature itself.