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[Han Shot First]

In DA it really depends on the individual. Except for the dwarves, I believe all the other races have about the same potential with magic. It doesn't mirror some other fantasy settings where the elves usually have a greater connection to magic.

[Lulupab]

Also didn't elves had more chance of producing mage children (percent wise)? There are a lot of elf mages even though the elves are minority in human societies. We are not even counting Dalish mages.

[Maferath]

Also didn't elves had more chance of producing mage children (percent wise)? There are a lot of elf mages even though the elves are minority in human societies. We are not even counting Dalish mages.

I don't know about elves in general, but the Dalish do seem to have a larger proportion of mages. Zathrian had several apprentices before Lanaya became his First, and that was just one clan. There's also their belief that all elvhen were mages in the time of Arlathann.

 

Of course, it could just be the result of them not locking up their mages and letting their blood mix with the rest of the population.

[The Ascendant]

I find the nature of magic somewhat similar to the mutants in X-Men. They have extraordinary powers yet they are discriminated against. Some claim they are evolved individuals, outliers while others consider them an entirety different species. In Dragon Age magic is more chaotic, fitting considering that it is based in the realm of change the Fade. However the fact that the magisters of Tevinter kept genealogical records of mage children means they can somewhat predict what pairings might produce magical offspring. However it is a random trait the one that produces magi, because if it was the Qunari would have suppressed it due to their selective breeding programs. The same seems to be true for elves but they trade magical children with other clans to keep the number of mages to a minimum due to the dangers of magic.Hopefully we can get a better understanding of the science behind magic in Inquisition.

[lane]

Anyone has the potential to be a powerful mage but on average Qunari mages would likely be the more powerful (with the exception of tevinter mages) due to them only having one purpose. Yes a circle mage will learn more spells and how to control the powers they are given but experience wise, Qunari saarabas take the advantage by far.

 

Yes it would be inspirational but that doesnt mean it'll happen all the time, Hawke is one person out of a thousand

i know ,tevinter and saarabas are likely very powerful for just the average one of them ,but my point is , i still don't know what background we gonna get for the mage inquisitor ~ i hope there will be more than one choice ! as i know i'll choose a male human ,i would personally prefere someone with no experience as just an apostate on the run or better a unfamous mage guy somewhere who didnt know about the greaness of his power yet !

[The Ascendant]

Now that I think about it I think elves are more attuned to magic than the other races. Remember according to the wiki, magic plays a greater role when it comes to cross breeding between humans and elves than genetics. Hence why there are no half elves, only humans with elven features. 

[Gervaise]

I don't think any one race is more magically accomplished than any other or has greater proportion of mages.   The Dalish certainly don't have a large proportion of mages.   We were told that Merrill didn't originally belong to that clan but had been given to them at one of the big gatherings (hence the explanation for why her accent was different from theirs) because they didn't have any potential mages of their own and the First it would appear has to be a mage because the Keeper is a mage.    I seem to recall Mahariel's father was Keeper of the clan before he was killed by humans, so clearly the magic wasn't passed on to his offspring.    Zathrian selected an outsider for his First, even though there were other candidates (although I never saw any evidence of other mages in their camp) so that would suggest that even if they had magical ability, they were not particularly talented.

 

The best mages would appear to be those with strength of character and will, so they can resist the tricks of demons (even if they do deals with them), keep their emotions in check enough that they do not become a target for possession and be self assured enough to still think of their magic as a gift, not a curse, so haven't been brow beaten by the propaganda of the Chantry and Circles.

 

I liked playing Hawke best as a Spirit Healer and Force Mage combined with the Fire/Ice combo.   When Fenris first suggested taking on the Arishok in single combat I honestly thought he was trying to get me killed but as it turned out, he was no match for Hawke's magical power, which made sense since their attitude to mages meant he probably wasn't that experienced in having to deal with magical attacks.   The only Hawke that brought him down quicker was my Shadow/Assassin.

 

I definitely intend playing my first Inquisitor as a mage, unless the background of one of the other classes seems more interesting.   Since the veil tear probably came about as a result of strong magic, it seems only appropriate to balance things out and have a mage responsible for closing it.    As for race, I am torn because I had already developed a human mage with an interesting background for the short story competition last year and really wanted to run with him.   But for pure irony and the biggest challenge in persuading people to accept me, I would think an elf mage (particularly a Dalish elf mage) would be about as hard as it gets (apart from may be a Qunari mage).   I do like a challenge.

[The Ascendant]

Hmmm very interesting. Perhaps magic is less to do with race and more to do with personal attitudes and experiences. Looking forward to being the Dalish Mage. Exploring the Dales will be more heartfelt and personal this way. 

[EmperorSahlertz]

Except the Codex specifically states that the Qunari mages were inferior to the Tevinter and Circle mages because they had no training in magic and were little more than animals. It was Thedas' vast advantage in magic that finally pushed the Qunari back.

 

 

I've always played my main as a human mage and that's going to be the same with DAI. I find that I can relate better to a human character while also having magic be the thing that makes you an outsider which is something that everyone can relate to in a one form or another.

That isn't entirely accurate. Initially the mages of Thedas were far more powerful than the Qunari mages, and certainly played a huge part in pushing the Qunari back. But during the fighting the Qunari trained their mages, and at some point the Saarebas were quite profecient in at least battle magic, that they were capable of taking Kirkwall.

 

 

I don't personally see any connection between race and mage power. Mage is a race of it's own, regardless of subrace, and each mage has their own powerlevel. 

Except that they really aren't though...

[The Ascendant]

Qunari Saarebas are impressive in battle magic, after all they are a part of the army. But magic isn't solely used to kill people. It heals, creates and expands our knowledge of the world. Tevinters and the Dalish have made marvellous magical artifacts, from the Eluvians, the Magrallens and other devices. The Qunari have only made items used to restrain magic. Magical research opens up whole new areas in terms of power, knowledge and a greater understanding of the world. Being a mage offers you great power and risks but being able to explore the Fade is one aspect which has always fascinated me. Exploring this world so dissimilar to our own, which is the source of dreams and magic is an intriguing area. Looking forward to exploring it and unlocking the secrets of magic as a Dalish Elf Mage.

[EmissaryofLies]

Fiona is the greatest mage of all time.....Of all time!

 

Obviously I am a sucker for elven or Dalish Mages if you want to be particular.

[Lulupab]

Fiona is the greatest mage of all time.....Of all time!

 

Obviously I am a sucker for elven or Dalish Mages if you want to be particular.

 

Right to this moment she has cast the most powerful of magics without being possessed or an unnatural case like Flemeth. She is the strongest normal mage we have seen so far.

[Hellion Rex]

Right to this moment she has cast the most powerful of magics without being possessed or an unnatural case like Flemeth. She is the strongest normal mage we have seen so far.

Ummm, based on what exactly? What powerful magic has she done?

[Lulupab]

Ummm, based on what exactly? What powerful magic has she done?

 

Well based on The Calling novel she obliterated brood mothers and god knows what and every grey warden in her company admitted that they owed their life to her offensive and healing magic. Also her mastery over magic is quite good, she was in many tempting situations but never gave in.

 

The only other candidate is Anders, based on his short story. Killing people who train for years to counter his kind with a single spell but he was possessed. Although Awakening epilogue gives him some credit too, piling up hundreds of darkspawn corpses defending the vigil.

 

But we should notice that we haven't seen that many mages in action.

 

Edit: I mean unpossessed normal mages.

[The Baconer]

I would like to know more about how Saarebas develop their talents. At the moment their application seems to be in the manner of un-tethering a wild animal and pointing it in the direction of one's enemies, but wouldn't that put them at a higher risk of possession when magic is used in such a manner? Do the Qunari have their own tomes, or some kind of records of magical knowledge? Do they utilize the Saarebas for more than just offensive prowess?

[Gwydden]

What I find curious is that I recall reading somewhere that when humans first arrived to Thedas they didn't have any mages, and I think it was the elves who somehow helped them establish a connection with the Fade. If this is true and I'm not inadvertently making up crazy stuff, how did qunari mages come to be? 

[mikeymoonshine]

I don't think we should ever really take gameplay as an example of which mage's are more or less powerful. It depends on the mage. I think Tervinter mages would probably be the most powerful (or at least the bloodmage one's) on average. 

[MattH]

How would you rank our companion mages? Who would be at the top?

[Hellion Rex]

How would you rank our companion mages? Who would be at the top?

From DAO, DAA, DA2 (just in terms of raw power)

-Morrigan

-Wynne

-Anders

-Merrill

-Velanna

[lane]

How would you rank our companion mages? Who would be at the top?

my top mage is Anders.

Second ,i really liked Wynne in the game ,she was very sweet like a compasionate mother .(i always liked to think somewhere, she was anders creation's teacher ) Then probably morrigan and then merrill 

[MattH]

Not just from a gameplay stance but lore wise as well, Morrigan did manage to get the eluvian working without the use if blood magic (as far as I can remember)

[Lulupab]

What makes Morrigan so much powerful than Velanna or Merrill? They're all nukers. Just with slightly different default specs (mostly ones that help them in close range situations).

 

As much as I don't like him, I think Anders is better than all. He's like a mage Reaver...who can heal himself. Only Hawke is better.

 

I have tested and confirmed with others that in fact Anders deals more damage than mage Hawke (also have much lesser time on cooldowns which is one of the reasons he deals more damage) but power is not about just damage. Hawke has far more utility such as crowd control, debuffs etc... therefore Hawke is a better mage in general.

 

And lore wise, well just read his short story. However he is possessed aka infinite connection to the fade/having a piece of the fade inside him. Morrigan is not possessed.

[Hellion Rex]

And lore wise, well just read his short story. However he is possessed aka infinite connection to the fade/having a piece of the fade inside him. Morrigan is not possessed.

So what? I think Morrigan could wipe the floor with most of them.

 

I also think that Wynne is stronger than Anders due to having a much higher class spirit within her.