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[KainD]

Even if you dislike the way femhawke walks for instance, you can still find real women who walk the same way.

I can also find real men that walk that way. And find real women that walk like male Hawke.

[Nefla]

Depends whether its the middle ground between the  extremes of RL female or male walks. Or the middle ground between how a male and female walks.

 

Even if you dislike the way femhawke walks for instance, you can still find real women who walk the same way.

Anyone who walks like lady Hawke is doing it consciously to be sexy/sassy. It's a runway walk and not natural or efficient. I work in a grocery store, and this thread has made me take notice of people's walks for the last few days. Out of the large number of people I've been casually observing, 2 women and 1 man (which surprised me) walked like lady Hawke (but even then to a lesser degree). None of the three were in plate armor, trekking through the woods, running at an enemy in combat, etc...as much as I like her walk for certain things (being fancy with some nobles, etc...)I would rather have a neutral walk that looks natural. Though if I had to choose between lady Hawke and Femshep I'd pick the model sashay.

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What is "acting like a lady" ?

Which also begs the question: what is "acting like a man" ?

 

Femshep and the skirt is an unfortunate consequence of an animation made without (and in fact, before) that particular outfit in mind, otherwise, there's nothing really wrong with it.

 

You could make a point that animations were ported from Maleshep to Femshep and thus the intent is male-orientated, but if they should go out of their way to create "female-specific animations", then on what basis should those be made ?

 

That's pretty easy, motion capture a female actor?
 

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I can also find real men that walk that way. And find real women that walk like male Hawke.

 

Mocap this man for the Male inquisitor.

 

 

Anyway though, as long as you have separate male and female animations acted out by their respective genders, no one could argue she doesn't move like a woman, when, in fact, that's what actually happened.

[robertthebard]

This is the BSN, a British actor was once called down for overplaying his accent, while speaking naturally.

[AkiKishi]

I was looking at various mocap stuff on youtube. It's very umm detailed. 

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As for the sitting, if there are absolutely no skirts in game then fine. Otherwise it's just, rude, you know? Forget the feminist huah nonsense, it's like putting your legs on the table or burping loudly, same deal if a man exposes himself.

 

I mean like what, when/if you lot have daughters you're not going to teach her how to sit properly in a skirt? Fight the power honey!

[KainD]

I mean like what, when/if you lot have daughters you're not going to teach her how to sit properly in a skirt? Fight the power honey!

Not buying my daughter a single skirt if I ever have one. She can start buying those when she has her own money. Lol

[General TSAR]

This is the BSN, a British actor was once called down for overplaying his accent, while speaking naturally.

Are you serious? Good Lord.

[HuldraDancer]

As for the sitting, if there are absolutely no skirts in game then fine. Otherwise it's just, rude, you know? Forget the feminist huah nonsense, it's like putting your legs on the table or burping loudly, same deal if a man exposes himself.

 

I mean like what, when/if you lot have daughters you're not going to teach her how to sit properly in a skirt? Fight the power honey!

 

I always though the point of sitting with your legs close in a skirt was to keep other people from looking up it like those people that would take video up ladies skirts I think it was called 'up skirting' otherwise if your legs are under a table no ones going to see if they are crossed (which crossing never made sense to me since you showing more having to more your legs to cross and uncross them) or if they are together, though if there isn't a table then yeah you should keep your legs together in a skirt since it is good manners and the off chance there's an up skirter around.

 

Kind of on topicish: But I don't think this is going to be a problem in DAI closest things to skirt we've seen in the other games is robes and some of the lighter armor and I assume the lighter armor has something under it for more protection or to keep out the cold at the very least. As for the walking I'd rather not have a Female Hawke or Female Shepard again please they are both bad examples something in the middle would be wonderful I know some people like the idea of sashaying around but I do not just looks painful to me and silly if your in a hurry even people that strut like that wouldn't do so when say running to get someone out of a fire or running for their life or something like that.

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Not buying my daughter a single skirt if I ever have one. She can start buying those when she has her own money. Lol

er, school uniforms man

[tmp7704]

That's pretty easy, motion capture a female actor?

Not only each actor is given to have her own walk which may or may not people ideas of what it should look like, the person's walk can also vary depending on number of factors (whether they're observed or not, what they think they should walk like, etc)

In other words it's far from that easy.

[KainD]

er, school uniforms man

1) We don't have school uniforms in my country.
2) As far as I know girls have the choice to wear uniform pants instead of a skirt where they have uniforms.

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Not only each actor is given to have her own walk which may or may not people ideas of what it should look like, the person's walk can also vary depending on number of factors (whether they're observed or not, what they think they should walk like, etc)

In other words it's far from that easy.

I'm not saying you can please everyone, just that that's all you need to do to satisfy that description. I follow up in the next post.

[AkiKishi]

1) We don't have school uniforms in my country.
2) As far as I know girls have the choice to wear uniform pants instead of a skirt where they have uniforms.

 

Depends on the school, but not the one my daughter attends. They can wear wool tights in the winter. Knowing how to act in a skirt would be an important part of her upbringing though, even if she later decides not to wear skirts.

 

Etiquette and skirt defence (ie being aware of skirt flippers and peepers).

[KainD]

Depends on the school, but not the one my daughter attends. They can wear wool tights in the winter. Knowing how to act in a skirt would be an important part of her upbringing though, even if she later decides not to wear skirts.

Etiquette and skirt defence (ie being aware of skirt flippers and peepers).

Well then I would have to find the right school won't I?

I don't think that learning how to act in a skirt is important part of upbringing. If she wants to do that, she can learn herself.

[AkiKishi]

Well then I would have to find the right school won't I?

I don't think that learning how to act in a skirt is important part of upbringing. If she wants to do that, she can learn herself.

 

We kind of look at it from the opposite direction. The more the children conform ,the better it is for them. If they choose to go off and do their own thing its something that is better done once you are outside of mandatory education.Until that time, they are going to be attending various events where a certain level of behaviour is expected. Once they go to college , that's not longer the case and they can take responsibility for themselves.

 

My partner is a teacher so I kind of defer to her on this matter.

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Depends on the school, but not the one my daughter attends. They can wear wool tights in the winter. Knowing how to act in a skirt would be an important part of her upbringing though, even if she later decides not to wear skirts.

 

Etiquette and skirt defence (ie being aware of skirt flippers and peepers).

and yea even if, I'm not going to force her to be the only one wearing trousers just cause of that. (whatever "that" even is?)

[HuldraDancer]

Honestly it would be (in my opinion of course) best if kids have some say in what they wear if they rather dressed more stylish or comfortable then they should get a say in it, I know I really resented my grandmother while growing up cause she would make me dress in clothes I hated and threw away all the ones I loved and still tries to do that now. They shouldn't get total control over it but at the very least have a say don't you think? Extreme on either side is still an extreme after all.

[KainD]

We kind of look at it from the opposite direction. The more the children conform ,the better it is for them. If they choose to go off and do their own thing its something that is better done once you are outside of mandatory education.

My partner is a teacher so I kind of defer to her on this matter.

There are just things a person can dislike, and they can have the right to share those views with their children. I don't have a problem with my future kids doing what they want with their life once they are out of the nest, but I wont support some things while they still rely on me financially, if I personally don't like it.

[AkiKishi]

Honestly it would be (in my opinion of course) best if kids have some say in what they wear if they rather dressed more stylish or comfortable then they should get a say in it, I know I really resented my grandmother while growing up cause she would make me dress in clothes I hated and threw away all the ones I loved and still tries to do that now. They shouldn't get total control over it but at the very least have a say don't you think? Extreme on either side is still an extreme after all.

 

I agree with that, but there are places where yo don't have a say. School and social functions being the obvious ones. I hate wearing suits, but I will still wear one when the situation demands and I'll impress the same on my son. 

 

What they wear casually is a different matter unless its really inapropriate.

[KainD]

I agree with that, but there are places where yo don't have a say. School and social functions being the obvious ones. I hate wearing suits, but I will still wear one when the situation demands and I'll impress the same on my son.

What they wear casually is a different matter unless its really inapropriate.

Wearing pants instead of a skirt is hardly something that will upset the society.

[HuldraDancer]

I agree with that, but there are places where yo don't have a say. School and social functions being the obvious ones. I hate wearing suits, but I will still wear one when the situation demands and I'll impress the same on my son. 

 

What they wear casually is a different matter unless its really inapropriate.

 

That's why I said some say for example I dislike wearing skirts and dresses and heels mostly because I can not walk in them without falling down and I had to go to a wedding with my mother before we were able to compromise with flat dress shoes a skirt and a dress top. I get that uniforms that you can't get a say on really or social events but there is compromise sometimes key word sometimes. Though I was mostly talking about casual wear in my original post.

[HuldraDancer]

Wearing pants instead of a skirt is hardly something that will upset the society.

 

I think they were referring to things like weddings or going out to places that have dress codes on them like some restaurants still do.

[AkiKishi]

Wearing pants instead of a skirt is hardly something that will upset the society.

 

If we sent our daughter to school in trousers she would get sent home. There are places where a certain manner of dress (and manner) is expected, avoiding that to make some sort of statement I think would just make like harder for a child since unlike an adult making a choice, they don't have any power.