American and English Accent?
#26
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 02:47
I'm not happy that I can't be Orlesian.
I must have missed the memo that everything having to do with France is bad and wrong (badong) that everyone else got.
- cindercatz, BioWareM0d13 et SoSolaris aiment ceci
#27
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 02:51
I'm happy about having two options for voices.
I'm not happy that I can't be Orlesian.
I must have missed the memo that everything having to do with France is bad and wrong (badong) that everyone else got.
Pft, Hide your obviously foreign accents people. All good guys speak either M-W American or RP English. Or Scottish English if they are hot.
*gone to oppress the elves and peasants, will be back soon
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#28
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 03:33
In one respect the player character not being Orlesian (probably) allows the devs to go the stranger in a strange land route. Having the player character be an outsider allows them reveal things in the lore about the place without the player character seeming strangely out of touch with his or her own culture and country.
On that note, should a game ever be set in the Anderfels or Antiva or Rivain or some other region of Thedas not named Orlais, I hope there will be an option to play as a player character that isn't from Ferelden. Assuming the multiple accent thing carries over into the next title, have one of those accents be Orlesian, or Nevarran, or whatever.
#29
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 03:38
Familiarity and marketability.
#30
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 03:51
Well the game starts off in Ferelden right? So if he is from anywhere, it's there.
#31
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 03:55
On topic of the voice and accents. I heard there will be only 2 voices (each for male and female) for all classes? Is it true? I understand the cost for multiple version of voice overs. But if the Qunari or Dwarven inquisitor sound like a human, that's alittle immersion breaking. I think the game would be quite expansive since everyone's accent would need to sound similar when in Orlais for example.
#32
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 03:55
There are a couple of reasons within the game to explain why he would sound British, maybe The inquisitor is not from Orlais, maybe he is but was raise somewhere else or he can speak with both accents, also there are reasons outside of the game and David Gaider talks a bit in here : http://dgaider.tumbl...cents-in-dragon
#33
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 05:05
The real issue then is the vagueness of the accents.
An English accent kind of narrows it down from the entire UK, but it's kind of confusing people since Northern England sounds a lot different from Southern England and can be difficult to interpret exactly what they're saying.
The same applies to American if American means United States. If that does not apply to American as in USA, I don't even know what they're trying to claim accent-wise.
Still, the vagueness of the accents brought on by the generalization of entire countries is kind of jarring to say the least. This statement can be interpreted too many ways in terms of what these accents really are.
#34
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 06:32
A French accent would have been cool, loved the french accent on the female boss in saints row 4
#35
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 06:33
A French accent would have been cool, loved the french accent on the female boss in saints row 4
But a Bioware French accent ?
#36
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 06:43
There are a couple of reasons within the game to explain why he would sound British, maybe The inquisitor is not from Orlais, maybe he is but was raise somewhere else or he can speak with both accents, also there are reasons outside of the game and David Gaider talks a bit in here : http://dgaider.tumbl...cents-in-dragon
What I hope is that the human Inquisitor is Orlesian anyway, just from an area along the Fereldan border. It's not nearly as cool as the accent would be
, but we could still be more Orlesian in background. That would help, but the lack of that specific accent choice would still be disappointing. There's 95% good news with this game though, including having voice options at all. That part alone is very good news.
#37
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 07:01
The real issue then is the vagueness of the accents.
An English accent kind of narrows it down from the entire UK, but it's kind of confusing people since Northern England sounds a lot different from Southern England and can be difficult to interpret exactly what they're saying.
The same applies to American if American means United States. If that does not apply to American as in USA, I don't even know what they're trying to claim accent-wise.
Still, the vagueness of the accents brought on by the generalization of entire countries is kind of jarring to say the least. This statement can be interpreted too many ways in terms of what these accents really are.
The accent can change at an even more minute level down to parts of the city where a person grew up too. In my city (Toronto) there are at least 3 distinct native English accents (that only people from Toronto can notice most of the time, with my accent I drop the first O and second T in "Trono" for example), not including the tangle of broken English accents that non-native speakers speak in.
All i hope for in the game is that the option doesn't actually say "American or British". I want them tied to DA in some way.
I have no particular care to listen to an Orlesian accent for 40+ hours (at least not how it has been portrayed in past games), that accent is atrocious.
#38
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 07:30
The real issue then is the vagueness of the accents.
An English accent kind of narrows it down from the entire UK, but it's kind of confusing people since Northern England sounds a lot different from Southern England and can be difficult to interpret exactly what they're saying.
The same applies to American if American means United States. If that does not apply to American as in USA, I don't even know what they're trying to claim accent-wise.
Still, the vagueness of the accents brought on by the generalization of entire countries is kind of jarring to say the least. This statement can be interpreted too many ways in terms of what these accents really are.
What you would be referring to are regional dialects, something which generally exists within any nation. In Spain you got Basque & Catalunian, in England you got tons of dialects like Yorkshire, Upperclass(posh), Working class, Sussex, Manchester, Northern & Southern etc. We even have a tons of them here in a small country like ours. It exists pretty much everywhere, but we've got a particular 'main' dialect, which is basically spoken in all regions named Rigsdansk. In retrospect, it doesn't matter much to a foreigner since it would be lost on deaf ears in the long. I don't think foreigners would be able to easily distinquish Canadians from Americans, or Scotsmen from the Irish. When they say an "English" accent & "American" accent we'll assume they are talking about Upperclass/posh or London, and the American one would either be General American or Standard American English.
#39
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 07:37
What you would be referring to are regional dialects, something which generally exists within any nation. In Spain you got Basque & Catalunian, in England you got tons of dialects like Yorkshire, Upperclass(posh), Working class, Sussex, Manchester, Northern & Southern etc. We even have a tons of them here in a small country like ours. It exists pretty much everywhere, but we've got a particular 'main' dialect, which is basically spoken in all regions named Rigsdansk. In retrospect, it doesn't matter much to a foreigner since it would be lost on deaf ears in the long. I don't think foreigners would be able to easily distinquish Canadians from Americans, or Scotsmen from the Irish. When they say an "English" accent & "American" accent we'll assume they are talking about Upperclass/posh or London, and the American one would either be General American or Standard American English.
Have never had any problems distinguishing accents, really. I don't think that people refer to certain varieties of English as British or American because they can't hear the difference when listening to all the regional variants that are still around, it's because it's faster this way, even if British is in fact RP, and American - MW.
#40
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 07:48
Have never had any problems distinguishing accents, really. I don't think that people refer to certain varieties of English as British or American because they can't hear the difference when listening to all the regional variants that are still around, it's because it's faster this way, even if British is in fact RP, and American - MW.
Gonna have to disagree here. I've seen plenty of occurences where people couldn't differ a Scottish accent from an Irish or a Dane from a Swede. It's not really all that odd either, but I think it's useless to discuss it. I personally don't have any problems given that I use the English language every single day of my life, occasionally at work too. Since I was a child I'd mimic the accents of foreign English speakers, and thus have lost my own, taking on an Standard American & London accent occasionally -- It comes natural that way, but it's also easier for people that generally speak and utilizes the language a lot. To a foreigner I'd doubt that the dialects of England would sink through beyond simply labeling them all as English accents.
#41
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 08:20
I myself am hoping that one day a fantasy rpg will let me have a nice deep southern drawl.
#42
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 08:21
I think adding 2 voices for the inquisitor was a waste of resources, i would have rather seen a single voice (american maybe? it´s the easiest to sell) for the protagonist.
I just know that when i find something in the game slightly incomplete, i will think: "if only bioware had not wasted resources". I already consider the male/female voice to be a resource drain, but it is a fair trade for the option of playing two genders. However a new voice just for the sake of a slightly different english pronounciation? That is just crazy. When i play as male american inquisitor, then there will be other 3 voices (male british and 2 female voices) that are not being used.
I hope this resource drain did not affect much the quality of the game.
#43
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 08:22
I think adding 2 voices for the inquisitor was a waste of resources, i would have rather seen a single voice (american maybe? it´s the easiest to sell) for the protagonist.
I just know that when i find something in the game slightly incomplete, i will think: "if only bioware had not wasted resources". I already consider the male/female voice to be a resource drain, but it is a fair trade for the option of playing two genders. However a new voice just for the sake of a slightly different english pronounciation? That is just crazy. When i play as male american inquisitor, then there will be other 3 voices (male british and 2 female voices) that are not being used.
I hope this resource drain did not affect much the quality of the game.
A new voice is not a drain on developer resources. It's a cost (money-wise), but it's not even a substantial cost in that regard probably (VAs don't earn obscene sums or anything).
#44
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 08:25
There are many english accounts, not just a north and south. It would have been amusing to have a west country or yorkshire Inq
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#45
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 08:41
There are many english accounts, not just a north and south. It would have been amusing to have a west country or yorkshire Inq
A Devon (or Cornish) Inquistor would have been hilarious - reminds me somewhat of how different Darth Vader would have sounded oif they'd used David Prowse's broad West Country accent... and that's before you start thinking about a Yorkshire Inquisitor.
Still, I hope to be able to wind the Orlesians up massively with my Fereldan (English) Inquisitor. Nothing quite like winding the French up!
#46
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 08:43
But a Bioware French accent ?
TEEEEGAAAAN
#47
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 08:48
#48
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 08:54
I like the english accent dude voice from the trailer. I'll probably just choose that voice to start with, but I'm glad we get the choice ![]()
#49
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 09:03
Have never had any problems distinguishing accents, really. I don't think that people refer to certain varieties of English as British or American because they can't hear the difference when listening to all the regional variants that are still around, it's because it's faster this way, even if British is in fact RP, and American - MW.
A less than a hundred miles to where I live is Harkers Island, the people there all sound like pirates, like Hollywood "argh me matey!" pirates.
They sound closer to archaic British or Cornish people than anyone else in the South, you wouldn't think they were Americans, but people who sound like that live throughout the NC coast.
There's also people from Alaska and Wisconsin, they sound more Canadian than American, and people from Massachusetts sound ridiculous; no offence to any people from Massachusetts I'm sure they think everyone else sound funny instead.
There's also city accents vs country accents, like people from my home city sound nothing like people from a few dozen miles out of town.
Even in a single state there are tons of regional accents that sound nothing alike, let alone an entire country.
- cindercatz aime ceci
#50
Posté 08 juin 2014 - 09:25
A less than a hundred miles to where I live is Harkers Island, the people there all sound like pirates, like Hollywood pirates "arg me matey!".
They sound closer to British or Cornish than anyone else in the South, you wouldn't think they were Americans.
There's also people from Alaska and Wisconsin, they sound more Canadian than American, and people from Massachusetts sound ridiculous; no offence to any people from Massachusetts.
There's also city accents vs country accents, like people from my home city sound nothing like people from a few dozen miles out of town.
Also people from Northern England sometimes sound more Scottish than English from what I've heard of them.
Oh, god. Why do you hate MA so much, buddy ![]()
Anyways, I am quite aware of the regional differences – obviously not all of them, not my speciality (For fun and lolzes try to use the regional versions of English for Google Voice Search, I don’t know what databases they’ve used to train it, but some of the results are quite hilarious).
The point was that people hear the difference but can't quite place it: they have these stereotypical versions of English stuck in their heads they associate with the UK and the States (RP and Mid-West based American standard respectively) so they just call it British and American, cause the modern popular culture taught them that this is the way Americans/British people speak. That’s the same reason most of the English speakers don’t recognise foreign accents unless they are stereotypical to the highest degree: Humans as a species tend to slack in finer categorisations.





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