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[thetinyevil]

He knew that the reason for the ROA was bullshit. But he went along with it an basically whispered, "no...stop. Oh you didn't stop now the mage is dead. Oh well."

[Hanako Ikezawa]

He knew that the reason for the ROA was bullshit. But he went along with it an basically whispered, "no...stop. Oh you didn't stop now the mage is dead. Oh well."

No, he didn't. He wasn't there when Anders blew up the Chantry. The first he knew of the RoA was when Meredith arrived at the Gallows and told all Templars there to do it. 

[RenAdaar]

Hmmm I not really a fan of Cullen but I don't exactly hate his guts either. Hopefully inquisition will help me form a proper opinion of him.   

[thetinyevil]

No, he didn't. He wasn't there when Anders blew up the Chantry. The first he knew of the RoA was when Meredith arrived at the Gallows and told all Templars there to do it. 

He was with Meredith standing right behind her when the Chantry was blown up. He was right there when she called for the ROA.

[venusara]

I like him because he's got a strong sense of duty and has been open to changing his mind before.  He gets thrown around a lot by circumstances that are largely out of his control and he recovers each time.  I look forward to seeing what he becomes in DA:I.  Seriously, how scary would it be to be a Templar for 20+ years, possibly rarely even seeing the world outside of the Circles, and then suddenly it's all gone?  When your entire life has been a strict regimen the sudden freedom could be terrifying.  I'd personally feel lost.

This sounds like an interesting arc.

[Jean]

He was with Meredith standing right behind her when the Chantry was blown up. He was right there when she called for the ROA.

He wasn't there.

[Conquerthecity]

Cullen epitomizes "Meh" for me. I'm trying to keep an open mind, though. I could be surprised.

[kalasaurus]

Hmmm I not really a fan of Cullen but I don't exactly hate his guts either. Hopefully inquisition will help me form a proper opinion of him.   

 

Yeah, he's pretty much a background character in DA: O and DA2.  Since he's more in the forefront in DA: I, there should be plenty of opportunity for him to grow as a character.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

He was with Meredith standing right behind her when the Chantry was blown up. He was right there when she called for the ROA.

No, he wasn't.

 

[Eveangaline]

Thanks. But the first one has been shut down so it doesn't count.

That's still two threads you could have picked between to rez instead, or heck, made your post completely unnecessary because you don't have to ask if there's people that hate him, you have proof right there.

[phyreblade74]

Meredith:  "And if they hope to escape by playing innocent?  Will you accept that responsibility, Cullen?"
Cullen: "Yes.  I believe that's what being a Templar is about."

 

This is a world where magic is DANGEROUS.  The Lore of the game is rife with stories of horrid devastation visited upon their communities, their families -- by mages who became possessed -- of hundreds destroyed and killed in awful ways.  My own Warden visited Redcliffe, where on single mage who lacked guidance and training left an entire community nearly destroyed. 

 

Cullen is a Templar who believes -- really believes -- it's his responsibility to provide protection, as much to mages as anyone else.  It's to his credit that he believes that, actually, as he was at the receiving end of horrible torture by mages who fell to demonic possession.  He's incredibly strong a character, to have overcome so much and been made better for it.

[thetinyevil]

No, he wasn't.

 

Well ****. I thought he was. I stand corrected. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well ****. I thought he was. I stand corrected. 

You may have been thinking of Carver if you let him become a Templar.

[Lorien19]

I like him because he's got a strong sense of duty and has been open to changing his mind before.  He gets thrown around a lot by circumstances that are largely out of his control and he recovers each time.  I look forward to seeing what he becomes in DA:I.  Seriously, how scary would it be to be a Templar for 20+ years, possibly rarely even seeing the world outside of the Circles, and then suddenly it's all gone?  When your entire life has been a strict regimen the sudden freedom could be terrifying.  I'd personally feel lost.

This is pretty much what I find interesting about him...Plus the fact that he's seen worst of both worlds(mages vs templars),also knows first hand what red lyrium is capable of.

Most importantly his evolution from the timid recruit,to a more reasonable and sceptic knight-captain and now to a potential leader of the Inquisitor's armies/military advisor.He has quite the arc yet he's only been a minor character so far.

[Mrs_Stick]

If you have not done a endgame siding with the Templar's you should just for content purposes. A few mages hand themselves over and if Hawke agrees with Cullen they spare them. So no he did not go into that with a kill all mage's attitude. He suggest to spare them because they turned themselves in and not all the mage's in the circle are blood mage's he was trying to lessen the slaughter. 

[thetinyevil]

Meredith:  "And if they hope to escape by playing innocent?  Will you accept that responsibility, Cullen?"
Cullen: "Yes.  I believe that's what being a Templar is about."

 

This is a world where magic is DANGEROUS.  The Lore of the game is rife with stories of horrid devastation visited upon their communities, their families -- by mages who became possessed -- of hundreds destroyed and killed in awful ways.  My own Warden visited Redcliffe, where on single mage who lacked guidance and training left an entire community nearly destroyed. 

 

Cullen is a Templar who believes -- really believes -- it's his responsibility to provide protection, as much to mages as anyone else.  It's to his credit that he believes that, actually, as he was at the receiving end of horrible torture by mages who fell to demonic possession.  He's incredibly strong a character, to have overcome so much and been made better for it.

Yes this means it's okay to treat them worse then animals. To take away even the most basic of rights. Also they vow is to protect the world from mages and mages from themselves. That isn't a vow to protect mages, that is a vow to put them down if they become dangerous or if they templars think the mage might be dangerous or in Alirk's case wants a new sex toy.

[thetinyevil]

You may have been thinking of Carver if you let him become a Templar.

I think you're right. 

[Eveangaline]

If you have not done a endgame siding with the Templar's you should just for content purposes. A few mages hand themselves over and if Hawke agrees with Cullen they spare them. So no he did not go into that with a kill all mage's attitude. He suggest to spare them because they turned themselves in and not all the mage's in the circle are blood mage's he was trying to lessen the slaughter. 

 

Which never made a lick of sense to me. Literally the only reason the mages are fighting is because they don't want to all get killed. Orsino twice went to meredith and was all "we'll agree to stricter rules just don't kill us we're not all blood mages" and she said no. Then suddenly a group (that has bethany) comes along and asks for the exact same thing orsino did and they let them go? The fight literally should have ended then. The mages should have just been like "Oh ok we'll stop now since you agreed not to murder people who don't fight, which we asked you to do twice already but I guess third times the charm?" Like literally the mages only demand was 'don't kill us'. The fight had no reason to continue past the templars agreeing to spare those who don't fight.

 

It kiiiinda feels tacked on just so you don't have to kill betheny if you're siding with the templars.

[thetinyevil]

If you have not done a endgame siding with the Templar's you should just for content purposes. A few mages hand themselves over and if Hawke agrees with Cullen they spare them. So no he did not go into that with a kill all mage's attitude. He suggest to spare them because they turned themselves in and not all the mage's in the circle are blood mage's he was trying to lessen the slaughter. 

You do realize that they were most likely made tranquil right. And besides if Hawke isn't there to back him up, his efforts to try and save the mages are just lip serves. It is an empty attempt.

[kalasaurus]

Yes this means it's okay to treat them worse then animals. To take away even the most basic of rights. Also they vow is to protect the world from mages and mages from themselves. That isn't a vow to protect mages, that is a vow to put them down if they become dangerous or if they templars think the mage might be dangerous or in Alirk's case wants a new sex toy.

 

Well, he doesn't think that mages should be treated like people.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Yes this means it's okay to treat them worse then animals. To take away even the most basic of rights. Also they vow is to protect the world from mages and mages from themselves. That isn't a vow to protect mages, that is a vow to put them down if they become dangerous or if they templars think the mage might be dangerous or in Alirk's case wants a new sex toy.

The Templar Evangeline protects Wynne, Rhys, and the others from an angry mob. The Templars do protect the mages from the world. Before the Templar Order was created, the mages were hunted down in witch hunts. 

[phyreblade74]

Yes this means it's okay to treat them worse then animals. To take away even the most basic of rights. Also they vow is to protect the world from mages and mages from themselves. That isn't a vow to protect mages, that is a vow to put them down if they become dangerous or if they templars think the mage might be dangerous or in Alirk's case wants a new sex toy.

 

They might be hunted and outright killed in ordinary communities.  How much better would that be?  Would you appreciate a world where some young child who "accidently" throws a fireball is attacked and destroyed by a mob of people, or one where that child is brought into the security of the circle, where he might grow and learn to control his abilities? 

 

And as I recall, Cullen didn't get overly upset with my Hawke when she destroyed Alirk.

[thetinyevil]

The Templar Evangeline protects Wynne, Rhys, and the others from an angry mob. The Templars do protect the mages from the world. Before the Templar Order was created, the mages were hunted down in witch hunts. 

And she also put the blame firmly on the mage's shoulders. She blames them when they are hassled by a bunch of drunk a$$holes.

[Mrs_Stick]

I will say this once and then leave. Not all Templar's are the same, the order has changed greatly from what it once was. Templars existed to protect the "normal" people from them and also to protect the Mages from the people as their fear could be just as bad. Cullen does what he does because yes he is a Templar and it is his duty. But the order has gone far beyond what it was when founded. I do not want to get into an argument here. I am Pro Mage, Pro Chantry and Templar destruction.

I still love Cullen as a character, would make the games less fun if we just all loved everyone of them o so much!!

[Eveangaline]

They might be hunted and outright killed in ordinary communities.  How much better would that be?  Would you appreciate a world where some young child who "accidently" throws a fireball is attacked and destroyed by a mob of people, or one where that child is brought into the security of the circle, where he might grow and learn to control his abilities? 

 

And as I recall, Cullen didn't get overly upset with my Hawke when she destroyed Alirk.

 

To be fair "it's either templars or mages running amock" is a false dichotomy. Honestly I'm king of hoping in inquisition we have the chance to end the templar order and put in a system where the mages work to govern themselves but have to face regulation from their government to make sure they are properly teaching the younger mages and that no abuses or funny business is going on, and more freedom for adult mages who have proven ability to resist posession.

 

But that's off topic, sorry.