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[The Ascendant]

In role playing games I always go for magic users and magic oriented characters. In the Dragon Age universe magic and magi are a contentious issue. With the return of race selection and greater depth of character creation I find myself more befuddled in how to create my mage Inquisitor. Should I be human, elf or Qunari. I will describe each race's attitude and magical capabilities that we know of in the hopes of discovering which is the better magi.
Humans: The most widespread and divided race in Thedas has many views in regards to mages. Most people fear or hate them, confining them to the Circles where they master their magic and are kept under supervision of the Chantry. Those who do not are apostates who capabilities vary greatly. Some can be as powerful as Malcolm Hawke or Flemeth whilst others appear as Emile. The greatest place for arcane lore is the Tevinter Imperium, founded and ruled by mages even to this day. However it is universally reviled because of this. Though it is a fraction of its former glory it once ruled the entire world. Tevinter mages are perhaps the best and worst kind of mages. Those who are powerful live like kings, but they obtain it in the most vile of ways.
Elves: As revealed in the Masked Empire not all elves possessed magic their ancient civilization similar to modern Tevinter ironically. The most powerful of their mages the dreamers could enter a death like sleep and live for an extended amount of time. Those who no longer required sustenance obtaining a form of immortality. Much of their ancient culture was lost due to the fall of the Dales and Arlathan. The existence of the Eluvians proof of their magical ingenuity. The Dalish have recovered as much as they can but despite only possessing only fragments Dalish mages are formidable and can be very powerful. Their knowledge of magic perhaps rivalled only by Tevinter magisters.
Qunari: Despite seeking knowledge, wisdom and order of the world the Qunari believe magic can never be understood or controlled. They call their mages Saarebas, literally a dangerous thing. They are treated often no better than attack dogs. This fear of magic is both a strength and weakness of the Qunari. This has allowed them to progress technologically but stagnate in the area of magical research. They have many ways of dealing with magi. From a control rod to a collar which prevents them from employing magic. Their treatment of magi is both sad and ignorant. If they would simply treat magi like everyone else and expand upon their knowledge of the arcane they would be unstoppable if they put all the passion they but into their technology as they do their magic. Their mages while not as skilled as elves or humans can be considerable as seen in the Qunari Invasion of Kirkwall and the actions of a lone Saarebas in Redemption. However due to the isolationist nature of the Qunari we know little of the explicit reasons behind this paranoia.
So who do you think would be a better mage?

[MattH]

It seems that quanri mages are inherently powerful, particularly if DA2s gameplay was anything to go by (seriously, I hated seeing them pop up on the battle field, I sent my rogue straight over to put a stop to that nonsense)

[Hellion Rex]

It seems that quanri mages are inherently powerful, particularly if DA2s gameplay was anything to go by (seriously, I hated seeing them pop up on the battle field, I sent my rogue straight over to put a stop to that nonsense)

God, I want that damn lightning spell that knocked us flat on our asses in that DA2 cutscene.

[MisterJB]

A dead mage.

[jlb524]

I thought it was the elves.

 

Could be the qunari...what if they were given more freedom and could reach their potential?

 

shiiiiiii-

 

I am going to play both an elven and qunari mage in DA:I btw.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Doesn't that depends on individual not race? it doesn't seem that there is any racial factor that makes qunari or elves better than humans in magic.

 

God, I want that damn lightning spell that knocked us flat on our asses in that DA2 cutscene.

 

Well it doesn't seems more impressive than other stronger than averge mages did fireball would give you smiliar effect especially that was suprise attack besides hardly we can judge entire race on 1 individual as it could be powerful mage and rather was it would be like judging darkspawn on hurlock omega example.  

[themikefest]

My femquisitor will be the better mage and the most powerful mage

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Doesn't that depends on individual not race? it doesn't seem that there is any racial factor that makes qunari or elves better than humans in magic.

 

 

Well it doesn't seems more impressive than other stronger than averge mages did fireball would give you smiliar effect especially that was suprise attack besides hardly we can judge entire race on 1 individual as it could be powerful mage and rather was it would be like judging darkspawn on hurlock omega example.  

eluvianix said he wanted that spell, not that all Saarebas were as powerful as that Saarebas. 

[lane]

I think i don't really care about the difference between mage races ! i mean, weither you're a human mage ,an elven mage or a qunari mage , the most important stays that you're a mage !!! because Now in inquisition ,all that matter is weither your gonna be a supporter of the mage plight or not ! no matter whats your race ,no matter from where you come ,it is all the same ,cause now ,the things are bigger than this details ! cause now  they all gonna stand hands in hands and fight for their forsaken rights at last.  Qunaris need to stands for this rights there are treated like blasted dogs and my heart almost broke when i saw how they bonded their mages and made them kneel . they hold to their great values and still swear only by their order .their fellows could have used their powers and fight aside them and they could have been fearless ! but their ignorance and own fear have blinded them . 

Humans and elfs are gonna finally stand their ground and put an end to this nightmare .the oppression is coming to an end, no more childs ripped from their mothers ,no more families betraying their own childs cause they think their a curse ,a sin or just because they fear them. no more isolation from the rest of the world and no more torture and lobotomization from the slightest mistakes or just for sadistic pleasures.

 

Yet for my part...am still having a hard time deciding if my mean playthrough gonna be with a mage or white weapon fighter (for my part a warrior) cause ,as much as i love play as a mage and love to lead in my own way the revolution and specially mark thedas as the mage savior of the whole world, i like to think that it could be more meaningful or more inspiring to know that an no-mage had supported the plight of mages  at all costs and fought beside them and for them. That not only mages are concerned by this revolution so to proove a point . ... (but have a feeling i won't resist starting with a mage ~) 

At least i already decided that i'll import the save with the mage hawke (cause for some reasons i found a mage hawke standing for his rights beside anders is both so powerful  and hot ). And i hope at some part am gonna meet them both ! Perhaps giving a big heroic speech in front hundred of mages or just on the run hands in hands ~ 

[Eveangaline]

I admit I'm wondering what your backstory is for training if you're a mage. Dalish have the obvious answer that they were trained by other dalish mages, but an apostate human or an apostate tal-vashoth?

 

(Or are they circle mages? I imagine it'd be an odd circle that would have one of the giants among their folks)

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I admit I'm wondering what your backstory is for training if you're a mage. Dalish have the obvious answer that they were trained by other dalish mages, but an apostate human or an apostate tal-vashoth?

 

(Or are they circle mages? I imagine it'd be an odd circle that would have one of the giants among their folks)

The Human Mage is believed to be a former Circle Mage while the Qunari is an apostate. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

eluvianix said he wanted that spell, not that all Saarebas were as powerful as that Saarebas. 

and i said that spell wasn't different than more powerful mages can do not mention that gameplay wise it will at best took some damage and stun enemy doesn't mean that your character can't do that i doubt that would be problem if he can do that

[SerCambria358]

I think Qunari mages are generally more powerful because they are only used for combat and war, with the exception of Tevinter Battle mages, no other faction specializes their mages in that way.

[jlb524]

Doesn't that depends on individual not race? it doesn't seem that there is any racial factor that makes qunari or elves better than humans in magic.

 

 

The 'most powerful' mage could be a human but I think the OP wants to know if any races have more of an affinity for magic over the others.

 

Example, in DA;O, elves got a +2 bonus to Magic so one would think their mages are generally are more powerful as a group.

 

Not sure if these racial bonuses will even be in DA:I.

[lane]

I think Qunari mages are generally more powerful because they are only used for combat and war, with the exception of Tevinter Battle mages, no other faction specializes their mages in that way.

i like to believe that any one could be a powerful mage ,even an apostate with no training. after all hawke was an apostate and was more likely powerful .but he's still can't hold the definition of power just cause DA2 was around him . So no matter from where the mage inquisitor would come from ,even if its from the sewers of darktown ,i would find it more inspiring than any great saraabas or magister or acomplished circle mage !

[ISpeakTheTruth]

It seems that quanri mages are inherently powerful, particularly if DA2s gameplay was anything to go by (seriously, I hated seeing them pop up on the battle field, I sent my rogue straight over to put a stop to that nonsense)

 

Except the Codex specifically states that the Qunari mages were inferior to the Tevinter and Circle mages because they had no training in magic and were little more than animals. It was Thedas' vast advantage in magic that finally pushed the Qunari back.

 

 

I've always played my main as a human mage and that's going to be the same with DAI. I find that I can relate better to a human character while also having magic be the thing that makes you an outsider which is something that everyone can relate to in a one form or another.

[TheKomandorShepard]

The 'most powerful' mage could be a human but I think the OP wants to know if any races have more of an affinity for magic over the others.

 

Example, in DA;O, elves got a +2 bonus to Magic so one would think their mages are generally are more powerful as a group.

 

Not sure if these racial bonuses will even be in DA:I.

 

Well as far there is no elves are born mages stereotype in dao as i said everything depends on individual.

[SerCambria358]

i like to believe that any one could be a powerful mage ,even an apostate with no training. after all hawke was an apostate and was more likely powerful .but he's still can't hold the definition of power just cause DA2 was around him . So no matter from where the mage inquisitor would come from ,even if its from the sewers of darktown ,i would find it more inspiring than any great saraabas or magister or acomplished circle mage !

Anyone has the potential to be a powerful mage but on average Qunari mages would likely be the more powerful (with the exception of tevinter mages) due to them only having one purpose. Yes a circle mage will learn more spells and how to control the powers they are given but experience wise, Qunari saarabas take the advantage by far.

 

Yes it would be inspirational but that doesnt mean it'll happen all the time, Hawke is one person out of a thousand

[KainD]

I don't personally see any connection between race and mage power. Mage is a race of it's own, regardless of subrace, and each mage has their own powerlevel. 

[Eveangaline]

I don't personally see any connection between race and mage power. Mage is a race of it's own, regardless of subrace, and each mage has their own powerlevel. 

Except for dwarves, who make the worst mages.

[Todd23]

Except for dwarves, who make the worst mages.

It's been hinted at, that elves are a bit more proficient with magic than humans and I'm guessing kossith are naturally better with magic. Considering that the sarabasses training would have had extremely little to do with magic and yet there power is so destructive an overwhelming that they are one of the more powerful mages in all of da2.

[KainD]

It's been hinted at, that elves are a bit more proficient with magic than humans and I'm guessing kossith are naturally better with magic. Considering that the sarabasses training would have had extremely little to do with magic and yet there power is so destructive an overwhelming that they are one of the more powerful mages in all of da2.

 

No, elves are not more proficient with magic, proficiency varies from individual to individual. And Saarebas spend their time fighting on the battlefield, while other mages that we have seen in DA2 are scrubs with little to no battle experience, obviously Saarebas are better. 

[Joe25]

Well I find that two mages are better than one. The first, I set up as an attack mage with primal and shield spells. Then other, I set up as a healer with just enough attacks and shields to live if the time comes for close combat. Though, with the new health system and no healing specialization as yet. I find myself having to rethink my mix of spells.