There we reactions to choices in ME3 e.g. Genophage omega dlc, but there are other things that add to the experience e.g. Character customization etc. but this discussion is for another thread so we can just agree to disagree.There's nothing to disagree with. It's all about making choices and having the gameworld react to those choices. When you remove that element it becomes an action game and not an RPG. It is what it is.
Since MP was successful its going to be in the next ME game.
ME2 didn't need MP to be one of the best games ever.
In fact, every game I've seen that has the focus shifted from campaign mode to MP has suffered big time. Games with good MP have a seriously sucky campaign mode.
If MP was meant to be the attraction, then why bother with a campaign mode?
Yes to less bugs, I beg of you. I occasionally ran into a glitch with the first two games but it doesn't come close to the list of things I have to remember to get through ME3. It's one thing to get randomly stuck in an elevator occasionally, another to consistently having to reload because you stepped into that quicksand in the cockpit.
Yes to less bugs, I beg of you. I occasionally ran into a glitch with the first two games but it doesn't come close to the list of things I have to remember to get through ME3. It's one thing to get randomly stuck in an elevator occasionally, another to consistently having to reload because you stepped into that quicksand in the cockpit.
Or worse, having to manually modify a savegame just to re-enable the Hanar side-quest, because you forgot to save at the last minute.
Uncahrted 2 and the last of us, had SP as the main focus but the MP was also well recived and both had add ons for them. The SP in ME3 was still its main feature, the MP was just an extra for those who want it and both SP and MP got plenty of DLC.ME2 didn't need MP to be one of the best games ever.
In fact, every game I've seen that has the focus shifted from campaign mode to MP has suffered big time. Games with good MP have a seriously sucky campaign mode.
If MP was meant to be the attraction, then why bother with a campaign mode?
and both SP and MP got plenty of DLC.
and you didn't have to pay a single dime for yours.........so you got nothing to complain about.
I brought both, SP (omega should have cost a bit less even if paying Carrie Anne Moss to VA is costly) and MP DLC, mp dlc dosen't take much effort to make, just a few models and maps so it's not surprising it's free. SP dlc requires voice acting (which the VA's need to be paid for), level design etc. which takes time and requires a lot more effort and resources to put out.and you didn't have to pay a single dime for yours.........so you got nothing to complain about.
Separating the two into independant games will help both SP and MP. What is the reasoning behind defending them to remain intertwined? It doesn't make sense. This argument that "it's easier for the devs" is moot and weak.
The less time they have to spend doing multiple things at once the more time they have to fully polish one aspect independently. The end result is a better product for both and it doesn't shoehorn the RP fanbase into purchasing something they don't play anyway.
Separating the two into independant games will help both SP and MP. What is the reasoning behind defending them to remain intertwined? It doesn't make sense. This argument that "it's easier for the devs" is moot and weak.
The less time they have to spend doing multiple things at once the more time they have to fully polish one aspect independently. The end result is a better product for both and it doesn't shoehorn the RP fanbase into purchasing something they don't play anyway.
Like I said MP is an extra and people can ignore them if they don't want to play its easier if they have both things in one package and SP focus games such as Uncharted 2 and The last of us didn't lose anything by having MP in them even when being sold along side the SP. When MP was being devolved Bioware had a separate team with its own resources, nothing was taken from SP.
Like I said MP is an extra and people can ignore them if they don't want to play its easier if they have both things in one package and SP focus games such as Uncharted 2 and The last of us didn't lose anything by having MP in them even when being sold along side the SP. When MP was being devolved Bioware had a separate team with its own resources, nothing was taken from SP.
I'm sorry... You're not seeing, or refusing to see, the bigger picture. I humbly yield to the redundancies of this as I've addressed each of your points, already. This is the last response to you, I will have on the matter.
I do see what your trying to say, its just my opinion is different than yours we'll just have to agree to disagree.I'm sorry... You're not seeing, or refusing to see, the bigger picture. I humbly yield to the redundancies of this as I've addressed each of your points, already. This is the last response I will have on the matter.
and you didn't have to pay a single dime for yours.........so you got nothing to complain about.
Exactly. And by essentially getting it for free, the money paid out to create this content is only reimbursed through sales of the SP game, because it was made as a part of the game as a whole. It's not separate resources as previously claimed by others.
The mp store made use of micro transactions so the MP would have gotten its profits from there instead of SP.Exactly. And by essentially getting it for free, the money paid out to create this content is only reimbursed through sales of the SP game, because it was made as a part of the game as a whole. It's not separate resources as previously claimed by others.
Every game has bugs, but ME3 got a bunch of really gamebraking ones never fixed and BW even added some bugs over time like Ashley's Marksman or the Executioner on Mars and stuff.
And I won't even start to talk about Origin cause I tend to get really mad when I do.
to which I'd say they never had to pay a single dime for their DLCs, unlike the SP crowd.
MP DLC, mp dlc dosen't take much effort to make
PRETTY SURE I bought the SP DLCs just like you, effectively paying for my MP balance changes. and everything else. PRETTY SURE people who paid for packs paid money in JUST LIKE YOU.
packs are optional. the DLCs themselves - optional or mandatory - never cost a dime.
So, I think silence is in order.
I got 4 cheeks, pick which one you want to kiss.
SP DLC's are optional. You don't have to buy them.
you do when you really like the game. if you don't like the game, high chances are you're not around by the time even the first DLC is announced, let alone released.
PRETTY SURE I bought the SP DLCs just like you, effectively paying for my MP balance changes. and everything else. PRETTY SURE people who paid for packs paid money in JUST LIKE YOU.
Everyone that pays for the SP game and the DLC cover the MP aspect. What some people fail to understand is that there is nothing else that generates enough revenue to compensate for the expenditures to use the manpower and resources to develop the MP. It taking away from the SP to be expanded upon and fix issues.
My wishlist for ME4 single player: Shepard, that is all 
There were two separate teams for SP and MP, Bioware Montreal did the MP DLC and Bioware Edmonton did the SP DLC, MP got most of its money from micro transactions in the MP store. When mp was being developed The devs were given extra resources to implement it into the game.Everyone that pays for the SP game and the DLC cover the MP aspect. What some people fail to understand is that there is nothing else that generates enough revenue to compensate for the expenditures to use the manpower and resources to develop the MP. It taking away from the SP to be expanded upon and fix issues.
Not as much as SP though.You're not making your point in a good way. MP DLC takes effort. Otherwise, PC would be abounding with fan-made DLC.
There were two separate teams for SP and MP, Bioware Montreal did the MP DLC and Bioware Edmonton did the SP DLC, MP got most of its money from micro transactions in the MP store. When mp was being developed The devs were given extra resources to implement it into the game.
I thought you said you understood. BM worked with BE as part of the ME team as a whole. They are under the same company umbrella. It makes no difference if they are in a separate building.
BM created content for the same game. They didn't make another game altogether. Unlike the next ME game. No matter how you want to spin it. The core issue remains the same. The efforts put into MP lessens the potential content for the SP.
This is the last response to you, I will have on the matter.
It seems I have reneged on my previous comment. I will strive to adhere to that.
I thought you said you understood. BM worked with BE as part of the ME team as a whole. They are under the same company umbrella. It makes no difference if they are in a separate building.
BM created content for the same game. They didn't make another game altogether. Unlike the next ME game. No matter how you want to spin it. The core issue remains the same. The efforts put into MP lessens the potential content for the SP.
Its not really that simple games can have both a great SP and a great MP, there are plenty of games that have done both SP and MP very well. EA is the one who provides the resources for game development, they gave them extra resources to allow development of it if there was no MP the there would be no extra resources, they didn't take anything from the SP.
http://askagamedev.tumblr.com/
You can ask this game dev about how MP development affects SP development don't expect an instant answer since it will require a bit of reading.
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