E3 begs to differ. *shrug*Its not even a war at this point, it's just Microsoft doing small skirmishes against ps4.
Having to wait an extra month to get DLC? Time to get my rant on.
Here's the thing: in some contexts, I'd actually agree with your implied point. You're endorsing a consequentialist ethical viewpoint here: in other words, you don't think what EA did was that bad because the outcome, for gamers, isn't that bad. And normally, I take that view too. Here's my problem though: EA is driven to make a profit above all else, and they will do whatever they can get away with to pad their bottom line, even if it hurts their customers. So letting something like this exclusivity deal off the hook, on the grounds that it didn't really do any major damage, only reinforces EA's pattern of anti-consumer behavior.
So in this case, I'm not arguing from consequences, I'm arguing from principles. And, in principle, what EA did was wrong.
[Insert outrage over BioWare not catering to their 'true' PC fans. We made them famous in the first place!]
I don't know if this was directed specifically at me, but since your other post was in reply to me, I'll just say quickly that it is a bit unfair of you to assume that someone arguing against preferential treatment of certain platforms over others would actually approve of such an idea if only it benefited them.
Tweeting the senior staff would be a decent start. Finding various feedback emails. This thread's existence is one of them. Remain civil... making multiple topics with increasing hostility and excessive cursing will probably do a better job of silencing your voice (and making them fall on deaf ears). But I have a sneaking suspicion that that suggesting was made in jest
Perhaps a facebook page or a petition should be made to show our concern.
Edit: But it would be nice if we would know what the premiere content is.
Eh, timed exclusives aren't a big deal to me. I only care that all content is available to all customers eventually. Everyone should be able to buy, earn or unlock every bit of game content. A timed delay doesn't really mean much to me, it is just a marketing gimmick and a minor inconvenience.
This. The wording of the announcement really only intimates that some customers will get the content earlier than everyone else .... who will all probably get it eventually. I would prefer other, but see no valid reason to get militant about this sort of practice.
Exclusives are common place nowadays. When ME2 came out I had to buy a couple bottles of Dr Pepper (blegh) to get the codes for their exclusive promo items (a couple armor pieces, and a weapon or two). I had to frickin' rent a copy of Dead Space 2 (which I never played) when Dragon Age 2 came out so that I could snag the insert with the DA2 Isaac Clarke armor code.
I don't particularly like exclusives, but as long as they're small aesthetic items I think it's harmless. Also, if I recall all of these items became available for download eventually w/o the codes.
...now if we're talking about missions or story-related content - that is a big problem. Don't mess with my narrative.
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Out of curiosity, would there be so much outrage if it was the other way round?
Yes, using bribes to make other people's product worse instead of improving your own would be extremely frowned upon and boycotted if most consumers had a clue on how to use the market.
These kind of moves help no one but MS/Sony shareholders (not consumers) and go against the whole point of a market economy.
Ultimately the bottom line is that Microsoft valued DAI higher than Sony did, either way those of us playing on the PC were going to end up on the short end of things, but the Sony fans being angry at EA or Bioware are taking their frustration out on the wrong company. It's not EA's fault for taking the higher bid, anyone in their right mind would've done that, it's Sony's fault for not being the company that offered the most money. If you're going to write somebody, write Sony and tell them to value the Dragon Age franchise, and Bioware generally, higher in the future. In the meantime, we can all be happy that things like this make the game that much more successful, and help assure that we get more DA games in the future, so it's rather a small price to pay in the scheme of things, to just have to wait a bit for a single DLC.
E3 begs to differ. *shrug*
And Sony loves to throw around money just as much as MS does. I don't like the practice either, but recognise that it's a valid (from a business perspective) way of getting a leg up. That's my point.
Exactly, Sony has now thrown more money at the last two AC games to get exclusive content on Playstation that Xbox will never get. This is just waiting a month for the first DLC, it's really not that big of a deal, especially depending on the timeline most people will still be exploring the base game by the time the DLC hits, I know I will be at least.
Yeah I want to say a lot of things right now...but I dont want to get banned.
All I will say is that I seriously doubt I will buy content as a PC gamer that I had to wait for cause EA/Bioware took a pay out from Microsoft.
At the very least its not like the game itself was delayed, cause if that were to happen I would not buy it at all.
[Insert outrage over BioWare not catering to their 'true' PC fans. We made them famous in the first place!]
What? Lady what have you been smoking? True fans? PC players? Never...please log off and don't ever come back after saying something like that.
EA is also money hungry right now, with a $50,000,000 lawsuit to pay off. I'll be playing PC.
Well, if you're talking about the Robin Antonick / Madden NFL case, you might want to keep up with the court's rulings:
Court overturns verdict against EA in Madden copyright lawsuit (update)
By Samit Sarkar on Jan 24, 2014 at 12:15p @SamitSarkar
Six months after a jury decided in favor of an original Madden developer in his copyright-infringement lawsuit against publisher Electronic Arts, a federal court overturned the verdict and granted EA's motion for a new trial...
... But in a decision issued Jan. 22, 2014, Judge Charles Breyer of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California fundamentally disagreed with that verdict, saying it was contrary to the evidence Antonick's lawyers presented.
"Even construing the evidence in the light most favorable to Antonick, there is no legally sufficient basis for the jury's verdict that any of the Sega Madden games as a whole are virtually identical to Apple II Madden as a whole," Breyer wrote.
(BTW: Before the verdict was overturned the jury had only awarded him US$11M anyway. Drop in the bucket to EA.)
To be completely honest... don't care. As long as I'm getting the chance to play it at some point if I so choose, I'm completely happy.
// Signed: a PS3 player who had to wait for over five years to play ME1 on her prefered console. Still worth it.
Bah, I'm still sticking to PC version!
Me too. Wow you have such a beautiful avatar!. Sorry for off-topic
Ultimately the bottom line is that Microsoft valued DAI higher than Sony did, either way those of us playing on the PC were going to end up on the short end of things, but the Sony fans being angry at EA or Bioware are taking their frustration out on the wrong company. It's not EA's fault for taking the higher bid, anyone in their right mind would've done that, it's Sony's fault for not being the company that offered the most money. If you're going to write somebody, write Sony and tell them to value the Dragon Age franchise, and Bioware generally, higher in the future. In the meantime, we can all be happy that things like this make the game that much more successful, and help assure that we get more DA games in the future, so it's rather a small price to pay in the scheme of things, to just have to wait a bit for a single DLC.
I disagree, its not sony or microsofts job to make sure all platforms get the same thing. EA and bioware hold responsibility in making sure all of their fans get the same thing. And giving a chunk of their fans early content for a quick cash in betrays that.
Being upset over timed exclusive DLC would imply that I'm planning to buy DLC for this game when, historically, BioWare has failed to impress me with their DLCs. While the microtransaction model certainly works for some games, I feel that games like this work better with full sized expansion packs.
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