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[zambingo]

The OGB = The Inquisitor is a totally plausible concept and requires no retcon.

The OGB is a god-being of unknown ability, born at an unknown time and an unknown place, who's then raised in unknown place(s).

The Fade is Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey.

"Bodies are such limiting things."

How the Dark Ritual actually worked was ill defined and Morrigan's whereabouts are immediately unaccounted for upon refusal. In addition another Warden option is available at this time. The player choice to not partake in the Dark Ritual is honored by their character not partaking in the Dark Ritual. The player however does not control Morrigan.

Not saying I want the OGB = The Inquisitor, I am saying that anyone that slams the idea has possibly not thought thru the scenario to realize just how simply plausible it is.

[AkiKishi]

The OGB was one of the few things that made sense why everyone would treat the PC like something special. I don't know what the actual reason is, I'm not expecting it to make as much sense as the OGB though.

[ElitePinecone]

But "hey guise Morrigan actually somehow did the Dark Ritual even though you specifically refused to do it and somehow had a god baby even though the Archdemon's soul was absorbed by [insert character], and said god baby ended up growing up to become a male/female qunari/elf/dwarf/human of indeterminate age"...

 

... is incredibly, stupidly contrived. Okay, it's possible - if you bend the circumstances to fit and trample all over a bunch of different player decisions - but is it remotely sensible? Likely?

 

Do you ever think in a thousand years that they would actually do this, and ignore the ending decision from Origins? 

 

Lots and lots of things can be retconned, written around, ignored or changed. That definitely doesn't make them likely, or a good idea.

[AresKeith]

The OGB = The Inquisitor is a totally plausible concept and requires no retcon.

The OGB is a god-being of unknown ability, born at an unknown time and an unknown place, who's then raised in unknown place(s).

The Fade is Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey.

"Bodies are such limiting things."

How the Dark Ritual actually worked was ill defined and Morrigan's whereabouts are immediately unaccounted for upon refusal. In addition another Warden option is available at this time. The player choice to not partake in the Dark Ritual is honored by their character not partaking in the Dark Ritual. The player however does not control Morrigan.

Not saying I want the OGB = The Inquisitor, I am saying that anyone that slams the idea has possibly not thought thru the scenario to realize just how simply plausible it is.

 

The OGB is optional, plus the baby is always male

 

And there's no way it can be a qunari

[Giggles_Manically]

The OGB is optional, plus the baby is always male

 

And there's no way it can be a qunari

He's right you know/MorganFreeman.

 

That basically sums it up right there.

[AkiKishi]

You could just transfer the soul to a new body. Maybe someone who died in the intro and problem solved.

[Giggles_Manically]

You could just transfer the soul to a new body. Maybe someone who died in the intro and problem solved.

You know if the DR was not done the soul is not even in existence anymore right?

[zambingo]

Elitepinecone, your point is [insert character] dies when killing the Archdemon without the Dark Ritual.

The Dark Ritual was ill defined. Morrigan tells you only what she believes will make you complete the ritual. 1. You live. 2. Sex sexy sex sex made even sexier sex because of sexy ritual sexiness sex.

There is no retcon required because the events are written so vaguely.

But back to Sera/Brillopad, them being the same person is more akin to some Star Wars fans after 1999 saying that Naboo would be Dagobah after some tragic event.

[Sol Downer]

What soul? Take in to account that the child would be normal if you died killing the Archdemon. No, there wouldn't be "another way" because there was no other Archdemon soul to absorb.

[AkiKishi]

You know if the DR was not done the soul is not even in existence anymore right?

 

Maybe, maybe not. It's one of the easier things to write around.

[ElitePinecone]

Elitepinecone, your point is [insert character] dies when killing the Archdemon without the Dark Ritual.

The Dark Ritual was ill defined. Morrigan tells you only what she believes will make you complete the ritual. 1. You live. 2. Sex sexy sex sex made even sexier sex because of sexy ritual sexiness sex.

There is no retcon required because the events are written so vaguely.

But back to Sera/Brillopad, them being the same person is more akin to some Star Wars fans after 1999 saying that Naboo would be Dagobah after some tragic event.

 

They've already said that if the Dark Ritual wasn't performed, there is no Old God Baby.

 

I think it's a silly idea, and they aren't doing it.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I continually get shocked by the realization that some folks still think of OGB as canon.

[zambingo]

Bendit Cucumberpatch was denied as being Khan until he was Khan.

I don't agree that it's silly, but I understand how someone can see it that way.

The word canon also gets thrown around a lot nowadays, what it really is meaning at this point is fanwank. Canon is only canon when canon shows it is canon. ;-)

[Wulfram]

OGB is a dude.

 

edit:  Also, not a Qunari

[LilyasAvalon]

I continually get shocked by the realization that some folks still think of OGB as canon.

It was arguably a fairly important plot point of Origins ending, I can't blame people for wanting to know more

[LilyasAvalon]

Well, latest tweet confirmed we're meeting them all it seems since it's Iron Bull. I'm pleased.

[ElitePinecone]

Dragon Age ‏@dragonage  2m

The Iron Bull: The Muscle. Learn more about him at #EAE3: http://bit.ly/U7ttKb  pic.twitter.com/zFG8nKalpd

 

[AresKeith]

 

Dragon Age ‏@dragonage  2m

The Iron Bull: The Muscle. Learn more about him at #EAE3: http://bit.ly/U7ttKb  pic.twitter.com/zFG8nKalpd

 

 

 

Burn that sword 

[Nyrang]

I would imagine 4 would be the simplest (Right through the mid section, cutting both arms off...) But that's just me...

[Eveangaline]

Elitepinecone, your point is [insert character] dies when killing the Archdemon without the Dark Ritual.

The Dark Ritual was ill defined. Morrigan tells you only what she believes will make you complete the ritual. 1. You live. 2. Sex sexy sex sex made even sexier sex because of sexy ritual sexiness sex.

There is no retcon required because the events are written so vaguely.

But back to Sera/Brillopad, them being the same person is more akin to some Star Wars fans after 1999 saying that Naboo would be Dagobah after some tragic event.

 

It's not written vaguely. When you complete the ritual you live and when you don't you die.

 

but to cut this tangent short http://forum.bioware.../#entry15371761

 

 

I'm not sure where the "but even if they refuse, the other Grey Wardens of the world may not have the same resolve..." comes from. Speculation on the part of the article writer, perhaps? Regardless, if the player refused the Dark Ritual then it was refused. There is no Old God Baby.

[CrazyRah]

 

Dragon Age ‏@dragonage  2m

The Iron Bull: The Muscle. Learn more about him at #EAE3: http://bit.ly/U7ttKb  pic.twitter.com/zFG8nKalpd

 

 

 

Quite like him already and i'd love to aid him in his ideas!

[Wulfram]

Definitely getting a Black Whirlwind vibe.

 

Not my favourite archetype, personally.

[Eveangaline]

 

Dragon Age ‏@dragonage  2m

The Iron Bull: The Muscle. Learn more about him at #EAE3: http://bit.ly/U7ttKb  pic.twitter.com/zFG8nKalpd

 

 

How do you cut someone into three pieces with one swing? Are they bent around or is your sword segmented? Or did you just spin all the way around like a ballerina and hit them a second time?

 

And I'm loving his armor.

[AkiKishi]

That's not actually possible unless his sword is shaped like a tuning fork.. Even if the movement is too fast to follow, the number of swings is a constant.

[ElitePinecone]

BTW, they're directing all of these "Meet the Heroes" tweets to the EA press conference page, which might be an indication that they'll reveal those characters in the press conference itself.

 

That's the one on Monday.