no, the Crucible needed the citadel as a power source and apparently the crucible gave the catalyst extra options.Wasn't that because the Citadel needed the Crucible in order for the Catalyst to be "turned on" though? I don't remember every detail about the ending, so I could be wrong on that, but that is what I remember.
I feel like I've been sent back two years with this.
it is likely only gonna get worse until more concrete details are given to us. Then it is all going to improve significantly or collapse on itself like a star turning into a black hole...I feel like I've been sent back two years with this.
The Catalyst is the Citadel respectively the Catalyst controls the Citadel, correct? Yet the Cataylst can't open the mass relay in the Citadel to let the Reapers re-enter the galaxy.
Making all of the events that lead up to the Reaper invasion seem completely pointless and grossly illogical is a feat that is really (isn't) hard to beat.
Just sayin'.
What makes you think the Catalyst had any direct control over the Citadel before the Crucible docked?
Being the collective knowledge of the Reapers and the overseer of the cycles residing somewhere within the Citadel doesn't necessarily mean it has complete autonomy over its functions. Those functions would make it easier to detect in its system, and it's clear that the Reapers designed the Citadel and the relays with a hands-off "guided evolution" approach in mind. How does Sovereign know that it's the proper time to signal the keepers?
Many criticisms you can lob at the relays not being shut off at any time can be lobbed at ME1, too. Why'd they build this thing without a simpler and more reliable on-off switch than a series of signals that can be hacked by the Protheans (which could have easily been done by previous more-advanced civilizations)?
you mean besides it being the hyper advanced AI that built the citadel? No reason really.....What makes you think the Catalyst had any direct control over the Citadel before the Crucible docked?
you mean besides it being the hyper advanced AI that built the citadel? No reason really.....
Did you read the rest of what I wrote?
If it were ever discovered early enough that the Reapers had direct control over the Citadel, it's not too difficult to figure out what the cycle would do in that situation.
it is likely only gonna get worse until more concrete details are given to us. Then it is all going to improve significantly or collapse on itself like a star turning into a black hole...
Perhaps, but I have a lot of other **** to worry about to keep me preoccupied.
Perhaps, but I have a lot of other **** to worry about to keep me preoccupied.
Most people do.
which the Leviathans did knowDid you read the rest of what I wrote?
If it were ever discovered that the Reapers had direct control over the Citadel, it's not too difficult to figure out what the cycle would do in that situation.
which the Leviathans did know
all along
while being able to "indoctrinate" their own agents and being active in between cycles. But no one blew up the citadel in several bajillion years.
also, in the eventuality of discovery it would be easy for the catalyst to usher in the reapers as per usual that is assuming the reaction of those discovering this was to blow up everything.
I strongly doubt the isolationist Leviathans would jump at the chance to try and blow up the Citadel, thus running the risk of exposing their presence.
uh...HOW? when all they had to do was indoctrinate just a few people and blow it up? Oh and while taking out the very intelligence behind the reapers no less assuming, like you said, it was defenseless and had no control on the citadel.I strongly doubt the isolationist Leviathans would jump at the chance to try and blow up the Citadel, thus running the risk of exposing their presence.
uh...HOW? when all they had to do was indoctrinate just a few people and blow it up? Oh and while taking out the very intelligence behind the reapers no less assuming, like you said, it was defenseless and had no control on the citadel.
Try and blow it up, you mean. Try. And they'd be exposed by their indoctrination globes. Their mind-control doesn't work the same as the Reapers.
Also, remember what the repercussions are of forcibly blowing up a mass relay, let alone its hub of operations, instead of the controlled detonation from the Crucible.
Furthermore, that's simply not in-character with the Leviathans.
Repercussions? You mean death of thousands of individuals of tributary races that exist to serve the Leviathans in order to cripple their enemy and likely undo the reapers completely? Sounds perfectly in character for a "god race" to me. Sure, it would require finesse and whatnot but it would hardly be a monumental task with millennia to prepareTry and blow it up, you mean. Try. And they'd be exposed by their indoctrination globes. Their mind-control doesn't work the same as the Reapers.
Also, remember what the repercussions are of forcibly blowing up a mass relay, let alone its hub of operations, instead of the controlled detonation from the Crucible.
Furthermore, that's simply not in-character with the Leviathans.
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I feel like I've been sent back two years with this.
Repercussions? You mean death of thousands of individuals of tributary races that exist to serve the Leviathans in order to cripple their enemy and likely undo the reapers completely? Sounds perfectly in character for a "god race" to me. Sure, it would require finesse and whatnot but it would hardly be a monumental task with millennia to prepare
The Leviathan DLC says otherwise.
They're pessimistic and voyeuristic isolationists, content to safely sit on their ivory thrones and conduct their business while weaker races rise and fall.
right, because they know that an attempt to stop the reapers with an apparently no brainer move is ill conceived given that there is no chance in hell the catalyst does not have control of the citadelThe Leviathan DLC says otherwise.
They're pessimistic and voyeuristic isolationists, content to safely sit on their ivory thrones and conduct their business while weaker races rise and fall.
right, because they know that an attempt to stop the reapers with an apparently no brainer move is ill conceived given that there is no chance in hell the catalyst does not have control of the citadel
That's quite a stretch in thought, and it still goes against their isolationist superiority complex and their fearful resign to the Reapers' reign.
no it does not...sacrifice tributary races to regain supremacy which they lament they have lost in the leviathan DCL? sounds just about right to me.That's quite a stretch in thought, and it still goes against their isolationist superiority complex and their fearful resign to the Reapers' reign.
no it does not...sacrifice tributary races to regain supremacy which they lament they have lost in the leviathan DCL? sounds just about right to me.
While running the risk of blowing their cover and drawing the Reapers' attention in the next harvest, assuming the Reapers don't deploy any kind of counter-measures. Yes, it still does, and their inaction across millions upon millions of years is a testament to that fact.
it's a testament to the fact that they know the bratalyst is not in any way shape or form not in control of the cytadelWhile running the risk of blowing their cover and drawing the Reapers' attention in the next harvest, assuming the Reapers don't deploy any kind of counter-measures. Yes, it still does, and their inaction across millions upon millions of years is a testament to that fact.
it's a testament to the fact that they know the bratalyst is not in any way shape or form not in control of the cytadel
It's likely a testament to the fact that they know they couldn't succeed, but it's certainly not a testament, whatsoever, to what you're asserting.
how in hell could they possibly fail????It's likely a testament to the fact that they know they couldn't succeed, but it's certainly not a testament, whatsoever, to what you're asserting.
how in hell could they possibly fail????
Any number of ways, especially if the Reapers were tipped off about their plans.
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