yes, also, not a fan of force player character death. Thus, like I am now doing for ALL games I purchase I will wait until I get full spoilers before buying the game IF I like what I hear prior to its release (unless Bioware is kind enough to elucidate like they did with ME2)
I'm a little bit speechless here.
You watch full spoilers for every game you play?
Takes the fun out of playing the game, doesn't it?
I hope with "moving forward" Casey Hudson really means "lets forget about this crappy Mass Effect trilogy we have now, we're going to reboot the series and make a new, better ME trilogy".
I'm not going to play any Mass Effect games when ME2 and ME3 are still canon. If they retcon or reboot the entire series I might be interested in trying another Mass Effect game again.
I hope "moving forward" also means leaving behind players like you that think the trilogy is "crappy". I hear there are some nice Halo forums you can go troll.
It's been awhile since I've last written on these forums. Allow me to share some thoughts.
First, I fully understand BioWare is keeping info minimal on Mass Effect "4". They want to keep primary focus on DA Inquisition, their big launch this year. Totally understandable.
From what we've seen, it's hard to draw any conclusions, other than the assumption made on this thread. It seems likely to be a "sequel", in the sense that the story will take place after the events of the Reaper War.
We can't guess at this point if it takes place a few years, a few decades, or even centuries after the original trilogy. We can however speculate that the game will make an approach to the ME Universe that minimizes the focus from those events, and of course, the different implications derived from the endings of ME3.
That is not a bad thing. We've been through all that, over and over, and I for one don't want to spend another day thinking about destroy vs control vs synthesis. In that regard, I'm with Casey Hudson. It's time to "move forward".
The only problem I have is... and I'm speculating here, but still...
Will this be in fact a "sequel", in the sense that it is somehow contextually integrated with the narrative of the previous trilogy, or will Mass Effect "4" be so unrelated to the original trilogy that it is in fact a "spin-off", rather than a sequel.
If that would be the case, than that means we are likely not going to see any of the previous characters, specially those belonging to races with a long life span like the Asari or the Krogan. Also, the prospect of having a setting in a different part of the universe, could mean we will not revisit any of the previous locations, like the Citadel, or Omega, or Illium. This would mean we would not have the chance to see how these places evolved from the events of the war.
If this should be the case - if ME "4" turns out to be an unrelated spin-off to the previous ME trilogy - it's likely that a lot of people will make an accusation that BioWare is running away from the consequences of the very circumstances they've created with ME3.
So, at this point, this is what I'm most curious about. The "context" of ME "4". How does the story fit in the ME Universe. How does it relate to the past, if it is indeed going to be something we can consider a "sequel".
Thoughts?
depends on the gameI'm a little bit speechless here.
You watch full spoilers for every game you play?
depends on the game
if the game requires me to get emotionally invested? Yeeep.
my pre requisites are 1: NG+ if there is character progression and 2: a satisfying (to me) ending. Thus yes. While trying to minimize the spoilers in general I will spoil the ending to make sure it suits my tastes and conveys to multiple playthroughs otherwise I am not wasting the $$$
This completely defeats the point of playing these kind of games for me.
Judging by what they've been saying, (new protagonist, new area of space, no more Reaper plot), I'd say "spinoff" is more likely by the information we have now.It's been awhile since I've last written on these forums. Allow me to share some thoughts.
First, I fully understand BioWare is keeping info minimal on Mass Effect "4". They want to keep primary focus on DA Inquisition, their big launch this year. Totally understandable.
From what we've seen, it's hard to draw any conclusions, other than the assumption made on this thread. It seems likely to be a "sequel", in the sense that the story will take place after the events of the Reaper War.
We can't guess at this point if it takes place a few years, a few decades, or even centuries after the original trilogy. We can however speculate that the game will make an approach to the ME Universe that minimizes the focus from those events, and of course, the different implications derived from the endings of ME3.
That is not a bad thing. We've been through all that, over and over, and I for one don't want to spend another day thinking about destroy vs control vs synthesis. In that regard, I'm with Casey Hudson. It's time to "move forward".
The only problem I have is... and I'm speculating here, but still...
Will this be in fact a "sequel", in the sense that it is somehow contextually integrated with the narrative of the previous trilogy, or will Mass Effect "4" be so unrelated to the original trilogy that it is in fact a "spin-off", rather than a sequel.
If that would be the case, than that means we are likely not going to see any of the previous characters, specially those belonging to races with a long life span like the Asari or the Krogan. Also, the prospect of having a setting in a different part of the universe, could mean we will not revisit any of the previous locations, like the Citadel, or Omega, or Illium. This would mean we would not have the chance to see how these places evolved from the events of the war.
If this should be the case - if ME "4" turns out to be an unrelated spin-off to the previous ME trilogy - it's likely that a lot of people will make an accusation that BioWare is running away from the consequences of the very circumstances they've created with ME3.
So, at this point, this is what I'm most curious about. The "context" of ME "4". How does the story fit in the ME Universe. How does it relate to the past, if it is indeed going to be something we can consider a "sequel".
Thoughts?
not to me and some developers :gasp: are ok letting you know such things ahead of time so you do not waste money on a product you might not enjoy as opposed to the secrecy BS.This completely defeats the point of playing these kind of games for me.
Judging by what they've been saying, (new protagonist, new area of space, no more Reaper plot), I'd say "spinoff" is more likely by the information we have now.
I've been getting a sequel set in the distant future vibe from everything we've seen.
That should answer a few questions about the next game.
I don't think people realize that this image isn't necessarily of the protagonist we'll play as. Could be the villain or just some random N7. One thing for sure is that there's no way that armor is pre-ME1.
Me too, but I meant spinoff in the sense that aside from taking place in the ME universe there would be no connection to Shepard or previous characters.I've been getting a sequel set in the distant future vibe from everything we've seen.
Me too, but I meant spinoff in the sense that aside from taking place in the ME universe there would be no connection to Shepard or previous characters.
IMO that doesn't make it a spin off. Look at all the elder Scrolls games. Despite some subtle references, and the fact that in each game you're fulfilling some prophecy, the games aren't really connected. A spin off would be something like Halo ODST.
not to me and some developers :gasp: are ok letting you know such things ahead of time so you do not waste money on a product you might not enjoy as opposed to the secrecy BS.
I've never seen a developer admit that they made a game that really hooks you into your PC and crew, then screws you over with a nonsensical ending that they threw together at the last minute, and that it leaves your character dead and most of what you like at the bottom of a smoking crater.
Maybe I just haven't been paying attention.
IMO that doesn't make it a spin off. Look at all the elder Scrolls games. Despite some subtle references, and the fact that in each game you're fulfilling some prophecy, the games aren't really connected. A spin off would be something like Halo ODST.
At a minimum a Mass Effect game has to include the mass relays and the Citadel, as well as the races commonly found in Citadel space. Without those, it really is just a spin-off.
I've never seen a developer admit that they made a game that really hooks you into your PC and crew, then screws you over with a nonsensical ending that they threw together at the last minute, and that it leaves your character dead and most of what you like at the bottom of a smoking crater.
Maybe I just haven't been paying attention.
not my point...my point is that some developers will tell you stuff like "hey...no NG+ in this game" WAY ahead (Bioware still has to answer me about that in DAI)...or "yes, You have options in the endings, in some you live, in some you die" or "yes, there is a Karma requirement for that ending" as opposed to sayin nothing and lettin you find it all AFTER you wasted money.
just examples, I am talking about THAT not about telling you their ending was BS
also....someone just threatened me in pm about this.....is this now the norm on the BSN????
also....someone just threatened me in pm about this.....is this now the norm on the BSN????
I would post that in its entirety. Let us all laugh at the douche.
I would post that in its entirety. Let us all laugh at the douche.
I deleated it but the title was "those who diss the endings should have their brains blown away" or some such and the body of it was "go **** yourself"
I deleated it but the title was "those who diss the endings should have their brains blown away" or some such and the body of it was "go **** yourself"
And who sealed this love letter with a kiss?
I'm a little bit speechless here.
You watch full spoilers for every game you play?
It's more common than you think.
I've never seen a developer admit that they made a game that really hooks you into your PC and crew, then screws you over with a nonsensical ending that they threw together at the last minute, and that it leaves your character dead and most of what you like at the bottom of a smoking crater.
Maybe I just haven't been paying attention.
And who sealed this love letter with a kiss?
dunno but the name had quite a few numbers and he had 0 forum posts....I reported him
How is "most of what you like" at the bottom of a smoky crater? I get your connotation for Shepard, despite not agreeing with it, but I don't agree with the rest. Especially after the EC.
That might have been hyperbole.
That might have been hyperbole.
not really....if most of what you like is the interactions of your character (Shepard) with the rest of the crew and their possible future together then pretty much every ending puts you in the same goddamn position
not really....if most of what you like is the interactions of your character (Shepard) with the rest of the crew and their possible future together then pretty much every ending puts you in the same goddamn position
New character, new interactions, same races, same tech, no baggage. Sign me up.
that regards the new game in an of itself, I am talking about the reaper trilogy and, of course, my not really trusting Bioware at them moment
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