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[Sugarjaye]

I just want some form of long hair, even if it's just hinted and i'll be happy.

[In Exile]

The ME hairstyles for diana, brooks, femshep, and miranda are a perfect example of pretty hair even if it is short

 

You count Miranda as having short hair?

[Swagger7]

Ah! Here we go.

 

"A Framework for Rendering Complex Scattering Effects on Hair", Yang, Et al.

 

The technique TressFX is apparently based on.

A professional paper on hair rendering.  I'll have to give that a read.  Nice find.

[Cigne]

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That the military (and gymnastics) have strict regulations on hair has no bearing on this. Their reasoning is superficial and has nothing to do with real practicality, especially in the field

 

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Could you elaborate on this? Specifically the part I bolded.

 

I've no personal experience with fighting with, or against, someone with really long hair.  But my gut feeling is that it could be a liability in a life or death encounter. Hair pulling is illegal in MMA because of the risk of serious injury.

 

Still, DA isn't a combat simulator; if long hair can be done without too great a hit in performance, then I'd like to have it as an option.

[Mecha Elf]

You count Miranda as having short hair?

Hmm yes, and since I have hair up to my shoulders (well an inch longer) I consider it short. Or perhaps medium length I suppose short would apply to hairstyles such as leilianas.

[theflyingzamboni]

Long hair for DA neither male or female can have real long hair in DA.And we past the point asking nicely.

How cool it would be if my Inquisitor could look like this.

 

Liked for Alucard/Vlad Tepes shot. So badass. I'd be down with my Inquisitor looking like that.

 

Triss eyes clipping and Yenn's eye moving are really realistic. I sense that is CGI.

 

It's actually not. The only part that is is that little clip of the raven flying out of the guy's head at the very end, which is a teaser for the CGI trailer that they will be releasing at E3. Everything else is gameplay. I mean, Witcher 2 was absolutely gorgeous, and Witcher 3 is built on a new iteration of that engine.


On the topic as a whole, I don't have an issue with characters having long hair in fantasy. I think it looks more epic personally, on men and women. My own flowing locks might bias me though. I don't like clipping though, but I can deal with it if it's not too extreme. What I do roll my eyes at are the styles people make for fan hair mods, especially for the women. Whenever I see someone playing a character with custom hair, they're always so perfectly coiffed. The styles are absolutely perfect, like you'd wear to a black dress and tie event, and would take someone an hour to style in real life. Not to be rude (well, maybe a little ) but it's a really dumb look on someone who's out fighting and adventuring. Also, those intense makeup jobs. Why do people want their adventurers looking like they're more ready to take on high society than a high dragon?

[KC_Prototype]

I play as male(Black characters) so this isn't the problem for me, it's the style. But I do agree that their needs to be longer hair especially looking at the female companions. All the female companions have short hair and I don't understand it. Vivienne has almost no hair. And why couldn't Sera have the long, beautiful golden hair like she did in the concept art? 

[Mecha Elf]

I play as male(Black characters) so this isn't the problem for me, it's the style. But I do agree that their needs to be longer hair especially looking at the female companions. All the female companions have short hair and I don't understand it. Vivienne has almost no hair. And why couldn't Sera have the long, beautiful golden hair like she did in the concept art?

I was confused when I saw that Vivienne didnt have hair considering shes a fasionista and from orlais

[In Exile]

I was confused when I saw that Vivienne didnt have hair considering shes a fasionista and from orlais

Orlais is big on wigs. Wearing a wig is easier if you shave your head. 

[theflyingzamboni]

I play as male(Black characters) so this isn't the problem for me, it's the style. But I do agree that their needs to be longer hair especially looking at the female companions. All the female companions have short hair and I don't understand it. Vivienne has almost no hair. And why couldn't Sera have the long, beautiful golden hair like she did in the concept art? 

 

 

I was confused when I saw that Vivienne didnt have hair considering shes a fasionista and from orlais

 

I can't believe I'm touching this but let me unpackage these statements with questions: Why do the women specifically need long hair? Why not short, functional cuts that stay out of the way? Why is that somehow different than all the male companions having short hair? What's wrong with Sera's hair if it fits her character? I get the feeling that DIY haircuts are more in line with that from what little we can extrapolate of her personailty so far. Why should her hair serve a limited ideal of beauty instead of helping define a specific character?

To address the second quote: Beyond the apparent in-universe reason of wig-wearing, why can't women with shaved heads be the fashion? Long hair doesn't have to be 'fashionable' for women in a particular civilization, any more than short hair for men. Maybe for Orlesians, shaved heads for women is the fashion.

Cultural preconceptions. They should be unwrapped, examined, recognized as usually arbitrary, and do not need to be projected into fantasy worlds where you can literally make things be anything you can imagine. Also, something doesn't have to look attractive to look good and be well-designed.

 

Nothing wrong with finding some things more attractive than others, but wanting all or at least many things to fit those traits to be fully accepted as good is a bit... problematic.

(Personally, I like how Sera looks, and find it much more interesting than long-haired gorgeous elf woman #45,364. She's got... character. (A hurr hurr hurr) But you know, different strokes. And her hair actually tells me something about the kind of character she is, instead of telling me more about her designers' ideas of beauty. )

[Faerlyte]

Could you elaborate on this? Specifically the part I bolded.

 

I've no personal experience with fighting with, or against, someone with really long hair.  But my gut feeling is that it could be a liability in a life or death encounter. Hair pulling is illegal in MMA because of the risk of serious injury.

 

Still, DA isn't a combat simulator; if long hair can be done without too great a hit in performance, then I'd like to have it as an option.

 

Native Americans fought all the time and they had long hair. Given that women flat out can't wear their hair long in the military, there is no data to suggest that it is a liability in battle, because no one has been in the position to prove it one way or the other. There is no documentation that I'm aware of that supports the supposition that it is that much of a liability. Therefore, I think the military's hair requirements are more to do with the appearance of an 'army of one' rather than practical application. Especially the facial hair rules. That, to me, is a superficial requirement based on someone's deluded notion of what constitutes professionalism, and has nothing to do with warfare. 

 

Most people aren't fighting sans most of their clothing as they would in MMA. I'll tuck my hair under my clothes if I want to avoid catching it on something. If one were a warrior and they wore a helm, the combination of tucking one's hair underneath and wearing a helm over that would make it extremely difficult to access. 

[Mecha Elf]

Ive never stated that women with shaved heads could not be the fashion and i certainly dont think that way either. I said what I said because when I usually think of a fashionista I think of a women or man that would like to have hair that they could style and what not. There are many women who are into fashion with very little to no hair and I have no problems with that. And as for the orlais part I just said that because of what I knew about the bourgeoisie being fancy shmancy in history.

[ladyoflate]

My hair reaches my lower back braided so it's pretty long. I wouldn't think that animating a single braid is that difficult? I'd also like to point out, for people interested in realism and such, that wearing one's hair in a tight bun when they've got enough to reach their butt, is not practical at all. A braid is a lot more comfortable on the noggin. All that weight piled on top of your head and pulling on your scalp for an extended period of time is not a comfortable experience. 

 

Well, I've got hair a bit longer than that and it's pretty thick, and buns don't bother me. Everyone's scalp is different.

[ladyoflate]

Orlais is big on wigs. Wearing a wig is easier if you shave your head. 

 

Plus it's not like she doesn't have the bone structure for it.

[cindercatz]

Personally, Viv reminds me of a few runway models I've seen, and lots of people wear that style, but given her hats, silhoette, and description, I was surprised by her hair/head for the same reasons Mecha Elf stated. That doesn't mean I think they should change her design or anything. I think she works. She's interesting. And I love Sera, but I also loved her original braided look. I do wish we had that in the game. Because wow.

[Babizokahh]

Cass looks great with short hair, it suits her, and Viv looks great with her hair (or none, in this case) because of her majestic hat, but Sera, i really dislike her hair cut, is bowl-cut all over again. I know people have different tastes, and long hair is difficult to make, specially with the clipping issues, but one or two longer hairstyles would not be horrible to manage, compared to all the other short hair options we'll certainly get. About clipping, there are ways to solve this, making the head bald while wearing full helmets, or in games like TERA online, if wearing a big collar, the hair would turn into a simple bun. Sure is a bit of work, but is not impossible. I love bioware games, but i'm never quite happy with how my characters look because of the lack of better hairstyles. If i'm correct, DA2 had a few more shoulder-length hairstyles than DAO, which in theory was nice, but in my opinion they were really bad and it had nothing to do with clipping issues, the haircut models were just awful. If shoulder-length and short hair is all we'll ever get, at least give us some cool different haircuts instead of just different types of bald, bowl-cuts and super short hair.

[KC_Prototype]

I can't believe I'm touching this but let me unpackage these statements with questions: Why do the women specifically need long hair? Why not short, functional cuts that stay out of the way? Why is that somehow different than all the male companions having short hair? What's wrong with Sera's hair if it fits her character? I get the feeling that DIY haircuts are more in line with that from what little we can extrapolate of her personailty so far. Why should her hair serve a limited ideal of beauty instead of helping define a specific character?

To address the second quote: Beyond the apparent in-universe reason of wig-wearing, why can't women with shaved heads be the fashion? Long hair doesn't have to be 'fashionable' for women in a particular civilization, any more than short hair for men. Maybe for Orlesians, shaved heads for women is the fashion.

Cultural preconceptions. They should be unwrapped, examined, recognized as usually arbitrary, and do not need to be projected into fantasy worlds where you can literally make things be anything you can imagine. Also, something doesn't have to look attractive to look good and be well-designed.

 

Nothing wrong with finding some things more attractive than others, but wanting all or at least many things to fit those traits to be fully accepted as good is a bit... problematic.

(Personally, I like how Sera looks, and find it much more interesting than long-haired gorgeous elf woman #45,364. She's got... character. (A hurr hurr hurr) But you know, different strokes. And her hair actually tells me something about the kind of character she is, instead of telling me more about her designers' ideas of beauty. )

But she looked good with long hair in the concept art. Also, her face looks good but they choose an ugly hairstyle for her, that's what's wrong.

[KC_Prototype]

Cass looks great with short hair, it suits her, and Viv looks great with her hair (or none, in this case) because of her majestic hat, but Sera, i really dislike her hair cut, is bowl-cut all over again. I know people have different tastes, and long hair is difficult to make, specially with the clipping issues, but one or two longer hairstyles would not be horrible to manage, compared to all the other short hair options we'll certainly get. About clipping, there are ways to solve this, making the head bald while wearing full helmets, or in games like TERA online, if wearing a big collar, the hair would turn into a simple bun. Sure is a bit of work, but is not impossible. I love bioware games, but i'm never quite happy with how my characters look because of the lack of better hairstyles. If i'm correct, DA2 had a few more shoulder-length hairstyles than DAO, which in theory was nice, but in my opinion they were really bad and it had nothing to do with clipping issues, the haircut models were just awful. If shoulder-length and short hair is all we'll ever get, at least give us some cool different haircuts instead of just different types of bald, bowl-cuts and super short hair.

I like Cass's hair because it does suit her, I wish Viv had some more hair but her hat is cool but i agree, Sera's hair looks horrible. Are they trying to make her look like a boy?

[Quyk Sylvyr]

I like Cass's hair because it does suit her, I wish Viv had some more hair but her hat is cool but i agree, Sera's hair looks horrible. Are they trying to make her look like a boy?

 

Some might consider it a bit of a trope, but I believe it was representative of a "I don't give a rat's ass" attitude. According to Gaider, "I love how her hair looks like she cuts it with a blunt knife. The writers call it “Bad Decision Hair”, and we adore it. And her." - http://dgaider.tumbl...-i-love-how-her

 

Honestly?  I don't mind the hairstyles that the companions have as I think they may fit those companions, but I really really hope some broader options are available to the Inquisitor.

[Spectre Impersonator]

Dragon Age main characters are never allowed to have long hair, it's in the rules.

[Babizokahh]

Dragon Age main characters are never allowed to have long hair, it's in the rules.

They aren't allowed to have long hair in Mass Effect either. I think somewhere in Bioware there is a terms and conditions note saying " We shall not make long hair for the player character in any circumstance. Bowl-Cuts rule! "

[Spectre Impersonator]

They aren't allowed to have long hair in Mass Effect either. I think somewhere in Bioware there is a terms and conditions note saying " We shall not make long hair for the player character in any circumstance. Bowl-Cuts rule! "

Poor Sera.   She looks worse than Mark Hamill in the first Star Wars.

[hobbit of the shire]

Want long hair.  But no poofy straight-out-of-the-salon hair.  It would be glorious to have long, straight-ish Eowyn or Arwen hair.  Practicality?  Nope.  I will definitely not use helmets in the game, so realism is out the window anyway.  I would love to see more dark ages/medieval/ren styles because I found lots of the stock hair in the previous games to be too modern.  I would prefer not to have to turn to mods.  It'd also be pretty to neat to have a nice set of long hairstyles for men, too.  Again, imagining LOTR.  And while we're at it, more colour variations too.

 

Police officers, military, etc. may put hair in tight buns, but if you're wearing a metal helmet, the helmet ain't gonna sit right on the head.  That Inquisitor helmet wouldn't sit right on nothing but a short head of hair..... which is why bleh to helmets! :-P

[ladyoflate]

Well, a crown braid is pretty good at an even distribution of hair over the scalp. If they weren't damned difficult to master, I'd say they'd be the go-to for cosplayers with wigs.

 

But the shape of the hair in that syle is both practical and beautiful, which is why i want it so bad

[Lieutenant Kurin]

I remember when the concept of Sera had a mullet. And I think that's waaaay better "bad decision hair" than her bowl cut. I also fell in love with it .

 

I'm pro long hair, especially for the PC. If Ashley is a space marine and can have long hair that is left untied all the time, than I'm pretty sure my femQuisitor should be able to do the same.

 

Also, long hair="conventional beauty", case in point (again), the mullet.

 

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