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Viable plots for the next game for each ending.


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As this very moment from what we know and assume, the Next game will try to distances itself as far away from ME3 as possible. But of course there is always a possibility that we are thrown a curve ball and we find out that there will be some sort of connection to the endings.

 

So I ask this. What sort of viable plots can be forged for each ending? I mean Destroy is easy enough just some guy or gal tooling around in a Galaxy without synthetics dealing with other problems..

 

But my question to those with Control and Synthesis in mind, what sort of story can you create that can grab the player's attention?

 

If I'm missing something please help me out, but really. Look at Control for either the Renegade or Paragon Endings. We still have Reapers around who remain as protectors or enforcers of peace.The only real plot I see is A.I. Shepard going rogue, and we have the Reapers all over again, making it repetitive. And if it doesn't go that route. The Reapers will take care of any threat that may pop out.

 

And then there is Synthesis. Everything is green and they all share a connection. Galactic peace and all that Jazz. The only real plot I see is that they turn us into villains and we go around assimilating people or killing who resist. Not exactly a feel good game if I'm fully honest, but once again If I'm missing a larger picture here feel free to point it out.

 

I don't really bother to mention refusal for the obvious reason totally new aliens were are playing as and it's just the Reapers all over again.

 



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For endings that have reapers still existing, there would be no choice but to have the story be beyond their reach, some smaller scale threat that couldn't possibly be solved with giant killbots. I can only imagine the outrage if the Control ending had the Shepard AI decide to turn on the galaxy, regardless of whether or not it was Paragon or Renegade.



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There are problems that can't be solved with giant killbots? 

 

*revises his 5 year plan accordingly* Miniature killbots added... 


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Just for giggles.

 

Control:  People grow sick and tired of the police-state imposed by the Shepalyst.  Either Renegade is too restrictive and human/centric, or paragon Shep imposes way to much of a nanny-state.  Either way, people move out to the lawless terminus to escape the reach of the reaper overlord.  All the while, various resistance groups plot to overthrow the Shepalyst once and for all, needing a team of experts to be assembled to infiltrate the Citadel and destroy the overlord. At the end of the game, you either side with them and kill the reaper AI, or you join the shepalyst.

 

Synthesis:  Sure connecting with everyone is cool and all, but what happens to privacy?  As some synthesis bots learn more about the connection they share, some have figured out how to hack into other sentient being's minds and control them completely.  These gifted individuals soon take control of the galaxy and rule from the shadows, leaving it up to the hero, who figures out how to disconnect from the synthesis network, to build a team and take them down.



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Control ending can easily be set after the Reapers mysteriously left the galaxy. I doubt many people who picked Control would mind that. At that point, anything that worked for a Destroy sequel would probably fit into a Control sequel as well.

 

Synthesis is a bit more tricky, since it's such a radical change, but Synthesis isn't the happy-fun-everything's-peaceful ending you describe it as. It's just an ending where Organics and Synthetics have been placed on an equal footing. I could see some interesting gameplay mechanics springing out of that.



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Synthesis is a bit more tricky, since it's such a radical change, but Synthesis isn't the happy-fun-everything's-peaceful ending you describe it as. It's just an ending where Organics and Synthetics have been placed on an equal footing. I could see some interesting gameplay mechanics springing out of that.

 

Maybe so...But what conflicts can you see brew from a Synthesized Galaxy? A clash of opinion of where they should go now? You need a solid base for this sort of thing. Hence I see little to be done with a Synthesis galaxy short from either making us the Bad guys and going around and making people as we are or killing them....Or a civil war between two or more ideologies to embrace now that we have reached Synthesis. Something like learning to coexist with full synthetic and organic beings from other galaxies or bringing them into the fold forcefully.



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Control ending: someone creates miniature synthetics that kill reapers, interferes with his/her ability to watch over the many, and threatens galactic stability. Shepalyst dispatches a new Spectre to find out who it is and bring them to justice.

 

Synthesis: six teenagers in the Large Magellenic Cloud make their way into our galaxy and hack into the minds of the galactic collective intelligence, stealing everyone's ID, creating massive credit fraud, and causing the collapse of the financial system.



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I don't think any of the endings will be discernable from each other, except maybe from whatever Codex entry they add if you import something.


People will have syntesis, and no that doesn't mean hivemidn with free acces to surf other peoples minds. It means "options".

See it as a technological variant of the Asari mindmeld, but possibly with the ability to do it over a greater distance. Also, you get a built in Iphone and extranet access(assuming you arn't out of range or being blocked).

I don't think it will change that much, people will still be people. It does however remove the AI superiority at information transfer. Now anyone "can" do it if they wish to do so. Some might choose not to, like EDI, who was kind of restrictive about who she was linking up to (Ahem, Legion, sorry but it seems she isn't available).

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I don't think any of the endings will be discernable from each other, except maybe from whatever Codex entry they add if you import something.


People will have syntesis, and no that doesn't mean hivemidn with free acces to surf other peoples minds. It means "options".

See it as a technological variant of the Asari mindmeld, but possibly with the ability to do it over a greater distance. Also, you get a built in Iphone and extranet access(assuming you arn't out of range or being blocked).

I don't think it will change that much, people will still be people. It does however remove the AI superiority at information transfer. Now anyone "can" do it if they wish to do so. Some might choose not to, like EDI, who was kind of restrictive about who she was linking up to (Ahem, Legion, sorry but it seems she isn't available).

 

But how would that make sense? You have a conflict in a control galaxy, but you don't have Reapers to deal with the problem. So then either you have a conflict that isn't all that important, or questions raised to what the Reapers are doing when this is happening, considering any form of significant should have the Reaper's attention if they are in fact the keepers of the peace.



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You really shouldn't be assuming the next plot would be a continuation of loose ends in the last one in the first place.



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You really shouldn't be assuming the next plot would be a continuation of loose ends in the last one in the first place.

 

Never did assume. I just allow for all possibilities to be valid until we know what is concrete.



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Because of how ME3 ends, BioWare set it up in the way where they can't canon anything. By headcanoning Destroy can make a lot of other fans angry.



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Because of how ME3 ends, BioWare set it up in the way where they can't canon anything. By headcanoning Destroy can make a lot of other fans angry.

 

Pretty much anything they do is going to make a lot of people angry.
 



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Pretty much anything they do is going to make a lot of people angry.
 

In a sense, but you can't satisfy everyone. The only thing I want in the "New" Mass Effect is the return of the aliens within the Shepard universe, not the characters.



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Yeah...that's pretty much what I just said...you can't satisfy everyone...



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"Synthesis is inevitable". How trollish would it be to set a sequel 1,000 years in the future where the galaxy either willingly decides to go the synthesis route in Destroy/Control (albeit without the Crucible), or is already synthesized because of the Crucible. The galaxy is identical in all three scenarios, for gameplay and story purposes. The ME3 ending choice is handwaved away and rendered irrelevant, briefly explained with dialogue in the opening scene.

Lol. So many people would be pissed. The nerdrage would be glorious.

Seriously though, I think that it is most probable that ME4 will be a sequel, and they will probably just canonize destroy. That is the most simple, and most popular route to go.

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I figure it's going to be something that they can put out for each of the endings of the trilogy. So my suggestion is to go for a smaller scale - not a galactic threat but maybe some kind of relic hunt (in the Indiana Jones model), or a personalized threat against the protagonist. Instead of being 'it's the Reapers, BUT WORSE!' it's about something that is smaller in its scale of importance to the rest of the galaxy. Given that Control and Synthesis leave the Reapers as potentially working as protectors/gatekeepers/guardians, it seems that they're a big 'I-win' button for any conflict on a galactic scale. And a plotline about the Reapers going offline or something would probably be a really major thing, with nothing directly equivalent in a Destroy version, so it's just an awkward thing to deal with. If it can be side-stepped, why not?



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. Instead of being 'it's the Reapers, BUT WORSE!'

:lol:

Just had the thought of that one Family Guy skit Jaw and Bigger jaws.



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If a synthesis ending is chosen in ME3, I would first like to see the removal of the glowing green eyes, and circuit-board skin... on clothing? There's gotta be a better way. 

 

Second, I would like to see it take place several hundred years after ME3. That way all the galaxy repair has taken place and things are flourishing again. And the novelty has worn off all the "hippy love-in" stuff. The geth and quarians have figured out how to live with one another on Rannoch, and are co-operating in studying dark energy. The salarians have continued to be salarians, and their scientific research and knowledge gain is rising near exponentially, and being used for all sorts of things, financial gain, political alliance... mainly just power.

 

Tuchanka is much further along the road to restoration, and the krogan population has re-stabilized after the war. The synthesis effect has lengthened the time between prenancies, and lowered the number of krogan born at a time, normalizing their reproduction rate somewhat. Under Wrex and Bakara's rule the clans are now all Urdnot, though individual clan traditions are still observed. Bakara's teachings and wisdom has become a religion, and her followers spread her teachings to anyone who will listen. But Tuchanka is still becoming crowded. 

 

The turians maintain a strong military force, because it's in their blood, it's what they do. Duty and Honor have taken on a greater signifance for the turians. It's how they rebuilt their home - and their armies -  so quickly. In the beginning of the reaper war aftermath, it's how they cope with the reduced numbers of their population, which in turn caused them to withdraw to their home system, and setting up "customs" blockades around all the relays leading there. The turians have become xenophobes.  

 

The asari had also withdrawn to Thessia to try and rebuild, and although they have begun to venture out into the galaxy again, they're still struggling with finding an identity in the new galactic community. Interacting with them is rare, or at least uncommon outside of, say the Citadel or a planet like Ilium.  

 

The other species have gone back to being themselves too; The Volus restored the galaxy's economic system in record time and have taken the asari seat on the Council. The turians maintain a seat, but their councilor is dismissive of most everybody, and increases tensions wherever he goes, whoever he talks to. The salarians maintain a seat, and now are viewed as the peacemakers, mostly because of the influence they have. 

 

But the humans are unofficial leaders of the council, their voice to the galactic community. The citadel has remained in orbit around Earth, and humanity is the dominant species in the galaxy. The memory of Shepard still commands that much respect. But the initial population decrease from the war and the synthesis effect of increasing lifespan has reduced the human galactic population significantly, but not nearly so much as other species. Military strength has also decreased, and diplomacy and trade have become better strengths for the humans.  

 

The reapers, from Harby to husks, and the surviving Leviathans, have set off into deep space exploration, sending back regular reports of progress through deep space. it's been an uneventful 500 or so years. 

 

And there you have it. From that I'd like to see tensions rise over initial disputes about resources. Eezo still has to be found. Maybe skirmishes on Eezo mining planets develop into major battles from time to time. Maybe the turians destroy a diplomacy ship on its way to Palaven over some code violation. Tensions rise. Maybe the salarians are getting close to some scientific breakthrough that will enable a major play for political power. 

 

Anyway I'm kinda rambling here, but I'd love to see something like that for the next game, if it must be synthesis. 


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@Sporkfu

 

Not a bad idea. But I would question the wisdom of having the Reapers be gone from the Galaxy exploring. Would they leave some behind to make sure things are kept orderly?



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@Sporkfu

 

Not a bad idea. But I would question the wisdom of having the Reapers be gone from the Galaxy exploring. Would they leave some behind to make sure things are kept orderly?

Perhaps. Maybe they don't all have to go, like a volunteer thing. I just kinda thought that after a few hundred years they would need a new purpose; one that doesn't get them involved in galactic conflicts anymore. And it's a good way to remove both them and the Leviathan as a plot device, which was my main idea. 



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I don't mind the Leviathans being an enemy, I just wouldn't want them to be the main enemy. We've already met them, we already understand them, it wouldn't exactly be a big reveal or a captivating story element. I wouldn't mind fighting Leviathan-controlled forces or something as a side enemy though.

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But the humans are unofficial leaders of the council, their voice to the galactic community. The citadel has remained in orbit around Earth, and humanity is the dominant species in the galaxy. The memory of Shepard still commands that much respect. But the initial population decrease from the war and the synthesis effect of increasing lifespan has reduced the human galactic population significantly, but not nearly so much as other species. Military strength has also decreased, and diplomacy and trade have become better strengths for the humans.  

 

No. Quite frankly, the trilogy capitalized on the whole "humanity's special" aspect too much as it is. To see something like this happen... I won't say something like "I'd never buy a game like this!", because that ain't true.

 

But seriously, enough is enough.

 

Other than that, your ideas sound cool.



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No. Quite frankly, the trilogy capitalized on the whole "humanity's special" aspect too much as it is. To see something like this happen... I won't say something like "I'd never buy a game like this!", because that ain't true.

But seriously, enough is enough.

Other than that, your ideas sound cool.


I agree. A story that rejects an anthropocentric viewpoint in favor of the diversity of life would be nice.
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No. Quite frankly, the trilogy capitalized on the whole "humanity's special" aspect too much as it is. To see something like this happen... I won't say something like "I'd never buy a game like this!", because that ain't true.

 

But seriously, enough is enough.

 

Other than that, your ideas sound cool.

That's fair, and I was just kinda spit-balling what to do with humanity. I figure some recognition -- in terms of power, influence, goodwill -- should still remain because Shepard.