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[themikefest]

 

When I was 8 years old there were 3 billion people on Earth. Today there are over 7 billion. That was only 50 years ago.

Can't imagine what it will be in another 50 years or even 100 years. I guess i'll be glad I won't be around to see that.

[cap and gown]

Can't imagine what it will be in another 50 years or even 100 years. I guess i'll be glad I won't be around to see that.

 

Last projections I saw were around 11 billion by 2050 by which time population should start stabilizing.

[Jukaga]

What if we go full Coruscant and rely entirely on subterranean algae farms and vat grown meat? How many people could we actually cram in on an urban Earth? What a nightmare world that would be.

[I Tsunayoshi I]

You have no argument, only what you want the Krogan's lore to be. Every authority on the Krogan in game says the same thing. Pre-industrial it wasn't a problem since most young died well before maturity due to predation and other causes. When they industrialized and got medical care, their population exploded. There was constant warfare, it culminated in a nuclear war. Fast forward, Salarians make contact and the uplift, Rachni war, Krogan victory, Krogan diaspora and surprise! The Krogan are just doing the same thing to their 'bargain worlds', and they want and need more clay. Enter the Rebellions and the Genophage. Have you been paying attention at all?

 

You're just making stuff up and not supporting it with any in game lore. It is you making counter-lore claims, the burden of proof is on you. I have 3 games worth of lore backing my point of view, what do you have friend?

 

I have to ask, how many times were you dropped on your head as a child?

 

Your argument is nothing but an ad hominem fallacy. You believe that EDI's figure is correct, give me solid concrete proof from the meta level lore in game? Garvug's codex is irrelevant due to its purely in-universe point of view that leaves out crucial information needed to put it into perspective. Mordin's figure from in ME2, was never stated to be per individual, and calling it as such is doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

 

The general 1/1000 figure was only enough for them to sustain a population of 3 billion, and that was after 1400 years of continuous decline. EDI's individual figure would have resulted in a far more distorted curve as the decline would have only lasted as long as wartime. Stabilization would have come in a much shorter timespan, followed by the population beginning to increase again. THIS is headcanon at the very least considering its level of speculation.

 

Again, show me anything from the series that supports EDI's figures and I'll drop this. I doubt you will since its far easier to attack the person making the argument you cant beat. More so when you wanna circle jerk with others doing the same.

[Jukaga]

I have to ask, how many times were you dropped on your head as a child?

 

Your argument is nothing but an ad hominem fallacy. You believe that EDI's figure is correct, give me solid concrete proof from the meta level lore in game? Garvug's codex is irrelevant due to its purely in-universe point of view that leaves out crucial information needed to put it into perspective. Mordin's figure from in ME2, was never stated to be per individual, and calling it as such is doing the very thing you are accusing me of.

 

The general 1/1000 figure was only enough for them to sustain a population of 3 billion, and that was after 1400 years of continuous decline. EDI's individual figure would have resulted in a far more distorted curve as the decline would have only lasted as long as wartime. Stabilization would have come in a much shorter timespan, followed by the population beginning to increase again. THIS is headcanon at the very least considering its level of speculation.

 

Again, show me anything from the series that supports EDI's figures and I'll drop this. I doubt you will since its far easier to attack the person making the argument you cant beat. More so when you wanna circle jerk with others doing the same.

 

You have nothing but sophistry to offer, and I conclude you are nothing but a troll as you refuse to acknowledge the facts presented and keep asking for more. It's all in here in the last few pages.

[I Tsunayoshi I]

You have nothing but sophistry to offer, and I conclude you are nothing but a troll as you refuse to acknowledge the facts presented and keep asking for more. It's all in here in the last few pages.

 

Ad hominem and a Strawman now. Good job ruining your credibility.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

You have nothing but sophistry to offer, and I conclude you are nothing but a troll as you refuse to acknowledge the facts presented and keep asking for more. It's all in here in the last few pages.

 

I agree. He's trolling. This one is worse than Auld Wulf.

[Jukaga]

Ad hominem and a Strawman now. Good job ruining your credibility.

 

You're the sophist who offers nothing but biased headcanon and refuse to acknowledge in game lore as facts. My credibility is fine, you are the whiny troll brat who is throwing a tantrum because you've been called out on your lack of facts.

[Jukaga]

I agree. He's trolling. This one is worse than Auld Wulf.

Agreed, I don't recall Wulfie to have been so rude, but the level of obtuseness is about the same.

[von uber]

The krogan post cure will be a plague.

[I Tsunayoshi I]

I agree. He's trolling. This one is worse than Auld Wulf.

 

Thanks for coming out as wrong and as a troll. It wasnt hard to see that your argument had little to stand on besides EDI's figures, and considering nothing in game supports it, either as legitimate information or BWT level stuff that may come up in the epilogue slides, your only recourse from there was to try and Adam Savage the argument hope everyone would reject reality along with you.

 

You're the sophist who offers nothing but biased headcanon and refuse to acknowledge in game lore as facts. My credibility is fine, you are the whiny troll brat who is throwing a tantrum because you've been called out on your lack of facts.

 

More ad hominem? Not surprising from the true troll.

 

The krogan post cure will be a plague.

 

Possibly with full fertility if there is no self control. Guaranteed to happen if EDI's bogus figures are used.

[Jukaga]

Tsun... you're exposed for what you are. Thanks for the laughs though.

[I Tsunayoshi I]

Why do people love Krogan so much? Especially Wrex? I can understand liking Grunt, hes fascinating in my opinion. Wrex is an alright guy but a relic to Grunt. Imagine if we had more Krogan like Grunt. However, I am more into the geth & Legion. I like they're story arc more than the Krogan.

 

Wrex was alright in ME1, but it took ME2 to give him the 'humor' we've gotten used to.

 

Grunt is the more amusing of the two by far.

[von uber]

Wrex isn't so amusing if you destroy the data. Or sabotage the cure.
Neither is he so amusing on virmire.

Don't be fooled by the cuddly krogan act, he killed his own dad to get to the top.

[Obadiah]

Wrex and Wreave are about as reasonable as anyone else I've met in the game.


Cuddly.

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

Wreav is a dick, but his goals are understandable, his methods logical, and his motives are clear to the player. 

So he's better than the catalyst. 

[I Tsunayoshi I]

Wreav is a dick, but his goals are understandable, his methods logical, and his motives are clear to the player. 

So he's better than the catalyst. 

 

The refund guy is better than star****

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

The refund guy is better than star****

He just wanted a refund for his toaster oven. 

[the_last_krogan]

Why do people love Krogan so much? Especially Wrex? I can understand liking Grunt, hes fascinating in my opinion. Wrex is an alright guy but a relic to Grunt. Imagine if we had more Krogan like Grunt. However, I am more into the geth & Legion. I like they're story arc more than the Krogan.

Because krogan are BIG and STRONG!

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Because krogan are BIG and STRONG!

 

And weigh 1 ton in their armor. Where did Grunt go potty on the Normandy? Poor Gardiner. And if Gardiiner died on the Collector Base....

[KaiserShep]

Wrex isn't so amusing if you destroy the data. Or sabotage the cure.
Neither is he so amusing on virmire.

Don't be fooled by the cuddly krogan act, he killed his own dad to get to the top.

 

Actually, Wrex killed his father because he was a leftover from the rebellions that had no interest in diplomacy and betrayed his own son. Wrex's only ambition was to unite the clans and focus on rebuilding. Of course, this is aside from the fact that he leaves to pursue other things afterward.

[Excella Gionne]

He stabbed his father and then left the hallows after killing him. The hallows were a place where krogan couldn't bring weapons, because it was a memorial and it would be disrespectful to do so.