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#26
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A few points:

1 - I would love to be wrong. I do enjoy the DA series and want to learn more about DAI, but I was always a bigger Sci-Fi than Fantasy fan. I want to learn more about MENext (to see if what I knew when I left is going to actually make it into the game), I just don't think it will be this year.

 

2 - Timing did change under EA. This is not a bad thing, it is just a different thing. When BioWare was independant or under Elevation, they had more self control. Now, it is more of a balance game with other EA games to ensure a publicly traded company remains financially viable (BioWare always strove to be viable, it just didn't answer to stock holders). So what happened with JE-ME-DAO-ME2-DA2-ME3-DAI is not the same schedule anymore. There is also a new studio handling a lot of the MENext work, which will change timing as well (plus or minus). Lots of timing changes since the old days.

 

3 - "or the PC port was so secret even he didn't know about it." Yep, that was the case. I always strove to tell the truth, but it isn't like I was a Casey Hudson or Mike Laidlaw or anything. Sure I learned stuff before many other staff and before fans, but I learned of game developments and changes when I needed to be able to do my job. That did not always give me a lot of time. You remember that example, but I can remember far more when I said "the thing (video, update, etc) will be ready at X o'clock" only to have that change with hours or minutes notice. It happens. Fans are ever so forgiving when it does.

 

4 - Secrecy has always been very important to BioWare, but if anything, it has become more transparent under EA (hard to believe I know, but it really had). Aaryn Flynn the studio GM is a big proponent on being open and honest with fans. That does not mean he wants to blab about everything. There is a time and place for things, but he has always been very receptive to open communication. That is why staff on DA tweet as much as they do during meetings, E3 prep, etc. (maybe MENext staff will as well, time will tell). BioWare is secretive because, given its lengthy history, BioWare has a lot of fans with expectations of product. And I KNOW that BioWare fans overreact (for good and for bad) when they partially hear news. ME3 left a bad impression on some gamers with the ending controversy. However, BioWare and EA believe that ME can and should be a major franchise with hopefully more games & products in the future. For vague MENext info to come out without information to back it up would only a) make some fans get the wrong impression of the game only to be later disappointed as it doesn't live up to what they imagined it meant; or b ) make some fans get the wrong impression of the game and tune out and not listen for the actual news when it is released.

 

This is why I dont think MENext will be at E3 this year. I hope BioWare blows the roof off E3 (or PAX, N7 Day, wherever) when they actually announce it. To release a teaser does it an injustice as hardcore fans are already waiting for what is coming and casual fans need to be wowed and informed.

 

Still, only a week left. Then we'll see. :)

 

 

 

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I see no reason why we can't get at least a teaser at e3. It's not like we're going to forget Dragon Age's existence. 



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I'm probably getting my hopes up for nothing, but I'm expecting the CGI trailer to be released at e3, but I'm not expecting more than a vague trailer that just shows the name/setting. I'm not expecting anything like gameplay or like a 15 minute showcase of the game or anything. I hope I'm right, but I'm probably not.

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This is why I dont think MENext will be at E3 this year. I hope BioWare blows the roof off E3 (or PAX, N7 Day, wherever) when they actually announce it. To release a teaser does it an injustice as hardcore fans are already waiting for what is coming and casual fans need to be wowed and informed.

 

Still, only a week left. Then we'll see. :)

 

 

 

:devil:

 

I really don't see a need to talk about ME:Next at this point unless it's a late 2014 game on the schedule, which I doubt. At this point, so many games have been moved to 2015 that being added to that list really doesn't have a benefit.

 

I could see an announcement/confirmation of a PS4/Xbox1 port of the old games, if it truly exists, especially if they will pull in old saves, but only from current generations.



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A few points:

1 - I would love to be wrong. I do enjoy the DA series and want to learn more about DAI, but I was always a bigger Sci-Fi than Fantasy fan. I want to learn more about MENext (to see if what I knew when I left is going to actually make it into the game), I just don't think it will be this year.

 

2 - Timing did change under EA. This is not a bad thing, it is just a different thing. When BioWare was independant or under Elevation, they had more self control. Now, it is more of a balance game with other EA games to ensure a publicly traded company remains financially viable (BioWare always strove to be viable, it just didn't answer to stock holders). So what happened with JE-ME-DAO-ME2-DA2-ME3-DAI is not the same schedule anymore. There is also a new studio handling a lot of the MENext work, which will change timing as well (plus or minus). Lots of timing changes since the old days.

 

3 - "or the PC port was so secret even he didn't know about it." Yep, that was the case. I always strove to tell the truth, but it isn't like I was a Casey Hudson or Mike Laidlaw or anything. Sure I learned stuff before many other staff and before fans, but I learned of game developments and changes when I needed to be able to do my job. That did not always give me a lot of time. You remember that example, but I can remember far more when I said "the thing (video, update, etc) will be ready at X o'clock" only to have that change with hours or minutes notice. It happens. Fans are ever so forgiving when it does.

 

4 - Secrecy has always been very important to BioWare, but if anything, it has become more transparent under EA (hard to believe I know, but it really had). Aaryn Flynn the studio GM is a big proponent on being open and honest with fans. That does not mean he wants to blab about everything. There is a time and place for things, but he has always been very receptive to open communication. That is why staff on DA tweet as much as they do during meetings, E3 prep, etc. (maybe MENext staff will as well, time will tell). BioWare is secretive because, given its lengthy history, BioWare has a lot of fans with expectations of product. And I KNOW that BioWare fans overreact (for good and for bad) when they partially hear news. ME3 left a bad impression on some gamers with the ending controversy. However, BioWare and EA believe that ME can and should be a major franchise with hopefully more games & products in the future. For vague MENext info to come out without information to back it up would only a) make some fans get the wrong impression of the game only to be later disappointed as it doesn't live up to what they imagined it meant; or b ) make some fans get the wrong impression of the game and tune out and not listen for the actual news when it is released.

 

This is why I dont think MENext will be at E3 this year. I hope BioWare blows the roof off E3 (or PAX, N7 Day, wherever) when they actually announce it. To release a teaser does it an injustice as hardcore fans are already waiting for what is coming and casual fans need to be wowed and informed.

 

Still, only a week left. Then we'll see. :)

 

 

 

:devil:

 

Guess you're wrong.



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Well, I just heard that some concept art was shown at the E3 presentation. Haven't seen any of it though, but I'm sure screenies will be all over google images in no time.



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A few points:

1 - I would love to be wrong. I do enjoy the DA series and want to learn more about DAI, but I was always a bigger Sci-Fi than Fantasy fan. I want to learn more about MENext (to see if what I knew when I left is going to actually make it into the game), I just don't think it will be this year.

 

2 - Timing did change under EA. This is not a bad thing, it is just a different thing. When BioWare was independant or under Elevation, they had more self control. Now, it is more of a balance game with other EA games to ensure a publicly traded company remains financially viable (BioWare always strove to be viable, it just didn't answer to stock holders). So what happened with JE-ME-DAO-ME2-DA2-ME3-DAI is not the same schedule anymore. There is also a new studio handling a lot of the MENext work, which will change timing as well (plus or minus). Lots of timing changes since the old days.

 

3 - "or the PC port was so secret even he didn't know about it." Yep, that was the case. I always strove to tell the truth, but it isn't like I was a Casey Hudson or Mike Laidlaw or anything. Sure I learned stuff before many other staff and before fans, but I learned of game developments and changes when I needed to be able to do my job. That did not always give me a lot of time. You remember that example, but I can remember far more when I said "the thing (video, update, etc) will be ready at X o'clock" only to have that change with hours or minutes notice. It happens. Fans are ever so forgiving when it does.

 

4 - Secrecy has always been very important to BioWare, but if anything, it has become more transparent under EA (hard to believe I know, but it really had). Aaryn Flynn the studio GM is a big proponent on being open and honest with fans. That does not mean he wants to blab about everything. There is a time and place for things, but he has always been very receptive to open communication. That is why staff on DA tweet as much as they do during meetings, E3 prep, etc. (maybe MENext staff will as well, time will tell). BioWare is secretive because, given its lengthy history, BioWare has a lot of fans with expectations of product. And I KNOW that BioWare fans overreact (for good and for bad) when they partially hear news. ME3 left a bad impression on some gamers with the ending controversy. However, BioWare and EA believe that ME can and should be a major franchise with hopefully more games & products in the future. For vague MENext info to come out without information to back it up would only a) make some fans get the wrong impression of the game only to be later disappointed as it doesn't live up to what they imagined it meant; or b ) make some fans get the wrong impression of the game and tune out and not listen for the actual news when it is released.

 

This is why I dont think MENext will be at E3 this year. I hope BioWare blows the roof off E3 (or PAX, N7 Day, wherever) when they actually announce it. To release a teaser does it an injustice as hardcore fans are already waiting for what is coming and casual fans need to be wowed and informed.

 

Still, only a week left. Then we'll see. :)

 

 

 

:devil:

 

 Too bad teasing is exactly what they gave us. lol  I wanted to see and know a little more about the game, but by the end of what they showed I came out knowing just about as much as I did going in. ><



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Well, I just heard that some concept art was shown at the E3 presentation. Haven't seen any of it though, but I'm sure screenies will be all over google images in no time.

Not just Mass Effect, but a tiny bit of the new IP as well: http://www.joystiq.c...t-new-ip-at-e3/



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Not just Mass Effect, but a tiny bit of the new IP as well: http://www.joystiq.c...t-new-ip-at-e3/

And we know it has trees. :P


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And we know it has trees. :P

lmao



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They talked about it as if it would be open world. (The part I liked about ME 1, as small as the landing sites were, they still gave the sense of exploration). However, whether it will actually be open world or a predefined path to follow is a different question. Fingers crossed on that!

 

I certainly hope it'll be a PC title as well. So far confirmation seems to cover PS and XBox, but I'm not too worried, it'd be really odd if there wasn't a PC version as well.

 

For the rest, we learned nothing new, not even whether our favourite species will be there.



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nope, no mass effect 4 at E3 this year. 

 

that was a joke.



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nope, no mass effect 4 at E3 this year. 

 

that was a joke.

 

It was more than we got in the ME2 teaser trailer, at least footage-wise.



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Bit of a shame, I was hoping for a little bit more on Mass Effect (I realllly hope we don't play as a anther N7/soldier) good graphics so far though.

 

While it was good to see something, I just I don't think we will get anything substantial from BioWare until after Dragon Age Inquisition is released at the latest (I don't mind being wrong over that though lol)



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Bit of a shame, I was hoping for a little bit more on Mass Effect (I realllly hope we don't play as a anther N7/soldier) good graphics so far though.

 

While it was good to see something, I just I don't think we will get anything substantial from BioWare until after Dragon Age Inquisition is released at the latest (I don't mind being wrong over that though lol)

 

I got about 1/2 of what I hoped for.

 

I agree we may have to wait for around N7 Day. But at that point, they're likely much more free to talk about stuff.



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ME:something

DA:I

Battlefront

 

Just take my money now.



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Guess you're wrong.


To be fair, it'd be pretty easy to say that MEWhatever wasn't there, exactly, since we still have no clue about the definite setting, the protagonist, or the title. Just a glimpse at random in-progress stuff with no context to work with.
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It was more than we got in the ME2 teaser trailer, at least footage-wise.

 

the "nope, no mass effect 4 at E3 this year." was the joke. no what they showed.

 

still i wished they would have came out and said if it was a sequel or not but as far as teaser it was OK.



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To be fair, it'd be pretty easy to say that MEWhatever wasn't there, exactly, since we still have no clue about the definite setting, the protagonist, or the title. Just a glimpse at random in-progress stuff with no context to work with.

 

Not really. It was there. It had footage. It had developers vaguely describing it.

 

It was about the bare minimum to show without doing a 30 second CGI bit, but it was definitely something. Enough to communicate the message of 'MEN is here, we're working on it, here's a tiny bit of it' until hopefully later this year.



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I'm glad I was wrong and they showed something, even as simple as a "proof of life" video like this.

 

Don't get me wrong, it basically said nothing. It was intended to show BioWare was still making the next ME game and that is what it showed. That is uses Frostbite and that it will be on Next-Gen consoles was a pretty easy guess. The concept art was really pretty though. I am psyched for the next game. I don't know when they will reveal more, but I suspect we'll wait for a huge reveal next year at E3.

 

Still, cool little bits like this help whet the appetite.:)

 

 

 

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Wasn't much footage, but still enough to get me excitied.



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I'm glad I was wrong and they showed something, even as simple as a "proof of life" video like this.

 

Don't get me wrong, it basically said nothing. It was intended to show BioWare was still making the next ME game and that is what it showed. That is uses Frostbite and that it will be on Next-Gen consoles was a pretty easy guess. The concept art was really pretty though. I am psyched for the next game. I don't know when they will reveal more, but I suspect we'll wait for a huge reveal next year at E3.

 

Still, cool little bits like this help whet the appetite. :)

 

 

 

:devil:

 

I think it said nothing and everything.

 

But mostly nothing. Mostly. lol