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[Divine Justinia V]

So once we get it, we can buy that DLC? Or will it come with my Xbox One pre-order?

[Examurai]

They even mentioned what the dlc will even contain?

And anyways, Sony and Ubisoft did it with Watchdogs, and it seems something is brewing with Assassin's Creed as well.
But of course it's Microsoft and EA, so naturally gamers will go in a fit against these two. The most loved companies in the gaming industry at the moment.

[wolfhowwl]

So once we get it, we can buy that DLC? Or will it come with my Xbox One pre-order?

You still have to pay for it. It will just be only available to purchase for Xbox users for however long Microsoft paid for like Skyrim's Dawnguard or Battlefield 4's Second Assault.

[Divine Justinia V]

You still have to pay for it. It will just be only available to purchase for Xbox users for however long Microsoft paid for like Skyrim's Dawnguard or Battlefield 4's Second Assault.

 

Ah, thank you!!

[Allan Schumacher]

Well, I appreciate the candor, and hopefully more info will come our way soon, I think I speak for all of us when I say please keep us informed, especially when it comes to the nature (story, costume pack, etc. not necessarily specifics) and length of exclusivity of this "premiere DLC" (premiere is an.... interesting word. I have no idea what to make of it).

 

Those two things are probably the most crucial pieces of info we need to make an informed decision. Anyway, thanks for what you've already revealed.

 

I don't know if I'd read too much into the "premiere" or not.  I know Ray Muzyka always referred to DLC as "PDLC" and when I asked what the P meant, he said "Premium" and it denoted "not free" stuff.

[cindercatz]

I'm bummed about it, because I'll probably burn through that fiirst playthrough right out of the gate release day, but as long as it's not companion dlc and I can still access it after endgame, I'm fine. I expect they'll release dlc for like two years, so I'll go back and add it to each PT when it's available. Timed dlc isn't a dealbreaker, not like a significant full exclusive. Unless it's an inordinately long time, anyway. Then it could be more of an issue.

[Silith]

People, just vote with your wallet. Don't buy the game, or don't buy the game at full price, don't buy DLC, don't buy DLC at full price. If you don't like the exclusivity DLC practice don't support it with your money.

 

I'm disappointed with this decision, and that's not because I don't own a XBox but because I think the practice in general is bad. Maybe it makes sense from a business point of view - but only if the backlash from the community isn't bad enough. Does EA/Bioware really need more bad press after the DA2/ME3 debacle (not trying to launch a discussion, I personally liked both)? Just look into any given comment section of any gaming site - commenters there are wary at best when it comes to DA:I and I don't think this will make gamers look more favorable to the franchise. Your game better be really good to win them back.

 

At this point, we don't really know anything about how this exclusivity deal will work out - so I think it's understandable that people fear the worst. You don't know if it will only be a 30 days delay, and you don't know if really only the first single-player DLC is affected or maybe more.

 

I'm still keeping my preorder because I really really want to play DA:I but I will keep an eye on this. I'm not going to buy DLC affected by this "deal", because seriously, EA/Bioware - not cool. If you want my money (and you should), that's not the way to get it you know?

 

This wont affect me one bit. Consoles get exclusive time dlc for game all the time, its only a problem and sketchy when it isnt on your console of choice.

 

And because it's done all the time, it's not a problem.... why again? It's bad practice to the detriment of all gamers who are the ones paying for it. It makes no sense to me why you would actively try and alienate a big part of your customers *shrugs*

 

ETA: Oh because it seems appropriate: Thank you Allan for engaging in the discussion, can't be easy.

[dragonwanderer]

It only strengthen my intention not to buy this game until way after the release. I'm prepared to swallow Origin client, even high pricing (Witcher 3 is half the price of this game and with all the content!) but this wild acrobatics with dlc-s are too much for me.

[Kage]

Im fine with this. And I will still get the PS4 version.

 

It is a business for Microsoft, they invest a little money in DAI and get a hook for some RPG-lovers, they give them a reason for them to buy the XBOX instead of the PS4. They already did it for last gen with Skyrim.

 

However, as a RPG lover I know I will have more titles and better games in PS4, and this move will not prevent me from getting the console I consider best, cheaper, and also trusting in the company who defended the gaming industry as we know it some months ago.

 

Sony all the way.

 

And cheers to Bioware for accepting this deal. Please please please accept this kind of deals all you want, more money to make better games with just 1 month of extra-waiting for a DLC? I SUPPORT IT.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Did anyone clarify if it was only the first dlc or is it all, and what exactly is premium dlc?

[Knight of Dane]

Whew, now I got to read through the latest pages.

 

People seem to assume I'm very upset, well maybe a bit but I'm in no way hysterical. As I said in my first post I'm disappointed because I had hoped better of Bioware in the first place. A month of waiting is by no means horrible, but it is unfair regardless.

[Knight of Dane]

What do you mean noone cares about the xbox any more ? Dude ...just log off and have your hissy-fit else were.

Heh, it took a while for anyone to pick up on that.

 

It's a reference to more people buying the new Playstation than the Xbox, not that difficult to understand.

[Sanunes]

Whew, now I got to read through the latest pages.

 

People seem to assume I'm very upset, well maybe a bit but I'm in no way hysterical. As I said in my first post I'm disappointed because I had hoped better of Bioware in the first place. A month of waiting is by no means horrible, but it is unfair regardless.

 

I have no problem with what you are saying or even think you are that upset, but I do think your frustration is aimed at the wrong people when you say "I had hoped better of BioWare" for I think this is like what happened with Titanfall where the developer didn't make the decision to be exclusive to the Xbox and PC, but EA did. The other issue I have with some of the comments here is that they come across to me that they think this is the first time something like this has happened, but its not for both Sony and Microsoft have been doing this for years.

[Kallimachus]

I don't know if I'd read too much into the "premiere" or not.  I know Ray Muzyka always referred to DLC as "PDLC" and when I asked what the P meant, he said "Premium" and it denoted "not free" stuff.

 

Does "Premier DLC" mean we're getting Dave Hancock as a companion? An NPC?

 

I'll just show myself out quietly now.

[L. Han]

Look at it this way: the XBOX folks will be beta testing for you!

[Zombie_Alexis]

I'm not too upset about this. While I'm a little disappointed that I'll have to wait a little longer to get the first dlc, I'm not going to get angry about it. I would be upset if it were exclusive to xbox permanently, but that isn't the case.

[BloodyTalon]

You know for some reason posts like this always make me wanna ask one thing, what system do the devs perfer to play on?

Know it most likely won't get answered but was so curious had to ask.

[Deflagratio]

Not overly concerned with temporary Microsoft DLC exclusivity myself. I'm more concerned if we get "Skyrim" Syndrome with DLC, where the content is literally broken and takes up to a year or more to finally see a release.

 

I don't think that would be the case though, that was a result of Bethesda's poor experience with working on the PS3. By all technical accounts, the PS4 is easier to bring content to than the XB1 is.

[bantam2k]

I don't know if I'd read too much into the "premiere" or not.  I know Ray Muzyka always referred to DLC as "PDLC" and when I asked what the P meant, he said "Premium" and it denoted "not free" stuff.

 

Do you know how long the gap will be between platforms? I hope it doesn't last a year or more.

[BloodyTalon]

The thing is both next gen consoles strike me has snall pcs, could be wrong but picture dlc content will be a bit easier so it won't be a huge wait for ps 4 players like with 3.

[Olmerto]

This deal is a little disappointing, but only a little. DLC typically is an "after play-through" proposition and I like playing just the vanilla game the first time through. If I want more, then I look to DLC. Assuming the game is very good and I'm anxious for more content, then deal will be annoying but there also are a lot of other titles I have to play in the meantime so a delay of, say, a month is essentially a nonfactor.

 

If this deal is a supreme ideological issue for you, then boycott the whole publication. That seems extreme to me if you (1) really like the Dragon Age IP; and (2) want to support Bioware's continued development of this IP. But that's for each individual to decide. Deals like this are sometimes part of business, and while most would rather not see it, it's all about xbox hardware, not about relative value of various customers. Best thing to do -- if you have a choice in the matter -- is NOT to choose xbox as MS/EA want to encourage, and stay with your preferred platform. The smaller the marketing result the less likely such priority deals will continue to be seen.

[durasteel]

A better analogy would probably be more akin to:

 

 

City: We want to upgrade our parks

 

Investor: I can invest in it.  The only stipulation is that you upgrade the parks in this list first.

...

 

With respect, it is much more like:

 

City: We want to build a bridge across the river.

 

General Motors: We can invest in that, but only with the stipulation that you only let people who drive Chevy, GMC, Pontiac, and Cadillac vehicles use it for a while and let us gloat about it in our commercials.

 

If Microsoft wanted to specify the content to be developed using their investment, and create something with a big ugly X on it to promote their little box, and that content would be available to everyone as soon as it was released, then few if any complaints would be heard. When you gate story content by platform, however, it is chicken crap.

[durasteel]

It's threads like these that really reinforce the entitled gamer stereotype. I'm not saying everyone is like that some of you even bring up decent points, but with others.... it's just really sad

 

It's posts like this that reinforce my supposition that anyone who uses the word "entitlement" in a forum post is probably trolling.

 

When you pay 60 bucks for a piece of interactive media, you are entitled to certain reasonable expectations. Just like when you buy a car you're entitled to expect the thing not to randomly turn itself off just because you have a rabbit's foot on your keychain, or to explode in a low-speed rear-end collision, or to roll over when you take a curve at 35 miles an hour.

 

The difference is that when a game fails to meet your reasonable expectations, you post your disgruntlement online, maybe cancel a pending pre-order, maybe even return the game for a refund. When your car tries to kill you, you sue the manufacturer. Both are pretty damn reasonable under the circumstances, "gamer entitlement" posts and insurance lobby funded "tort reform" legislation notwithstanding.

[zambingo]

I love the interaction BioWare has in the forums. It's awesome when it's in a friendly conversation, but whatever issue arises you can pretty much count on someone stepping into the flames. The latter is most impressive to me, even if there are still differing views.