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[Aries_cz]

That's you man. When I spend hours crafting and playing a character I don't want it all thrown out the window just for the novelty of having them in game. It's the same reason I never want to see Shepard again in the Mass Effect series. If the Warden isn't my warden then why should I care about seeing them at all?

 

I guess it comes down to how you get attached to that character. I could not get that much attached to my Warden (I had that problem with any "mute" characters ever since I played the first Mass Effect). He had a personality, sure, but I think that personality was more defined by his decisions, because those were the main things you could control in the game, instead of some personally invented RP back story and personality that may not even be what the character acted like in the game (because of limitations of the game itself).

As I said, I think that choices (major ones and minor ones, like companion stuff, participation in side missions, etc) that character made could create a pretty decent representation of personality along the scales of "Paragon/Renegade". Personal quirks like snarking are much more prone to changing with age and experience than core beliefs formed by big decisions (there are many real world studies on how personality develops and changes), and thus could be easily "pardoned" for (not) existing.

However, I guess we will have to wait and see what options will the Keep bring in regards of our former heroes.

[SilkieBantam]

Not really. I just don't see how Bioware can do it in a satisfactory way. 

 

Also I'm kind of done with my Warden and Hawke. I enjoyed the time we've had together but it's time to say bye-bye.

 

They've have their adventures, I'd rather see someone new.  

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

No.

 

Yes. 

 

No. 

 

Preferably no.

[Doctoglethorpe]

Wouldn't care about Hawke.  No Warden though.  Wanna keep my head canon for him instead of being told by Bioware what he's up to.  

[NoForgiveness]

Only if its done absolutely right. meaning the player is allowed to set appearance and personality(easier for hawke). but given that its done well enough, I wouldn't be against it. I do think it'd be freakin awesome if at some point there was a calling dlc, in which the HoF or orlesian warden commander goes on his/her calling. Possibly with Alistair depending on his status. 

[ViaTKO]

I think that'd be a little hard to do just because of the sheer amount of different scenarios they'd have to account for.  And I wouldn't be satisfied with just a cameo appearance alone.  It would leave me underwhelmed.

[Deebo305]

No because the demands of the Qun are clear

[Cribbian]

No because I don't think it can be done in a satisfatory way. Not without spending more resources than it's worth anyway.

[Nonoru]

Unless the game is able to convert DAO & DA2 protags data and through some miracles use it to generate on the new engine the faces of said characters in a way that I'll be able to recognize them as my Warden and my Champion of Kirkwall, I would rather not. Unless they are wearing helmets and in that case that will be lame, so, also nope. I don't mind interaction through another character (emissary for example) But really, I will be satisfied even with only a mention of them. 

[AlexJK]

Should the Warden and Hawke make an appearance in an upcoming Dragon Age game?

If they have a part to play as NPCs in the Dragon Age saga, sure. I don't see them being included unless there's major story value to be had though (and just tying up the loose end of "where did they go" doesn't count - that can be done without including them at all). I can't imagine how it would work without all the silly discussions about faces and character creators that are going round the Keep thread though; possibly masked? Or - outside chance - they'll appear in some kind of changed state, retaining basic sex and race choices but otherwise unrecognisable (eg. the Warden appears severely taint-corrupted, or Hawke as an abomination or similar).
 

I still think these characters have more stories to tell, and would love a sequel to Origins or Dragon Age 2 where we can continue their story.

I'd rather we didn't have that. I'd like to see new characters and new areas explored, not old characters from rapidly-aging games brought back for no reason other than a little nostalgia for those people who can't let go of the old ones!

[Genshie]

As soon as they mentioned that "the champion disappeared just like the hero/Warden did" in DA2 is when the can of worms was opened. Bioware could have easily avoided this by not even dropping the "disappeared" mentioning. Pretty much as long as they simply tell me why and what happened to them I would be satisfied even without an appearance. Since the personality is pretty much set in stone for Hawke with the wheel system in DA2 his/her appearance wouldn't be that big of a deal for me. My only concern is the representation of the Warden/Warden Commander. You people who sacrificed your Wardens are lucky in my opinion since your head cannon is very well protected via means of death.

[Aaleel]

No.  I don't think it will be done in any good way.  I think they'll be placed into the game just for the sake of putting them in the game.  You can't recreate their look, so what are they just going to walk out in helmets, what voice would you give the Warden.  I just don't see any way it can be done well bringing out generic looking characters and trying to wrap up their stories while telling the story of someone else.

[JoltDealer]

As I said in other threads, involving Hawke or the Warden in Dragon Age Inquisition is dangerous.  Each and every player/fan has his or her own story for their character(s) after the end of his/her game, or "headcanon" as it commonly referred to.  By making an appearance, fans may be upset because it did too little to acknowledge their headcanon or it did too much to contradict it.  And then there is the matter of cheapening the value of the Inquisitor and his/her story.  Having the Warden and/or Hawke appear, you risk taking focus away from the Inquisitor all for the sake of some unnecessary fanservice.

 

In other words, no, the Warden and Hawke should not make an appearance in Dragon Age Inquisition or any future game for that matter.  It's fine to mention and refer to them, but no more than that.

[Miltialdes]

I am not agree with the final conclusion  of Jokedealer due to the continuity of the story of Teldas. If the event ( Demon invasion) was only a local threat, I will be ok with non intervention of the both previous heroes. But it is not the case, it is a entire world in danger.

 

 

More the cliffhanger of DA2 mentioned their disappearances are not a hazard! Why to close a game if you don't answer at the question in the sequel!

Morigan is there and her lover is missing then for my scenario he followed the wicht in passing trough the eluvian Mirror?

I repeat a world in danger

 

It is like Galactus will come on Earth and only Spiderman is on to fight him. Of course, it is time to an assemblage of heroes!

 

 

 

If people won't their coming, free to them  in dragon keep to choose their death  or other choose to not have their appearance but for me, THEY HAVE TO APPEAR as npc and possibly in discovered the reason of the disapearance and in my final dream  an assemblage of all allied of the both charachters and the new one in a final clash vs the big bad guy.

[cindercatz]

>_< I wrote a long, full post and it signed me out. Shoot me.

 

Ok, bulletpoints:

 

*Yes, I want to see them, and permanently redesign them, visual and voice.

*Choices should be reflected, personality flavor, beliefs, and plot. This is doable and extraordinary.

*Preserving everybody's headcanon is impossible and pointless. Mine says it'd be flat out impossible to avoid many of them if you tried.

*Headcanon is basically fanfic, so it would still be there in the same place.

*These aren't Revan and the Exile, which Lucas owned and defined by fanpole

*I hate the disappearing hero trope, so the original endings were worse in the first place imo

*No, I don't want them to be protags again in future games. I want them to exist as important NPCs I co-designed

[ManOfSteel]

If they handle it well and in a manner that serves the story, of course. They're not my characters, so BioWare should frankly have no issue with using them. I personally don't believe that headcanon should enter the equation at all. As soon as the credits role on The Warden and Hawke, the developers should have free rein on how they handle those characters.

[MrMrPendragon]

If they handle it well and in a manner that serves the story, of course. They're not my characters, so BioWare should frankly have no issue with using them. I personally don't believe that headcanon should enter the equation at all. As soon as the credits role on The Warden and Hawke, the developers should have free rein on how they handle those characters.

Exactly. They are not our characters. This isn't Shepard. Yes some of their personality is reflected in the choices, but the "stoic badass / ladies man / kind..." Is just on the player's head. We can't expect Bioware to have them show up in the way we imagine them. If people don't want anything less than that, then we might as well say goodbye to them because they won't show up, ever.

[LostInReverie19]

Only if they are able to bring closure to their stories. They are no longer the protagonists. However, it would be nice to see them make a cameo. 

[Raikas]

I don't want an appearance by either of them since I don't think there's a way to do it without annoying some segment of the fanbase, but I wouldn't mind hearing some vague reference to them.  Some random comment about whatever an imported Warden was doing in his/her epilogue, or a passing statement about Hawke running Kirkwall (or running from templars, or whatever) before disappearing.