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The Raloi are an avian species that originate from the planet Turvess. It was very possible that we could have met them in Mass Effect 2, because they were already inducted into the galactic community back in 2184. During their "welcome ceremony", their species were affected by an alien flu virus, the "H7N7", which is a real disease as found in avian-type species. This caused them to become like the quarians(but not in the same manner), because they had to wear environmental suits around other alien species on the Citadel.

 

When the Reaper War came in 2186, they withdrew from the galactic community. They pulled out their embassy and retreated to their home world, Turvess, and destroyed all sorts of technology, hoping that the Reapers would deem them too primitive to harvest.

 

The raloi are pretty much a dead species within the Mass Effect trilogy since they are never spoken of or heard of. Maybe there are like messages about them, but you never see them at all.



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Them and the virtual aliens. I wonder how they fared during the war.

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Them and the virtual aliens. I wonder how they fared during the war.

No one really knows if they survived the war by fooling the Reapers...



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Eh, I don't put much stock into their eventual appearance. They're a race invented by Twitter and lucky enough to get a mention in an in-game news source. That's much, much more than I'd honestly expect from them.

 

I headcanon that the Reapers weren't fooled by their actions and that they were wiped out. Same with the VA. If they weren't burned by the time of the Crucible deployment, they would be post-destroy.



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I'd like them to survive, even if just to have more species to encounter in the next game.



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Eh, I don't put much stock into their eventual appearance. They're a race invented by Twitter and lucky enough to get a mention in an in-game news source.

I headcanon that the Reapers weren't fooled by their actions and that they were wiped out. Same with the VA. If they weren't burned by the time of the Crucible deployment, they would be post-destroy.

Makes sense, though I wonder if the Reapers would hold off on harvesting them until the species which posed an credible threat were harvested first. Bottled up on their homeworld, the Raloi aren't going anywhere.

Lacking the same material needs as organics, the virtual aliens would stand a better chance of hiding in space with their "ark ship." I wonder if the Destroy wave would target the virtual aliens. I don't think it would; seems to me it targeted Reaper tech.

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I'm not entirely sure if Turians do count as an avian species, I mean, they don't resemble birds at all... 

 

I would have liked to have seen the raloi for maybe just a bit regardless if they were "Twitter-made" as said by @MassivelyEffective0730.

 



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Makes sense, though I wonder if the Reapers would hold off on harvesting them until the species which posed an credible threat were harvested first.

I wonder if the Destroy wave would target the virtual aliens. I don't think it would; seems to me it targeted Reaper tech.

 

It's implied several times that the Reapers go ahead and destroy species that are 'close' to the cusp of developing spaceflight and artificial intelligence - this includes a species of birds that were in their bronze age that got wiped out. Presumably, if that species was anything like humans, they were only a few thousand years off from spaceflight and AI, close enough to go ahead and take them out.

 

Whereas the last time the Reapers came and saw humanity, they would have seen a very primitive group of hunter-gatherers that had no civilization beyond basic stone tools (sharpened rocks essentially) and no agriculture.



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It's implied several times that the Reapers go ahead and destroy species that are 'close' to the cusp of developing spaceflight and artificial intelligence - this includes a species of birds that were in their bronze age that got wiped out. Presumably, if that species was anything like humans, they were only a few thousand years off from spaceflight and AI, close enough to go ahead and take them out.
 
Whereas the last time the Reapers came and saw humanity, they would have seen a very primitive group of hunter-gatherers that had no civilization beyond basic stone tools (sharpened rocks essentially) and no agriculture.

I have no doubt they'd be harvested, especially with the news openly identifying them as a spacefaring race; it's just a question of how their harvest would be prioritized. Would the Reapers wait to sweep them up until the galaxy's military powers had exhausted themselves.

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They're a race invented by Twitter...

Actually, they first appeared in a news report on ME2's console on the login screen (Cerberus Daily News), back when it had regular in-universe news updates.

 

Link:

http://masseffect.wi...o_Citadel_Space



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Why do you doubt the Turians are an avian species? That is cannon. That was the thinking in their design. Even one of the loading screen guards says something like "the birds don't quit" in reference to the Turians.



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Why do you doubt the Turians are an avian species? That is cannon. That was the thinking in their design. Even one of the loading screen guards says something like "the birds don't quit" in reference to the Turians.

Well, of course I know that. But I just don't see the bird in them.....maybe a bit, but the turians don't exactly have a feature that resembles birds in my opinion. I have seen the concept art and they do have some resemblance, but in-game, they are quite fixed as opposed their concept art depiction.



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I quite like an aviar sapient species. It's pretty refreshing stuff from all the human anthropocentric races there.



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Damn, came rushing to this thread thinking it was going to be about turians lol. 
As for the turian being avian debate, I find it weird they'd give what was supposed to be an avian humanoid speicies clickable mandibles. And yet they are bird-like because of their fringe and beak-like mouth plate things. Man idk they really went all over with place when developing turians. But they made it work! 

But wow I've never heard about these raloi guys in-game. Didn't know it was possible to be even more obscure than drell. As for the Reaper war, they totally chickened out
(hah. chickened. sorry). 

Maybe we'll get to see these guys in ME4? Bioware owes us some new species. An entire galaxy has to be home to more than what we've seen in ME so far. 



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Damn, came rushing to this thread thinking it was going to be about turians lol. 
As for the turian being avian debate, I find it weird they'd give what was supposed to be an avian humanoid speicies clickable mandibles. And yet they are bird-like because of their fringe and beak-like mouth plate things. Man idk they really went all over with place when developing turians. But they made it work! 

But wow I've never heard about these raloi guys in-game. Didn't know it was possible to be even more obscure than drell. As for the Reaper war, they totally chickened out
(hah. chickened. sorry). 

Maybe we'll get to see these guys in ME4? Bioware owes us some new species. An entire galaxy has to be home to more than what we've seen in ME so far. 

Yeah, but I'd love to have the current species return as well. <3 Also, not everyone knows about insignificant raloi species since they are hardly mentioned ever. It is understandable on why they withdrew along with the colony on Tyvor committing suicide. Drells are of little importance since only 2 exist in-game that we know of.



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I have no doubt they'd be harvested, especially with the news openly identifying them as a spacefaring race; it's just a question of how their harvest would be prioritized. Would the Reapers wait to sweep them up until the galaxy's military powers had exhausted themselves.

 

The Reapers were giving the yahg an apparent berth at the time of the invasion as well. I'd wager the Reaper priority list put actively space-faring species at the top of the list, and then, once they were mostly dealt with, they'd move in on species who were on the cusp of achieving space flight. So I'd imagine that the raloi would not be prioritized highly - if they don't want to go gallivanting around the galaxy, that just means that, when the Reapers DO come to harvest them, they'll still be right there for one quick push. Given that this cycle, being even slightly forewarned and having the Keepers' signal delayed, put up a stronger organized fight than previous, it seems that they would have had to focus on the active resistance instead of the passive observers first. Why create more trouble than needed? Since I doubt the raloi's capability for space flight was missed by the Reapers, they'd know that there could be those who escape even if they send only a token force. It just takes one ship landing somewhere unobtrusive to be missed, and be able to leave information behind for subsequent cycles, screwing everything up.

 

So I figure there's a good chance that the raloi are still around. Of course, they're probably also likely to be galactic pariahs in the overall galactic community for running and hiding while the rest of the galaxy fought for survival and needed every last soldier, gun, and bullet to help in that fight...

 

As for the virtual aliens, their fate's a little less certain - Destroy is only supposed to go after Reaper tech, after all, and otherwise, they could potentially have managed to escape the brunt of the fighting.



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The Reapers were giving the yahg an apparent berth at the time of the invasion as well. I'd wager the Reaper priority list put actively space-faring species at the top of the list, and then, once they were mostly dealt with, they'd move in on species who were on the cusp of achieving space flight. So I'd imagine that the raloi would not be prioritized highly - if they don't want to go gallivanting around the galaxy, that just means that, when the Reapers DO come to harvest them, they'll still be right there for one quick push. Given that this cycle, being even slightly forewarned and having the Keepers' signal delayed, put up a stronger organized fight than previous, it seems that they would have had to focus on the active resistance instead of the passive observers first. Why create more trouble than needed? Since I doubt the raloi's capability for space flight was missed by the Reapers, they'd know that there could be those who escape even if they send only a token force. It just takes one ship landing somewhere unobtrusive to be missed, and be able to leave information behind for subsequent cycles, screwing everything up.

 

So I figure there's a good chance that the raloi are still around. Of course, they're probably also likely to be galactic pariahs in the overall galactic community for running and hiding while the rest of the galaxy fought for survival and needed every last soldier, gun, and bullet to help in that fight...

 

As for the virtual aliens, their fate's a little less certain - Destroy is only supposed to go after Reaper tech, after all, and otherwise, they could potentially have managed to escape the brunt of the fighting.

 

That's headcanon dude. All tech gets a good anal reaming in Destroy



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That's headcanon dude. All tech gets a good anal reaming in Destroy

 

It's not headcanon, it's a logical conclusion - the only things truly destroyed are things explicitly operating Reaper technology. Otherwise, there'd be NO spaceworthy vessels afterwards or capability to rebuild. It would plunge the galaxy into a dark age, which the EC shows doesn't happen. EDI and the geth have Reaper tech, which is why they're lost for good, but everything else is just relatively tossed around a little, rather than outright destroyed.



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Makes sense, though I wonder if the Reapers would hold off on harvesting them until the species which posed an credible threat were harvested first. Bottled up on their homeworld, the Raloi aren't going anywhere.

Lacking the same material needs as organics, the virtual aliens would stand a better chance of hiding in space with their "ark ship." I wonder if the Destroy wave would target the virtual aliens. I don't think it would; seems to me it targeted Reaper tech.


Originaly it was said it targeted all synthetic life. It wasn't Reaper specific.

Since we have only explored 1% of the galaxy there could be a hundred civilisations that could get affected/annihilated by that wave.

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It's not headcanon, it's a logical conclusion - the only things truly destroyed are things explicitly operating Reaper technology. Otherwise, there'd be NO spaceworthy vessels afterwards or capability to rebuild. It would plunge the galaxy into a dark age, which the EC shows doesn't happen. EDI and the geth have Reaper tech, which is why they're lost for good, but everything else is just relatively tossed around a little, rather than outright destroyed.

 

Except the Catalyst explicitly says the effects of Destroy DO NOT DISCRIMINATE.

 

So yeah, you are headcanoning up a load of bullshit.



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Except the Catalyst explicitly says the effects of Destroy DO NOT DISCRIMINATE.

 

So yeah, you are headcanoning up a load of bullshit.

But he is technically correct, it does discriminate quite a bit. The Catalyst does say that all the technology that they rely on will be affected as well, but if that did happen the Normandy would be fried too along with every other ship. There's a little bit of discrimination in there. Stark kid has proven irrelevant...



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But he is technically correct, it does discriminate quite a bit. The Catalyst does say that all the technology that they rely on will be affected as well, but if that did happen the Normandy would be fried too along with every other ship. There's a little bit of discrimination in there. Stark kid has proven irrelevant...

 

Meh. I treat just about everything Starbrat says as a lie to start with. IT might be bum****ing crazy at this point, but they do have one or two good points worth using for headcanon and nothing else.



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I would say that the Reapers probably did harvest the raloi species. It's hard to fool reapers...maybe. This kinda reminds me of that one species during the Prothean cycle where they sacrificed their young to appease the Reapers.



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Not harvesting the Yahg would be a colossal mistake.

 

That's pretty much like leaving Krogan 2.0 at the brink of spaceflight with the full 50.000 years of development to go for.

 

...I have just explained the refuse ending, I think :P



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I quite like an aviar sapient species. It's pretty refreshing stuff from all the human anthropocentric races there.

You think they're Dextro-Amino based?