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Mox Ruuga wrote...

I wonder why the Thane fans are so silent... They used to be more vocal than the Garrus fans in the old forum. Perhaps most of them leaped right back to fangirling Garrus when he was confirmed.

Argh, 6 love interests and only two of them are in any way appealing to me. And I might hook up one of my Renegades with SuZe.

Garrus is only about as confirmed as Thane is (i.e., not officially). Plus, maybe they realized that Thane is ugly.

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Actually Thane has already been confirmed in the Best Buy chat. Made from the ground up to be purely a malien love interest it seems.

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Jake the snake 34 wrote...

Umm, i don't...



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It takes away time from something not as useless to be added. If it wasn't important enough to be in the game. There's enough romances in the game....Weapons, armor, and missions are more important.


New weapons and armor are useless in a single player game; a same sex romance DLC would actually add more to the experience. Plus, it could come with new weapons and armor.



Then we, those who don't want this kind of stuff, wouldn't get these weapons. I guess you guys could get a big fat **** that shoots out **** on other guys, and for you gals a big, stretched ***** that shoots ****** discharge all over other women for weapons. That sounds nice.


I'm joking. Seriously though, I wanna see the responses to this Image IPB

;) what eva floats your boat

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Whoops. I forgot about that. Nevermind what I said.

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danman2424 wrote...
Political correctness has already ruined enough things. I'm sick of every movie, game, and television show feeling like they have to include a positive black, hispanic, asian, female, etc. figure in the cast.


Do you really think that having diversity in the cast has ruined movies and TV shows? Seriously?

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Still I ask, why does Mass Effect have to cater to peoples varied sexual preferences? Seriously I feel sorry for Bioware who gave an inch now people want the whole mile. If there are those who feel strongly that there should be a Sci-Fi video game with homosexuality in it then please go and create such a game. This whole thing of sexual relationships in Mass Effect has gotten blown way out of proportion. Perhaps Shepard and crew have more important issues at stake than making out in the supply closet. Why do we assume there is homosexuality in other races of beings? Seriously, let it go. The story and characters of Mass Effect are as they are, if you don't like it then play some other game.


Why don't you let it go?

We don't want a mile, just a f/f or m/m romance. If you can have 6 m/f ones why can't we have ours? More important issues? LOL. Like how many women ya can bang on a ship? I repeat 6 m/f romances...Image IPB

You know what? How about they just take out ALL the m/f romances and have nothing at all. I mean the mission is more important after all... Image IPB

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Being gay, I can say that this isn't the first time we've been shafted...



Seriously though, people can just use this from an RPG standpoint if you guys are into that... feeling isolated and alone and so on. This is probably what I am gonna do and its something that gays can probably relate to at some point in their lives.



PS: No M/M > Something like M/Zev in DA?

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I'm neutral on a F/F M/M DLC tbh. Personally I wouldn't buy it unless I felt like making a kinky lesbian Shepard for my personal amusement. In my point of view this is a minor detail. Some may disagree though.

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Yay, finnaly! This page didn't have a gay and lesbian topic yet.



I'm so glad, you guys out there found the point of the game.



I demand krogan M/M action!

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As said in the other thread, I can understand that some people don't want this in their game. I wouldn't want to see my male Shepard to have a romance with another man either, though I'm all for implementing it as a choice for those who want it. It's not exactly as if the romances in ME 1 were so long and detailed that it'd have meant ever so much more work. But apparently BioWare and/or EA think this would more hurt their sales than benefit. So be it.

Nevertheless, I still can't understand why people seem to think that a relationship between humans of the same gender could somehow be worse than a relationship between a human and an extraterrestrial life form. There are already people here who have the nerves to ask "What's next? Animals?" Guess what. I wouldn't go as far as calling the aliens animals, but humans they are not, that's for damn sure. Most reasons you bring up against gay or lesbian romances, would apply there as well, I think. But feel free to explain the differences, that way this thread should at least continue to provide good reading.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 23 janvier 2010 - 06:48 .


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AlanC9 wrote...

danman2424 wrote...
Political correctness has already ruined enough things. I'm sick of every movie, game, and television show feeling like they have to include a positive black, hispanic, asian, female, etc. figure in the cast.


Do you really think that having diversity in the cast has ruined movies and TV shows? Seriously?

I feel that forced diversity in a cast has hampered TV/film. We're at a point where you can't even portray a rapist as anything other than white on TV because the amount of complaints and protest a network would get about a black, hispanic, gay, etc. having a non-positive portrayal or role model would hammer them into the ground. Every squad, crew, and/or office on television has a cast member of just about every possible background crammed in just to appease the whiners that cry their "group" isn't represented often enough or well enough.

It's unrealistic and it's the exact opposite of equality.

Modifié par danman2424, 23 janvier 2010 - 07:02 .


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Still I ask, why does Mass Effect have to cater to peoples varied sexual preferences? Seriously I feel sorry for Bioware who gave an inch now people want the whole mile. If there are those who feel strongly that there should be a Sci-Fi video game with homosexuality in it then please go and create such a game. This whole thing of sexual relationships in Mass Effect has gotten blown way out of proportion. Perhaps Shepard and crew have more important issues at stake than making out in the supply closet. Why do we assume there is homosexuality in other races of beings? Seriously, let it go. The story and characters of Mass Effect are as they are, if you don't like it then play some other game.


1)Maybe you're new, but its a Bioware thing for quite some time now.

2)THE M/M ROMANCE IN ME1 WAS VOICE RECORDED, just not implimented. It says the ME1 was originally intended to have same-sex pairings.

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So nice to see people can be civil around here.  That goes for both sides, enough with the nonsense.

Anyway, I would like to see a M/M romance as DLC (if there isn't one in-game already). ^_^

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[quote]danman2424 wrote...

[quote]AlanC9 wrote...

[quote]danman2424 wrote...
Political correctness has already ruined enough things. I'm sick of every movie, game, and television show feeling like they have to include a positive black, hispanic, asian, female, etc. figure in the cast.
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(...) It's unrealistic and it's the exact opposite of equality.[/quote]

No it`s not. The world and western nations especially have a wide range of different people. In America many hispanics and blacks, in Germany many turkish, vietnamese and blacks. Ignore them would be unrealistic.
In the end, media has it`s responsibility. Of course, if you start to make the opposit it`s also not right, I agree in this point.

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SethSteiner wrote...

No it`s not. The world and western nations especially have a wide range of different people. In America many hispanics and blacks, in Germany many turkish, vietnamese and blacks. Ignore them would be unrealistic.
In the end, media has it`s responsibility. Of course, if you start to make the opposit it`s also not right, I agree in this point.


Where did I say we should ignore them?

Modifié par danman2424, 23 janvier 2010 - 07:32 .


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I never said, you said that.

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danman2424 wrote...

Grand Rider wrote...

My opinion is that these features should have been implemented from the get-go (Mass Effect 1). It saddens me that in this day and age the greater majority of society and by extension mainstream media can’t acknowledge that homosexuals exist and are as deserving of the same rights and privileges as anyone else.

Fifity years ago we’d be having this discussion about ethnicity, a hundred years ago it’d be about gender. It’s a damn shame, but I honestly believe that one day we’ll transcend these petty complications and everyone will be free and able to fully immerse themselves in quality role play games regardless of what they are or how they look.

To be fair to all of those that fought so hard for sex and and race equality, the inability to have sex with whomever or whatever you want in a video game is hardly discrimination or really anywhere close to being similar.


But it’s symptomatic of an injustice that’s pervasive in society. I just don’t see the harm in allowing homosexuals to be able to express their natural preferences in games. The characters are digital actors; there’s no technical hurdle to surmount, it’s purely a unethical design choice by the developer.

Why should I begrudge someone else the same fundamental desires I allow myself; that I take for granted every day?

I alluded to civil rights/representation because it’s exactly what this issue is about. In a game where we the player are allowed and encouraged through a range of tools to tailor our experience to match our tastes, there’s a sizable minority who have been left out in the cold. If said minority was female and/or non Caucasian there’d be a far greater uproar and justifiably so.

It wouldn’t be fair, because it would be possible yet not implemented, which wouldn’t be right. Just like this issue here in my opinion.

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danman2424 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

danman2424 wrote...
Political correctness has already ruined enough things. I'm sick of every movie, game, and television show feeling like they have to include a positive black, hispanic, asian, female, etc. figure in the cast.


Do you really think that having diversity in the cast has ruined movies and TV shows? Seriously?

I feel that forced diversity in a cast has hampered TV/film. We're at a point where you can't even portray a rapist as anything other than white on TV because the amount of complaints and protest a network would get about a black, hispanic, gay, etc. having a non-positive portrayal or role model would hammer them into the ground. Every squad, crew, and/or office on television has a cast member of just about every possible background crammed in just to appease the whiners that cry their "group" isn't represented often enough or well enough.

It's unrealistic and it's the exact opposite of equality.


i think it would only be a point of contension in television or film if they cast black/hispanic/whatever actor in lieu of a white actor that brought more to the role. in Mass Effect this isn't as much of an issue as we never see the people responsible for the voice talent. Jacob, for example, could be portrayed by a scrawny white albino female, and it would be irrelevant if her voice somehow fit the role.

this is all secondary to the topic at hand, though. people aren't asking for a a PC cast; they are asking for more choices in a game centered around choices.

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After you locate the Prothean (or Collector if you wish since they are now Reaper controlled) base within a black hole in the center of the galaxy where they have taken all the humans from the colonies (and your crew after the attack on the second Normandy) and you use the Omega 4 Mass Relay to reach the base. And after you discover they were using the captured humans to build a human Reaper and you destroy it and blow up the base leaving Miranda and a team mate of your choice behind (the one who you send to the ventilation system dies), you get the ending with you escaping back to known space and you have this huge army of hostile ships, I'd like to ask: what's the sex of these ships, are they Reapers or heretical (the Geth that attacks you are controlled by a Reaper virus and the other Geth call them heretics and fight them alongside you) Geth?

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17 Pages. Oh my.

This is a dumb idea from a business standpoint alone. Why would EA/Bioware release a DLC that is (quite obviously) not going to appeal to a big part of their original fanbase?

Brains. Use them, sometimes.

Modifié par Llane Lightbringer, 23 janvier 2010 - 08:07 .


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While I'm all for m/m and f/f romance options, I'd feel a bit strange about them being added some time after initial release as buy-able DLC. Wouldn't it just be a barren bone thrown to shut up a part of playerbase?

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Willie_on_Wheels wrote...

Who wants to see some homosexual romance options included in DLC? I for one wanna make this clear to Bioware. 


Yeah, sure.

k thx bye

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Llane Lightbringer wrote...

17 Pages. Oh my.

This is a dumb idea from a business standpoint alone. Why would EA/Bioware release a DLC that is (quite obviously) not going to appeal to a big part of their original fanbase?

Brains. Use them, sometimes.


Why should that not appeal? Many here want or at least accept F/F and M/M. Do you really want to try to talk for the whole fanbase?

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Console Cowboy wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

danman2424 wrote...
Political correctness has already ruined enough things. I'm sick of every movie, game, and television show feeling like they have to include a positive black, hispanic, asian, female, etc. figure in the cast.


Do you really think that having diversity in the cast has ruined movies and TV shows? Seriously?

I feel that forced diversity in a cast has hampered TV/film. We're at a point where you can't even portray a rapist as anything other than white on TV because the amount of complaints and protest a network would get about a black, hispanic, gay, etc. having a non-positive portrayal or role model would hammer them into the ground. Every squad, crew, and/or office on television has a cast member of just about every possible background crammed in just to appease the whiners that cry their "group" isn't represented often enough or well enough.

It's unrealistic and it's the exact opposite of equality.


i think it would only be a point of contension in television or film if they cast black/hispanic/whatever actor in lieu of a white actor that brought more to the role. in Mass Effect this isn't as much of an issue as we never see the people responsible for the voice talent. Jacob, for example, could be portrayed by a scrawny white albino female, and it would be irrelevant if her voice somehow fit the role.

this is all secondary to the topic at hand, though. people aren't asking for a a PC cast; they are asking for more choices in a game centered around choices.

It's a game with limited choices. It's not the holodeck.

Modifié par danman2424, 23 janvier 2010 - 08:32 .