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Wakara Pezi wrote...


Well then, take out ALL the m/f romances then.

Why?

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danman2424 wrote...

Wakara Pezi wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

Kirika69 wrote...]

Choice in an RPG? Heaven forbid.

Wait, is ME2 even classed as an RPG anymore?


There is a limit to choice. I'm sure that there are plenty of incestuous people or people that are into bestiality that feel left out as well, however, Bioware can't please everyone.


Limit to choice... LOL

I guess a f/f or m/m romance is too hard compared to the 6 romances for the m/f group. Image IPB

It doesn't matter how hard it is. The point is, they bend for one group then they have to bend for another. Everyone wants something and every group feels entitled.This is the game they wanted to make. Take it or leave it.


Bend for one group... LOL.

I say they need to take out ALL the m/f romances then... if ya don't want to bend for one group that is.Image IPB

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Wakara Pezi wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

Wakara Pezi wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

Kirika69 wrote...]

Choice in an RPG? Heaven forbid.

Wait, is ME2 even classed as an RPG anymore?


There is a limit to choice. I'm sure that there are plenty of incestuous people or people that are into bestiality that feel left out as well, however, Bioware can't please everyone.


Limit to choice... LOL

I guess a f/f or m/m romance is too hard compared to the 6 romances for the m/f group. Image IPB

It doesn't matter how hard it is. The point is, they bend for one group then they have to bend for another. Everyone wants something and every group feels entitled.This is the game they wanted to make. Take it or leave it.


Bend for one group... LOL.

I say they need to take out ALL the m/f romances then... if ya don't want to bend for one group that is.Image IPB

Except they didn't bend for any group. They made the game they wanted to make. Bending for a group would be changing the game they wanted to make to appease said group.

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danman2424 wrote...

Wakara Pezi wrote...


Well then, take out ALL the m/f romances then.

Why?


If it's too much for them to put in f/f or m/m then why put in m/f?

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They already "bent" for the xenophiliacs, 3 out of 6 romances. And played down FemShep's possible homosexuality from the first game.

Rather than sticking FemShep in the closet, they should have allowed her to continue being herself, and allowed the same possibilities for MaleShep. Hell... The way he and Jacob already come on to each other... You'll know what I mean when you see the "fraternization" convo.

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danman2424 wrote...

It doesn't matter how hard it is. The
point is, they bend for one group then they have to bend for another.
Everyone wants something and every group feels entitled.This is the
game they wanted to make. Take it or leave it.


Bioware bent for the fans frothing at the mouth for Tali and Garrus love.

I'm
sure if other fans knew at the very least their established F/F romance
options were on the chopping block they would have made an uproar
before now as well.

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danman2424 wrote...

Except they didn't bend for any group. They made the game they wanted to make. Bending for a group would be changing the game they wanted to make to appease said group.


They did... the m/f group. It's not changing the game to have f/f or m/m romance. Besides the romance option is choice remember?

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Here's to hoping Zaeed is a big scary bounty hunter...who secretly loves showtunes and poetry!

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I think adding more choices (whatever they be) is a step in the right direction.

I'm not too worried about romances in my game, but if that happens to be a DLC, i'll still be buying it :P

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Kirika69 wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

It doesn't matter how hard it is. The
point is, they bend for one group then they have to bend for another.
Everyone wants something and every group feels entitled.This is the
game they wanted to make. Take it or leave it.


Bioware bent for the fans frothing at the mouth for Tali and Garrus love.

I'm
sure if other fans knew at the very least their established F/F romance
options were on the chopping block they would have made an uproar
before now as well.

Apparently they felt putting development into a tali/garrus romance was more beneficial than possibly replacing one of those romance options with a gay/animal/incest one just to make a few more people feel less discriminated.

Political correctness has already ruined enough things. I'm sick of every movie, game, and television show feeling like they have to include a positive black, hispanic, asian, female, etc. figure in the cast. Now apparently equality has to go beyond ending physical discrimination and extend to everyone that has certain preferences for things? Give me a break.

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I want an F/F DLC if it`s really not in the game. I play FemShep and don`t want to date a guy. If my FemShep is homosexual, than she is.

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danman2424 wrote...

Kirika69 wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

It doesn't matter how hard it is. The
point is, they bend for one group then they have to bend for another.
Everyone wants something and every group feels entitled.This is the
game they wanted to make. Take it or leave it.


Bioware bent for the fans frothing at the mouth for Tali and Garrus love.

I'm
sure if other fans knew at the very least their established F/F romance
options were on the chopping block they would have made an uproar
before now as well.

Apparently they felt putting development into a tali/garrus romance was more beneficial than possibly replacing one of those romance options with a gay/animal/incest one just to make a few more people feel less discriminated.

Political correctness has already ruined enough things. I'm sick of every movie, game, and television show feeling like they have to include a positive black, hispanic, asian, female, etc. figure in the cast. Now apparently equality has to go beyond ending physical discrimination and extend to everyone that has certain preferences for things? Give me a break.


An F/F or M/M romance doesn't necessarily replace an existing romance though. A same sex romance option is also a straight romance option at the same time usually. It's merely applying a broader spectrum, not inventing an alien race to romance.

Again, it's not political correctness in this case. It's following through on what was established in ME1. People are mad because they expected it. But no one is forcing this content down your throat. If you don't want your character to romance someone of the same sex, just choose not to. And does same sex romance options take something away from you? I believe they only add to the game.

I'm not sure I'll ever understand the vehement opposition.

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danman2424 wrote...

Political correctness has already ruined enough things. I'm sick of every movie, game, and television show feeling like they have to include a positive black, hispanic, asian, female, etc. figure in the cast. Now apparently equality has to go beyond ending physical discrimination and extend to everyone that has certain preferences for things? Give me a break.

Yeah, equality...SO overrated. <_<

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Umm, i don't...


Then don't buy it and stay the F*** away from here.

Whoa, whoa whoa, chill, man. No need to be so harsh. He has his own opinion, and you have yours.

I really don't mind a gay/lesbian DLC, neither completely for, or against it. I think BioWare had a reason for not including cast members that are (to our knowledge) attracted to the same gender, but anyone can speculate that.


Well said, im kinda same way but little more to the no side!

If it was a big enough deal, ME would have it. They have it in other games and frankly I think it takes away from those games at times. Its that 500lbs elephant in the room that others trying to ignore but never seem to be able to.

I think games better off with out cause its a political issue and those have no place in games imo. When the 2 sides have battled it out and homosexuality is ok worldwide (modern world of course), then include it. Till then, leave the politics to those paid to play them. Has no real place and offers no real value to the games themselves.

Probably not what the homosexuals want to hear so brand me a homophobe and move on if it makes you feel safe in your pretend little world. Seems to be the instant answer on these forums.

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Kirika69 wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

Kirika69 wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

It doesn't matter how hard it is. The
point is, they bend for one group then they have to bend for another.
Everyone wants something and every group feels entitled.This is the
game they wanted to make. Take it or leave it.


Bioware bent for the fans frothing at the mouth for Tali and Garrus love.

I'm
sure if other fans knew at the very least their established F/F romance
options were on the chopping block they would have made an uproar
before now as well.

Apparently they felt putting development into a tali/garrus romance was more beneficial than possibly replacing one of those romance options with a gay/animal/incest one just to make a few more people feel less discriminated.

Political correctness has already ruined enough things. I'm sick of every movie, game, and television show feeling like they have to include a positive black, hispanic, asian, female, etc. figure in the cast. Now apparently equality has to go beyond ending physical discrimination and extend to everyone that has certain preferences for things? Give me a break.


An F/F or M/M romance doesn't necessarily replace an existing romance though. A same sex romance option is also a straight romance option at the same time usually. It's merely applying a broader spectrum, not inventing an alien race to romance.

Again, it's not political correctness in this case. It's following through on what was established in ME1. People are mad because they expected it. But no one is forcing this content down your throat. If you don't want your character to romance someone of the same sex, just choose not to. And does same sex romance options take something away from you? I believe they only add to the game.

I'm not sure I'll ever understand the vehement opposition.


Ditto!

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Kirika69 wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

Kirika69 wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

It doesn't matter how hard it is. The
point is, they bend for one group then they have to bend for another.
Everyone wants something and every group feels entitled.This is the
game they wanted to make. Take it or leave it.


Bioware bent for the fans frothing at the mouth for Tali and Garrus love.

I'm
sure if other fans knew at the very least their established F/F romance
options were on the chopping block they would have made an uproar
before now as well.

Apparently they felt putting development into a tali/garrus romance was more beneficial than possibly replacing one of those romance options with a gay/animal/incest one just to make a few more people feel less discriminated.

Political correctness has already ruined enough things. I'm sick of every movie, game, and television show feeling like they have to include a positive black, hispanic, asian, female, etc. figure in the cast. Now apparently equality has to go beyond ending physical discrimination and extend to everyone that has certain preferences for things? Give me a break.


An F/F or M/M romance doesn't necessarily replace an existing romance though. A same sex romance option is also a straight romance option at the same time usually. It's merely applying a broader spectrum, not inventing an alien race to romance.

Again, it's not political correctness in this case. It's following through on what was established in ME1. People are mad because they expected it. But no one is forcing this content down your throat. If you don't want your character to romance someone of the same sex, just choose not to. And does same sex romance options take something away from you? I believe they only add to the game.

I'm not sure I'll ever understand the vehement opposition.

My only opposition is to the constant whining of people feeling like they didn't get their way. If Bioware wants to make a game about transsexual midget necrophiliacs, then so be it, but don't whine about it because the transsexual midget isn't black.

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Kirika69 wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

Kirika69 wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

It doesn't matter how hard it is. The
point is, they bend for one group then they have to bend for another.
Everyone wants something and every group feels entitled.This is the
game they wanted to make. Take it or leave it.


Bioware bent for the fans frothing at the mouth for Tali and Garrus love.

I'm
sure if other fans knew at the very least their established F/F romance
options were on the chopping block they would have made an uproar
before now as well.

Apparently they felt putting development into a tali/garrus romance was more beneficial than possibly replacing one of those romance options with a gay/animal/incest one just to make a few more people feel less discriminated.

Political correctness has already ruined enough things. I'm sick of every movie, game, and television show feeling like they have to include a positive black, hispanic, asian, female, etc. figure in the cast. Now apparently equality has to go beyond ending physical discrimination and extend to everyone that has certain preferences for things? Give me a break.


An F/F or M/M romance doesn't necessarily replace an existing romance though. A same sex romance option is also a straight romance option at the same time usually. It's merely applying a broader spectrum, not inventing an alien race to romance.

Again, it's not political correctness in this case. It's following through on what was established in ME1. People are mad because they expected it. But no one is forcing this content down your throat. If you don't want your character to romance someone of the same sex, just choose not to. And does same sex romance options take something away from you? I believe they only add to the game.

I'm not sure I'll ever understand the vehement opposition.

Most of the opposition is from people who don't think it's a big deal that, when BioWare decides to make a big, heavily marketed, mainstream game that a lot of people are going to buy, they decide they're not going to include a gay option even though they've done it for their less mainstream games before (e.g. Mass Effect).

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danman2424 wrote...
My only opposition is to the constant whining of people feeling like they didn't get their way. If Bioware wants to make a game about transsexual midget necrophiliacs, then so be it, but don't whine about it because the transsexual midget isn't black.

Cause whining never did any good for the Tali/Garrus fans apparently...

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I like how the majority of the people on the opposite side of this issue like to compare homosexuals to necrophiliacs and the like. These are the same sort of people who, when debating gay marriage, would say, "What's next? Polygamous marriages? Incestuous marriages? Zoophilic marriages?"

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octoberfire wrote...

danman2424 wrote...
My only opposition is to the constant whining of people feeling like they didn't get their way. If Bioware wants to make a game about transsexual midget necrophiliacs, then so be it, but don't whine about it because the transsexual midget isn't black.

Cause whining never did any good for the Tali/Garrus fans apparently...


I agree!

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octoberfire wrote...

danman2424 wrote...
My only opposition is to the constant whining of people feeling like they didn't get their way. If Bioware wants to make a game about transsexual midget necrophiliacs, then so be it, but don't whine about it because the transsexual midget isn't black.

Cause whining never did any good for the Tali/Garrus fans apparently...

Like it or not, there are going to be more people choosing the tali or garrus relationship options than there would be choosing a gay one. There was whining from gays that were upset about there being a f/f relationship in Mass Effect 1 but no m/m. Mass Effect 2 still remains unchanged in that regard last I checked.

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I wonder why the Thane fans are so silent... They used to be more vocal than the Garrus fans in the old forum. Perhaps most of them leaped right back to fangirling Garrus when he was confirmed.

Argh, 6 love interests and only two of them are in any way appealing to me. And I might hook up one of my Renegades with SuZe.

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Still I ask, why does Mass Effect have to cater to peoples varied sexual preferences? Seriously I feel sorry for Bioware who gave an inch now people want the whole mile. If there are those who feel strongly that there should be a Sci-Fi video game with homosexuality in it then please go and create such a game. This whole thing of sexual relationships in Mass Effect has gotten blown way out of proportion. Perhaps Shepard and crew have more important issues at stake than making out in the supply closet. Why do we assume there is homosexuality in other races of beings? Seriously, let it go. The story and characters of Mass Effect are as they are, if you don't like it then play some other game.

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Anthropophobic wrote...

I like how the majority of the people on the opposite side of this issue like to compare homosexuals to necrophiliacs and the like. These are the same sort of people who, when debating gay marriage, would say, "What's next? Polygamous marriages? Incestuous marriages? Zoophilic marriages?"

That's their crutch, aye. Gay marriage would be Pandora's Box. Once it's opened all kinds of horrible evils will be unleashed into the world. Men will be raping women in dark alleys. Children will be molested. World Wars will erupt. Atomic bombs. Oh my!

Wait...didn't all of that already happen?

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It takes away time from something not as useless to be added. If it wasn't important enough to be in the game. There's enough romances in the game....Weapons, armor, and missions are more important.


New weapons and armor are useless in a single player game; a same sex romance DLC would actually add more to the experience. Plus, it could come with new weapons and armor.



Then we, those who don't want this kind of stuff, wouldn't get these weapons. I guess you guys could get a big fat **** that shoots out **** on other guys, and for you gals a big, stretched ***** that shoots ****** discharge all over other women for weapons. That sounds nice.


I'm joking. Seriously though, I wanna see the responses to this Image IPB

Modifié par Rendar666, 23 janvier 2010 - 06:26 .