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[Schreckstoff]

First one being timed exclusive I can cope with (still sad about it), but if all the dlc comes to PC and PS4 month or more after Xbone I seriously consider getting my money back from already paid Inquisitors edition and getting DAI used and not bother any of the dlc's. I've supported BioWare always, but I really hope this bites EA in the ass big time. But if it is just the first then I'll continue my support and going to stand first in line at midnight launch

What games do you plan to not get used then within the next year?

[TMJfin]

I usually don't get any games used and for next year, hmm... Shadows of Mordor and The Witcher 3, maybe something if something that interests me comes out

[godModeAlpha]

Y'know, this might be heresy in some quarters, but I'd rather have Day 1 DLC than DLC that's exclusive to one platform or another.

Tis heresy. Day one DLCs mean content was ripped out of the game and sold back for extra profit. EA recently did this with UFC, Bruce Lee was in all the adverts but he was a day 1 DLC.

[godModeAlpha]

Other platforms ain't missing out on nothing ... Tis timed.

Although I would not like seeing much of this timed stuff associated with DA.

All these timed exclusives, exclusive exclusives, day one DLCs should be left with the "EA Big" and "it's in the game" type games like battlefield, Fifa etc.

[andy6915]

If it is not all DLC first on Xbox One I want Bioware to say so because I have read some articles that say all DLC will come first to Xbox One not just first DLC but all DLC in general. So I do have my reasons for thinking it is all DLC because it has been reported on many sites that would be the case. Here is a few of them...

 

http://www.theguardi...-bioware-skyrim

"Microsoft's console will feature exclusive content and is set to get any DLC before PlayStation."

 

http://www.saveconti...gets-dlc-first/

"Continuing on with their theme of getting all DLC first and stuff, Microsoft has confirmed at their press conference that the Xbox One will receive all DLC before any other platform."

 

http://segmentnext.c...st-on-xbox-one/

"You will also get to see some of the returning and new characters of the franchise. All the future content will be first come on Xbox One than any other platform."

Wait, Xbox One? So even if I got the 360 version, that console's version would also not get access to it? I thought it was both Microsoft consoles that got the exclusive.

[godModeAlpha]

Wait, Xbox One? So even if I got the 360 version, that console's version would also not get access to it? I thought it was both Microsoft consoles that got the exclusive.

Damn Microsoft, even selling their fans short ... Lol

[Gnoster]

Wait, Xbox One? So even if I got the 360 version, that console's version would also not get access to it? I thought it was both Microsoft consoles that got the exclusive.

 

From Microsoft's perspective giving it to Xbox 360 owners wouldn't give you incentive to buy a Xbox One, which I would imagine is their main reasoning behind timed exclusive content. It is a sound business strategy from Microsoft's perspective (or Sonys when they do it), from EA's perspective it's probably more a matter of weighing the revenue gotten from Microsoft from the deal against the potential loss of customer satisfaction and revenue due to less purchases, that's how I would view as the business (as the customer I am against any form of exclusive content, be it timed or not, as it doesn't benefit the consumers).

[Fast Jimmy]

Wait, Xbox One? So even if I got the 360 version, that console's version would also not get access to it? I thought it was both Microsoft consoles that got the exclusive.

I can understand the mentality. They don't want to encourage you to hold onto your old 360 anymore than they want to encourage you to play the game on a Sony or PC platform.

If I was MS, I'd entertain the idea of doing a XB1 DLC release first, a PC/360 release next, then Sony last. After all, they get money from selling copies of Windows for PC.

[andy6915]

Damn Microsoft, even selling their fans short ... Lol

I'm not really a fan of them, exactly. I don't care for Microsoft as a company, but the 360 did have enough good games to warrant buying. I also own a PS3. And my money situation is such that the PS4 and Xbox One are simply out of the question for the next year. I also intend to only get a PS4 anyway, Xbox One doesn't have any games that interest me right now whereas the PS4 has a decent number.

 

But yeah, here I was thinking at least the 360 version would get me the DLC on release. Which would have stunk because I prefer the PS3 for my DA games, but the DLC might have made a worthwhile trade-off. Guess I'll get the PS3 version after all, if even the 360 ain't getting it.

[DaySeeker]

Tis heresy. Day one DLCs mean content was ripped out of the game and sold back for extra profit. EA recently did this with UFC, Bruce Lee was in all the adverts but he was a day 1 DLC.

 

Not true.  First, find out what the dlc is, if it is not integral to the game's world or story, if it takes nothing from the game to not have it in there, then the company owes you nothing.  How many fighters did you get to play in the UFC game?  Bruce Lee was never a UFC fighter, and some would not want him in their game.  If a company has provided you with a complete and viable, enjoyable product you have gotten what you paid for.  They do not owe you everything they produce for a license for one low fee.  Dragon Age was a 60 hour game, Mass Effect was huge, having a ream working on DLC at the same time as the main game does not mean it is part of the main game, it means they expect people will want to play more and not to have to wait 6 months to a year for the content.  A company needs to be profitable to make the games you like, and they must be able to decide how much their time is worth.  SOme games (Prince of PErsia) left out endings to their game and sold it as dlc- that is crappy, but Bioware has not done this.  

 

Decide on a case by case basis whether a company is treating its customers with respect.  I like dlc.  If I don't want it I don't get it, putting something I don't want in the game most likely means it replaces something I do want.  Having it be dlc rewards the company's time in creating it and allows players to decide if they're willing to pay for it.  

[DisturbedJim83]

I'm not really a fan of them, exactly. I don't care for Microsoft as a company, but the 360 did have enough good games to warrant buying. I also own a PS3. And my money situation is such that the PS4 and Xbox One are simply out of the question for the next year. I also intend to only get a PS4 anyway, Xbox One doesn't have any games that interest me right now whereas the PS4 has a decent number.

 

But yeah, here I was thinking at least the 360 version would get me the DLC on release. Which would have stunk because I prefer the PS3 for my DA games, but the DLC might have made a worthwhile trade-off. Guess I'll get the PS3 version after all, if even the 360 ain't getting it.

Even though I'm what console gamers call a "PC Elitist"(apparently knowing the PC is superior and openly saying it makes me an "elitist" but Whatever) I would not bother with either PS4 or XB1 both are overpriced for what they are,furthermore it turns out that the initial rumour the MS was intending to either replace or majorly overhaul the XB1 is actually true, and if they do that then Sony is sure to follow suit.

 

Your best option by far is build your own PC,$600 will buy you parts to makes a PC that is far more powerful than a XB1/PS4 if you use a GTX 770/R9 280 you'll have twice the TFLOP performance of either console, plus you'll be able to maintain a constant 60FPS@1920x1080 whereas neither console can hold that for more than a few seconds.

[godModeAlpha]

Not true.  First, find out what the dlc is, if it is not integral to the game's world or story, if it takes nothing from the game to not have it in there, then the company owes you nothing.  How many fighters did you get to play in the UFC game?  Bruce Lee was never a UFC fighter, and some would not want him in their game.  If a company has provided you with a complete and viable, enjoyable product you have gotten what you paid for.  They do not owe you everything they produce for a license for one low fee.  Dragon Age was a 60 hour game, Mass Effect was huge, having a ream working on DLC at the same time as the main game does not mean it is part of the main game, it means they expect people will want to play more and not to have to wait 6 months to a year for the content.  A company needs to be profitable to make the games you like, and they must be able to decide how much their time is worth.  SOme games (Prince of PErsia) left out endings to their game and sold it as dlc- that is crappy, but Bioware has not done this.  
 
Decide on a case by case basis whether a company is treating its customers with respect.  I like dlc.  If I don't want it I don't get it, putting something I don't want in the game most likely means it replaces something I do want.  Having it be dlc rewards the company's time in creating it and allows players to decide if they're willing to pay for it.

Then that was false advertising. Many would have thought Bruce Lee was actually in the game and unlock-able day one too.

I like DLCs too, especially ones that expand the game, for example the Javik DLC in ME3, but not DLCs that clearly should have been part of the game.

Everyone wants the game studio to get paid, it is only fair after the amount of hard work, but there is a line that should not be crossed. I find that most of the time it's crossed by studios who publish their games through any of the big 3: EA, Ubisoft, and Activition.

[andy6915]

Even though I'm what console gamers call a "PC Elitist"(apparently knowing the PC is superior and openly saying it makes me an "elitist" but Whatever) I would not bother with either PS4 or XB1 both are overpriced for what they are,furthermore it turns out that the initial rumour the MS was intending to either replace or majorly overhaul the XB1 is actually true, and if they do that then Sony is sure to follow suit.

 

Your best option by far is build your own PC,$600 will buy you parts to makes a PC that is far more powerful than a XB1/PS4 if you use a GTX 770/R9 280 you'll have twice the TFLOP performance of either console, plus you'll be able to maintain a constant 60FPS@1920x1080 whereas neither console can hold that for more than a few seconds.

If I had 600 I would already have a PS4. The fact that I don't means that isn't an option either. I would love a big gaming PC, but it's not going to happen for me. Not to mention I have no idea how to build it, and I know that pre-built gaming PCs suck bollocks.

[Burricho]

Even though I'm what console gamers call a "PC Elitist"(apparently knowing the PC is superior and openly saying it makes me an "elitist" but Whatever) I would not bother with either PS4 or XB1 both are overpriced for what they are,furthermore it turns out that the initial rumour the MS was intending to either replace or majorly overhaul the XB1 is actually true, and if they do that then Sony is sure to follow suit.

 

Your best option by far is build your own PC,$600 will buy you parts to makes a PC that is far more powerful than a XB1/PS4 if you use a GTX 770/R9 280 you'll have twice the TFLOP performance of either console, plus you'll be able to maintain a constant 60FPS@1920x1080 whereas neither console can hold that for more than a few seconds.

Great, let's have another PC MASTER RACE LOLOL argument. Because we need more of those. Also, are you factoring in the price of a desktop into that price?

[Schreckstoff]

Even though I'm what console gamers call a "PC Elitist"(apparently knowing the PC is superior and openly saying it makes me an "elitist" but Whatever) I would not bother with either PS4 or XB1 both are overpriced for what they are,furthermore it turns out that the initial rumour the MS was intending to either replace or majorly overhaul the XB1 is actually true, and if they do that then Sony is sure to follow suit.

Your best option by far is build your own PC,$600 will buy you parts to makes a PC that is far more powerful than a XB1/PS4 if you use a GTX 770/R9 280 you'll have twice the TFLOP performance of either console, plus you'll be able to maintain a constant 60FPS@1920x1080 whereas neither console can hold that for more than a few seconds.

And you wonder why you are being taken for a PC elitist?

You actually believe MS is throwing away r&d costs as well as creating an insane pr disaster by screwing over 5 million early adopters, lol.

[Sanunes]

Then that was false advertising. Many would have thought Bruce Lee was actually in the game and unlock-able day one too.

I like DLCs too, especially ones that expand the game, for example the Javik DLC in ME3, but not DLCs that clearly should have been part of the game.

Everyone wants the game studio to get paid, it is only fair after the amount of hard work, but there is a line that should not be crossed. I find that most of the time it's crossed by studios who publish their games through any of the big 3: EA, Ubisoft, and Activition.

 

I believe there are (were) three ways to unlock Bruce Lee from my understanding.  The first was to pre-order the game and get an unlock code, the second is to buy the unlock from the store, and the third is to beat career mode on hard difficulty.

Modifié par Sanunes, 12 juillet 2014 - 05:01 .

[DisturbedJim83]

Great, let's have another PC MASTER RACE LOLOL argument. Because we need more of those. Also, are you factoring in the price of a desktop into that price?

that's like asking does a XB!/PS4 buyer factor in the cost of PSPlus/XBLG a TV oh and ISP Costs.

 

Yes you can build a desktop PC for that price and plug it into your HDMI TV 

 

Even this pre built one with a mouse and keyboard added in costs the less then a XB1 would with a game hell it even includes a copy of BF4 and I could build one myself for less http://secure.ncixus...89A0D05-5901132

[DisturbedJim83]

And you wonder why you are being taken for a PC elitist?

You actually believe MS is throwing away r&d costs as well as creating an insane pr disaster by screwing over 5 million early adopters, lol.

Yes they are suppose you aint been paying attention to the news they had 3 job listing for Xbox Hardware here this video @0:39   See for yourself 

[Estel78]

It's not unusual to start working on next-gen early. Doesn't mean a new console is coming out in the next couple years.

[godModeAlpha]

I believe there are (were) three ways to unlock Bruce Lee from my understanding.  The first was to pre-order the game and get an unlock code, the second is to buy the unlock from the store, and the third is to beat career mode on hard difficulty.

Ahh, ok. Apologies, though I don't understand why EA would make Charge to unlock Lee.

[Darvins]

Yes they are suppose you aint been paying attention to the news they had 3 job listing for Xbox Hardware here this video @0:39   See for yourself 

 

Although this is getting way way off topic, you do realise your own linked too source is talking about a Slim Version of the Xbox One and not a new console right, so we are not looking at a quick snap to the next Xbox and simply just a slim line version of the Xbox One, working out how to get it better cooled and so on, is their best guess on what the hirings mean. It could also frankly refer to new hardware for the Xbox One, say a competitor to the Occulus Rift or similar. To jump too it must mean a new Console is... not backed up by even your own source. 

 

I want to add, many of us console gamers are well aware of the advantages of PC's, we also know the big advantage of a Console. We know when we take that game home and put the DVD in the drive that the game will work, that it won't have issues with our hardware, that we won't have to fiddle with settings, that once the game has installed we can just press play and get into things. That is why we picked console often, to have that assurance for the next 8-10 years. 

[Estel78]

Also good points.

[DisturbedJim83]

Although this is getting way way off topic, you do realise your own linked too source is talking about a Slim Version of the Xbox One and not a new console right, so we are not looking at a quick snap to the next Xbox and simply just a slim line version of the Xbox One, working out how to get it better cooled and so on, is their best guess on what the hirings mean. It could also frankly refer to new hardware for the Xbox One, say a competitor to the Occulus Rift or similar. To jump too it must mean a new Console is... not backed up by even your own source. 

 

I want to add, many of us console gamers are well aware of the advantages of PC's, we also know the big advantage of a Console. We know when we take that game home and put the DVD in the drive that the game will work, that it won't have issues with our hardware, that we won't have to fiddle with settings, that once the game has installed we can just press play and get into things. That is why we picked console often, to have that assurance for the next 8-10 years. 

How did BF4 go on launch day for you ?

[Darvins]

How did BF4 go on launch day for you ?

 

I had no problems (as I have not got the game) through your point here? That was not a problem with the hardware of the console, nor a problem limited to the consoles. So if the worst you can say is 'When a piece of software is buggy, consoles still get bugs') yeah. *sigh* why do some PC gamers have this urge, this need to insist they are using the only machine worth using, worse than Console Fanboys at times, why does it bother some PC gamers so much that other people may enjoy the console Experience? It's like... that fear that other people like something they don't drives them insane.

 

Anyway enough on the tangent back to the OP topic for me.

[Estel78]

I want to add, many of us console gamers are well aware of the advantages of PC's, we also know the big advantage of a Console. We know when we take that game home and put the DVD in the drive that the game will work, that it won't have issues with our hardware, that we won't have to fiddle with settings, that once the game has installed we can just press play and get into things. That is why we picked console often, to have that assurance for the next 8-10 years. 

 

This is exactly the reason why i play on consoles. It's just an all around more pleasant experience. I was a PC player till Mass Effect, i bought a 360 just to play that game an never looked back. I remember the last game i played on PC (that was also available on other platforms) was Bioshock where i had that bug where framerates got halved for some strange reasons. It's just a mess. I'm not saying every experience was like that on PC or even the majority but they DO happen once in a while.