I just talked to Wreav and when Shepard asked if the Rite of Passage would fix Grunt's problem, Wreav responded that it wouldn't, that Grunt was just being a Krogan. Wrex says more or less the same thing. So why does he need to undergo the Rite if it is not going to fix anything? I am not getting the leap between calling this a puberty ritual, Grunt feeling disoriented, and needing to join a clan, if he is going to feel the same way whether he undergoes the rite or not.
You can say it's more like instinct. Krogans separate themselves into clans, and with Grunt being clan-less and no one to teach him the ways of the krogan's, he feels lost and out of place with no actual meaning to his life. The Rite of Passage allows one to seek clan status and all the privileges that come with it. So yes, there is a reason to the rite, and because krogan's live in a harsh environment it is reasonable that the rite itself be harsh as well. If one cannot succeed in their rite, they are seen as unfit and liability that will weaken the clan.
Before one can join a clan of the krogan the rite must be completed. It's a rite of passage from adolescents to adult hood and when a Krogan male truly becomes a warrior.
Grunt is probably the greatest krogan warrior in the entire verse to be honest. Even better than Wrex probably. Probably.
You'd think they could've just taken him to omega and gotten him some Asari strippers.
I shall quote the Shaman, because he's like a god!
"Tuchanka is a place of great gifts. It kills the weak, torments the slow, and destroys the stupid. Survival is an honor, and here, krogan thrive!"
I shall quote the Shaman, because he's like a god!
"Tuchanka is a place of great gifts. It kills the weak, torments the slow, and destroys the stupid. Survival is an honor, and here, krogan thrive!"
Well Tuchanka does kill the weak and tormet the slow but apprently does not destroy the stupid at all considering that I have seen octopuses smarter than the average Krogan. In addition Treshermaws live there and those are basically mindless monsters that do nothing but eat their entire life.
In short: that shaman if full of it.
Eh it helped Grunt focus and figure out what it was to be Krogan and it let Shepard act like a Krogan. Seriously who doesn't headbutt Uvenk? The mission itself while it may not have been the most relevant did give alot of incite to Krogan customs and culture, besides it was just plain fun.
Eh it helped Grunt focus and figure out what it was to be Krogan and it let Shepard act like a Krogan. Seriously who doesn't headbutt Uvenk? The mission itself while it may not have been the most relevant did give alot of incite to Krogan customs and culture, besides it was just plain fun.
The one part of the mission I really like is trying to get those last 3000 credits. Getting past Uvenk to get to them is always a bit of a challenge.
The part I hate is Grunt doing his Mira imitation:
Grunt: "Trigger the keystone, Shepard"
Shepard: "Shut up Grunt before I decide to feed you to the Thresher Maw."
Well Tuchanka does kill the weak and tormet the slow but apprently does not destroy the stupid at all considering that I have seen octopuses smarter than the average Krogan. In addition Treshermaws live there and those are basically mindless monsters that do nothing but eat their entire life.
In short: that shaman if full of it.
I think it's the context of it that counts, not the raw meaning of it. Krogans are survivors, and if you are not a survivor, you will die on Tuchanka.
Grunt's problem was that something he was seeing as his problem, actually wasn't a problem.
So there was nothing to easily 'fix'. ...Except Grunt's perception of his state.
Through embracing the fight for survival, he taps into the core biological motivation for every Krogan. On the Normandy he is extra safe and he doesn't like that. It breeds 'weakness'. Every second he is not training against a real enemy, is a second that he may not be prepared for stronger opposition.
The krogan must always have *some* enemy to fight, even to a minor degree, unless we want to genetically change them. And Okeer certainly did not change this trait for Grunt, but if anything emphasized it.
While acceptance from other krogan is nice and all (and Grunt embraces it in ME3), what Grunt is looking for is the abstract permission to do the violence he does. With the Rite of Passage, he gets that.
The lesson of the mission was that 'sometimes you gotta roar'. Instincts when honed and trained can sometimes empower you to do exactly what must be done, even if you don't intellectually understand it. In fact, understanding it emotionally will give a far more visceral understanding than anything academic. That's what Grunt experiences. He is now truly Krogan. For better or worse.
This carries on in ME3, where Grunt takes his fight for survival to heart and never, ever, ever gives up against the horde of rachni. And he survives to fight another day. Sadly, off-screen.
Shepard can also take this fight for survival to heart in his future decision making.*
*For the record, I think pretty much every henchman carries lessons in their stories, and not all of them outright focus on something like, say, Breath Destroy. For example, I'd consider Samara to give Control lessons, and Thane to give Synthesis lessons, even while both might still advice you to Destroy. Grunt is just a more basic character, to more directly carry the ideas of war, strength, competition, survival, etc., stuff that Shepard's own main story is also about.
TLDR; The problem is that he isn't embracing his 'problem'. That he is supposed to accept and utilize his 'flaws' (being always on edge against an enemy/danger to survive against), instead of push them away.
Therefore there is no problem. Grunt fights, kills/survives against that large thresher maw (one of the strongest organic beings in the MEU) with you, celebrates, and is all like "Hey, I'm good!"
Everytime if do this mission, this jumps into my mind: (totally topic relevant!)
Pubescent Humans (and Asari) 'rebel' against their family, Krogans fight with giant one eyed snakes...
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