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[Dennis Reynolds]

Wave 10 targets and bad devices cause the vast majority of my fails. I'm going to try London and will no doubt fail multiple times before getting the rhythm and pace of the map down. I have quit tons of Reaper gold solos on wave 7 out of boredom.

[dumdum2]

I never soloed after getting my lone wolf. I just dont have the patience.

 

Well, when you can get your solos down to 20-25 minutes per Gold and 30-35 minutes per Platinum then it really doesn't require much patience. I usually find it more frustrating to play with PUGs. Not only because they can screw up objectives for me but also that they make enemies block when I don't want to and if I use the Geth Plasma Shotgun I can't shoot enemies if a teammate stands in front of me (making my bullets deflect up into the sky). Randoms can also mess up spawn control quite a lot etc. etc.

[Loufi]

That's how I felt about my first Platinum solo, Former Glory and my Volus. Volus was just for laughs.

I had 8+ attempts at my first solo and at Former Glory.


but, what's changed I wonder.. something has been making me very impatient lately. I wonder if it's because I can record now.

Maybe I need to take a break then, but still... I have way more fun playing together with someone than playing alone.

I have experienced that sometimes. It can mean that you're a little bored with the game or not really motivated by the solo you're trying to complete (maybe attempting it for bad reasons). Or, as you said, recording push you perhaps to play differently (more agressively I suppose, to end with a good time).  

[Argent Xero]

We can do some relaxing duos sometime if you'd like. I used to be decent at soloing so maybe I can give you a few pointers while playing together as well.

I've actually just realized something, I almost forgot about what I stand for. I let negative thoughts about soloing cloud my mind when something far more important and meaningful to me is already within my grasp.

So thank you, but I don't need any pointers. I would however like to play with you one day dumdum!

[RealKobeBean]

I have experienced that sometimes. It can mean that you're a little bored with the game or not really motivated by the solo you're trying to complete (maybe attempting it for bad reasons). Or, as you said, recording push you perhaps to play differently (more agressively I suppose, to end with a good time).  

I second this, Argent! Recently, I suffered a big time slump, myself. I was impatient, frustrated and bored altogether. Then, I took a break and focussed on my strengths again - which is NOT speedrunning a solo - and I got the Justicar solo done...the solo I dreaded the most out of all the Asari, actually. Just because you start recording, doesn't mean you should change your playstyle or mindset. Play to your strengths.

[Melee or Die]

You should definitely alter your mindset about/how you're lookin' at it. You're dislike of failure is gonna push you to be great, but you gotta watch watch out for it--don't let it get the better of ya/goin' back in. Myself, I look at failure as just another chance to be great! Don't get Goku, wrong, now. Losin' somethin' I put a lot into hurts (few things match it on my "Things that suck" list"); when I put work into somethin' I expect to come out on top--no matter how big or small a deal it is! BUT! Sometimes, you gonna have ta hold those Ls, take them lumps, and admit you got, got!

As long is you didn't give up believin' in yo'self, ain't nothin' to trip about. Doesn't mean you lie to yourself and go "I can do anything--YAY!!!" That s__t just ain't true, parents stop to lyin' to mah fuqin' kids--dammit! But! You damn sho (sure) can try anythin'! Sometimes like in Clyde's case, and in a lotta cases: steppin' back, takin' a break, and forgettin' how you want it, can really help sharpen that focus. Myself, you clap me; and I'm ready to go befo' the blood on my lip is dry! I need to to keep goin' after failure, but...sometimes I force myself to lose. Just so I can be less agressive and more focused. So, force can be applied from more than one direction ("Be water" -Bruce Lee), and "In need, not desire."

That bein' said. I never wrote any of that above, you didn't see s__t! GOKU, HATES YOU ALL!

[dumdum2]

I've actually just realized something, I almost forgot about what I stand for. I let negative thoughts about soloing cloud my mind when something far more important and meaningful to me is already within my grasp.

So thank you, but I don't need any pointers. I would however like to play with you one day dumdum!

 

Well, there you have, it's all about one's perspective of things. There's always two ways to look at something, a positive way and a negative way, and it's only you who can decide how you'll look at it.

 

That's ok, I'm probably to old and washed up from this game now that I probably shouldn't be giving out pointers anyway. But I'll add you later and we'll see if we can get some games going. My soccer coaching is basically taking up all my time now so sadly I'm not online much at the moment.

[Argent Xero]

I've realized that doing something for myself, purely for myself, means absolutely nothing to me.

soloing is just that, I'm unmotivated because there's no meaning behind the solos that I do aside from my first, Fury Thunderdome. My second, first Spectre Operation solo. My third, just for the hell of it. no reason behind it, just testing out my mini destroyer. Winning or Losing didn't matter to me.

from then on it was a Batarian Sentinel solo which failed because of wave 10 targets, where I couldn't kill it in time. It was just an in the moment thing, another I enjoyed because I used what I wanted. GPS + CSMG, how I usually play him.

Blackwatch, I enjoyed until I set in my mind that 10WS was what I wanted, failing that I didn't have Ops packs and I grew inpatient. I just wanted to get it over with, so when wave 10 targets came and with 4 missiles left, I rushed in. Which was the biggest mistake I could have ever made.

I realize my mistake now.

[Argent Xero]

Well, there you have, it's all about one's perspective of things. There's always two ways to look at something, a positive way and a negative way, and it's only you who can decide how you'll look at it.
 
That's ok, I'm probably to old and washed up from this game now that I probably shouldn't be giving out pointers anyway. But I'll add you later and we'll see if we can get some games going. My soccer coaching is basically taking up all my time now so sadly I'm not online much at the moment.

That's fine, I'll be around for a while.

[Caineghis2500]

I'm inspired, Goku

[Aetika]

Maybe I need to take a break then, but still... I have way more fun playing together with someone than playing alone.

 

This is what I feel too. I did some solos, but gradually it felt more and more as annoying chore and less as fun or challenge.

 

I once failed to solo with AJA 9 times in row. I just couldn´t pull it off no matter what. I always failed because I encountered some horrible clusterf**k where I spent three medigels at once. I was growing more and more impatient and angry and it never went away. I don´t solo anymore, simply because I am not good enough to solo with ease and I lack the drive and the patience.

 

Duos on the other hand can still be fun to me. It´s like intimate version of full team game

[dumdum2]

Blackwatch, I enjoyed until I set in my mind that 10WS was what I wanted, failing that I didn't have Ops packs and I grew inpatient. I just wanted to get it over with, so when wave 10 targets came and with 4 missiles left, I rushed in. Which was the biggest mistake I could have ever made.

 

I know that feeling. I used to be a perfectionist at the game and if I had to use a medigel in a solo I would just rage quit because I got so addicted to those 10 waves survived, even if it was on wave 10 objective in a Platinum solo I would just quit if I had to use a gel.

 

And that wave 10 targets can be annoying. Look at this video that I recorded once http://youtu.be/NrogtqMQ0gQ?t=27m19s , wave 10 started and I wanted to go for 10 waves survived in that game while only using the GPS as a weapon (no real boss killer). I was out of Thermal Clips and only had 1 rocket left so when I saw "Targets" showing up on the screen I just got sooooo pissed. I still made it somehow and couldn't believe that I got away with it.

 

When I first started soloing I was just happy if I made it to extraction, but as you get some good results you start expecting better of yourself up until a point where it just becomes unrealistic.

[Computron2000]

Once you focus, you won't have time to feel bored. That's what solos do, force you to focus, listen to visual and audio cues and make snap decisions. Do a lot of solos then play a team game and you'll feel the difference. Its much less stressful mentally (ie assuming you are not playing super defensively and using 40+ minutes on a strong kit in a mid sized map like reactor in which case you WILL feel bored if you're already good at the game)

 

As for failing, hell, don't worry about it. 1 single bad mistake dropping in open ground and you're spending 2 to 3 medigel just to spam dodge into the nearest cover. 2 such mistakes and you're really screwed. Roll a device objective and its LOL time on some waves.

 

To help, you can try setting a goal you want to reach. Eg hit less than 30 mins on London, get 8 medals, get 10 waves survived, use 0 consumables, etc. Once you have a goal in mind, you know when a game has failed early and can retry. It can be incredibly irritating to fail just when you are about to reach the end but when you succeed, its feels exceptionally good.

[Melee or Die]

I'm inspired, Goku

[NuclearTech76]

Failure rate is totally dependent upon the circumstances. I think I could probably solo successfully on Plat 8 times out of 10 with my best character on UUP, up that to 90% success if doing Giant only as a set map. Using a character without cloak, on a harder map, and trying to get a better time makes the success rate dive; hell I probably rage quit on objectives half the time on 3 and 6 because my time is damned at that point.

[smeckie]

I'm at an 80% failure rate.
 
I'm just such a scrub, honestly :/
 
I only keep trying because I know I can do it. I just need the focus. It's a little disheartening to get really far only to fail, but you shrug it off by really thinking about what you did wrong that caused you to fail. It can end up making you a better player or making you bitter.

This sums it up for me also. I posted basically the same thing on a forum somewhere a couple of days ago.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

I've only ever attempted 3 gold solos (all successful) and 0 plat ones. I find the concept mind-numbingly dull, and don't see myself doing another.

[ajma420]

I win about 60% of my gold solos, but I have no desire to run platinum. I find that I improve more by looking at what I did wrong rather than advancing in difficulty. Even a successful solo is filled with errors. Did I stay in one spot too long? Did I take any unnecessary risks? How can I change my strategy to improve how I deal with primes, phantoms, etc?

 

The point of failure is to learn. If you won every game without contest, do you think you would still be playing?

[ALTBOULI]

I've only ever attempted 3 gold solos (all successful) and 0 plat ones. I find the concept mind-numbingly dull, and don't see myself doing another.

Pretty much this - I have only solo'd Gold 2 times, had a few half hearted attempts at plat (maybe 6 or 7 attempts) with reasonable success (got to wave 10 3 times )but would often get bored and lose focus resulting in a failed attempt, Its just not my thing.

[Prestacious]

I have failed many many solos in the 2 years since this game came out. Usually because I try to go way too fast and wipe. Often it's due to difficult objectives. I will often re-attempt at a slower pace until I've found the happy balance that I'm capable of achieving. Soloing is not an easy endeavor and is not for the faint of heart, that is for sure. There is a lot of failure for the occasional satisfying successful run. I can see that not being for everyone. Why submit yourself to the torture when you can play gold and platinum team games with really not too much stress?

 

However, I personally enjoy the challenge of soloing and I find some of the most satisfaction in this game through completing tough solo challenges. I feel that soloing has made me a much better player as I've often had to attempt over and over to become more proficient with a specific kit or weapon. I think that improvement has translated into team play as well, and that the two are not mutually exclusive.

 

All in all, though, I think it's just preference. I tend to try to challenge myself with gaming (can you tell? ) and I enjoy striving for those feats that not many can do, are willing to do, or that take considerable effort. That's what's rewarding for me. That's all. At the end of the day, we're all still scrubs anyway.

[N7 Tigger]

I took my Fury to the Thunderdome again, but I rage quit on wave 3 because the brute and ravager got stuck on each other right next to the device.

My natural instincts told me to missile, like I do in team games. but I can't do that in a solo. so I ended up kiting, only to have a ravager camp the device. I didn't have time to kill it so I went and attempted to disable the device only to have it kill me. so I quit.

It wasn't even something I did to enjoy, it was something I HAD to do to improve.

Shows how much I've improved right? :/

...my failed Blackwatch attempt was the final straw. It was just so disheartening. I ****ed up, I was impatient and I screwed myself over on wave 10.

I was at least having fun up until that point. but now I assume all solos are failures, so I'm not even enthusiastic at all about them.


Any tips on how to be enthusiastic about a solo?

 

Sorry about the late reply. I had to go out.

 

I've never done any of the challenges so I'm not sure what Blackwatch involves. Honestly, if I successfully extracted on a Fury Thunderdome one in ten attempts I'd be pretty proud of that. That's hard even for a Platinum solo. And remember, Platinum was designed to be bastard hard for four people let alone one. How many people have ever solo'd Platinum. One in a thousand?

 

As far as objectives go, I've come to accept that sometimes I just get dealt a bad hand and the best thing to do is quit and try again. I find that quitting out of an unwinable situation is far less frustrating than stubbornly fighting on, burning through all your consumables and failing anyway. I had an Atlas camp the device in the center of the low ground on Hydra once. Sounds like your Ravager was taking notes.

 

If I'm getting frustrated I just take a break. I haven't solo'd in three weeks because last time I tried Cerberus decided to take Turret farms to the next level and I wasn't enjoying it. I also take a different approach to soloing than most people. My goal is always flawless with no regard for time. Hell, I'm yet to finish a Platinum solo in under 50 minutes.

 

One other thing that can help - Grab three mates, pick the most OP kit in your arsenal, drop down to Gold and make those Collectors your b*tch.

[TheNightSlasher]

I don't fail gold solos all that often these days (not counting rage-quits - which are a LOT, and the times when I am doing it while waiting for a friend or something similar).

 

I rage-quit a LOT of platinum solos (the count is 100+ for sure) - whenever I get terrible objectives, use too many consumables in the first 2-3 waves, miss a rocket completely, or when the game decides to troll me. I also quit when I get the feeling that the solo is taking quite long.

 

You can't force yourself to like soloing - you either like it, or you don't. Also, solos are more fun when you are doing them out of enjoyment, and not for the sake of doing it. I don't mind failing a solo - I do feel kinda pissed off when it happens but it is what it is. Going into a plat solo, I know my chances of failure and am not usually all that downed by a failure. Then again, I rage-quit SO MUCH that a failure is like a rage-quit to me, lol.

 

To shake it off, I just do a gold pug. I usually do it to let off some steam and do stupid things in those pugs like random melee builds etc.

 

My natural instincts told me to missile, like I do in team games. but I can't do that in a solo. so I ended up kiting, only to have a ravager camp the device. I didn't have time to kill it so I went and attempted to disable the device only to have it kill me. so I quit.

Any tips on how to be enthusiastic about a solo?

Natural instinct > everything else. If you feel something deserves a nuke to the face, then do it. 

 

Soloing has improved my game, so I am always enthusiastic about it. I have learned some nifty tricks from soloing. Always come in handy. Other than that, as I said, it's just something you either like or hate. Can't really force yourself too much - then it becomes a chore.

 

I must say that soloing has also taught me some bad habits - in solos, you control the direction and flow of enemies. You can't do that much in team games - so I tend to be less cautious in team games these days. 

[StoxRegalia]

I fail a lot. Mostly because I know I've used too much equipment to early and just quit. Not gonna make it through platinum if I used 3 gels on wave 1. At the very least it's highly unlikely.

Take your own advice and do them because it's fun. Not becaue you want to prove something to yourself. I myself get bored doing the same map and enemy combo with the same kits over and over so after a few attempts whatever I have is it.

[Heldarion]

I'd say it's about 25%, almost exclusively on Glacier.

 

I keep playing until I complete a solo with a specific setup, which may take anywhere from 1 to 10 tries.

[Caineghis2500]

How many times on average does your solo end in failure, or you rage quit?

I've got about an 80/20% success/failure rate on platinum solos. I only rage quit if I'm speed running gold and get devices but I prefer doing difficult grind type platinum solos in which I never rage quit or let myself be killed no matter how crazy things get.

 

For me, I can't stand failure during a solo, it's enough to make me not re-attempt it after I tried and did my best, and rage quitting is more of a defeat to me personally.

Failure is only an indicator that there's more room for improvement despite you trying your best. Trust me I know how you feel. In my early days of soloing I felt like quitting and said to myself "fuk dat chit" countless times. What kept my butthurt self going and readying up again was my passion for soloing and my determination to extract no matter how hard the solo was. Don't get me wrong, it was really fun despite the butthurt. It's just my cup of tea.

 

My first bronze solo took about 5-6 attempts. My first gold solo took 10 attempts. My first platinum solo took over 15 attempts.

 

I learned to embrace failed solos cuz that was the perfect opportunity to learn. I've even watched my own failed videos which helped greatly. I think I developed a six sense for enemies behind me lol (dedication much?) Sure there's bugs and BS that causes mission failure but I'd argue that at least 80% of failed solos are due to the player mistakes.

 

Solos generally don't mean anything to me, does that make it impossible for be to have fun with them?

This is the reason why I don't solo. but I want to try and have fun with the themed ones at least. I just don't have the heart to waste my time with failure if I'm not going to improve from it. :/

I'm lost here... I'm just wondering if it's usual to fail, and if so how do you shake it off?

 

Learning to be a good soloer is a tough learning curve but most importantly, a tough journey filled with many many ups and downs. Those without a heart for it won't stick around for the journey. The challenge of soloing is obviously not your cup of tea and the same could be said for most of BSN. That's why you can't genuinely enjoy it. IMHO it kinda has to mean something.

 

Take knocking, invaderone, alqiunn, hardcoresalmon, stentron, Nightslasher, d_nought etc...  who are top tier soloers with fast times and/or very difficult enemy/map/kit combo extractions. I'm pretty sure they've experienced countless failed attempts. I believed they had a passion for soloing which is why they continued despite the fails hence all the solo videos/pics they produced.

 

Passion is what makes the difference. Anyone can step up to the plate and take a swing, miss then walk away but passion(having a heart) is what will keep you swinging until you hit the ball right. My advice would be to not force yourself to have fun with or have a heart for something that doesn't resonate with you. If team games is where your true enjoyment of this game is then stick with that....

 

Anyways hope this helps....