There will always be more whiners on the forums: those that like the game are playing it and enjoying it, or have finished it and are satisfied and go play a different game.
Or they come to the forums to talk about their beloved game and see only haters, immediatly leave again.
I played WoW for several years, and I hear ya there.
Oddly enough I'm not as livid as I thought I would be. All I ask is that everyone on the writers staff gets a say, and he and Hudson don't Hijack the Script.
Well.....the guy's new position could be a promoveatur ut amoveatur thing.....but I doubt it since, you know, he still thinks he did nothing wrong ME3 and will likely never think otherwise. I am fairly sure he will try to impose "art" on ME4 too.
We'll see. I'm not sure their thoughts on the subject are the same behind closed doors as they are in the public
Maybe they are...there's no way to know for sure, but I don't think the mistakes of ME3 will be repeated.
I'm very hopeful of that.
We'll see. I'm not sure their thoughts on the subject are the same behind closed doors as they are in the public
And besides that, you can believe you did the right ending for ME3 while being unwilling to go through the months of harrassment that follows again.
Perhaps he'll find a nice middle ground with the lessons he's learned, such as "I'll do an artistic ending that doesn't mess with the waifus."
ANd using that phrase would prove that nothing was learned.
ANd using that phrase would prove that nothing was learned.
ANd using that phrase would prove that nothing was learned.
I don't really agree, given the fact that MEHEM's core draw comes in the form of a reunion (by way of a flying eagle).
I don't really agree, given the fact that MEHEM's core draw comes in the form of a reunion (by way of a flying eagle).
Guess you're not aware of the alternate version now 
Guess you're not aware of the alternate version now
Sorry, no, I haven't been keeping tabs on every single development nuance of the fan-fiction ending.
Last I saw, which wasn't that long ago, the flying eagle was still there.
Some of the late comers or moderate fans have read the reviews, and don't give a crap. I've been hearing the ranting and raving in reviews for years before I even touched the Mass Effect games. I didn't think I'd like the game play, which is what kept me from the series, not the angry rants from the fans. All I can say is that I'm glad I ignored the most extreme of the anger, otherwise I wouldn't have played a great series that did admittedly suffer from a weak ending.
Sorry, worst video game ending ever? Here's one: The end of Neverwinter Nights 2. Rocks Fall, Everyone Dies. Seriously, that's the ending. The epilogue slide sounds like it was done by an overworked developer and they never got a VA to record to lines. You don't find out about what happened to your party until the expansion and even then they are only given one-two lines by a party member-turned NPC explaining their fate. You don't go back to the area you just saved, you have an entirely new party. The expansion was great, but the ending to the OG campaign was one of the worst endings I've ever experienced. I loved that series and that ending almost turned me off of any future Neverwinter Nights games.
I'm not justifying the ending of ME3, nor am I hand waving the various other plot problems and inconsistencies throughout the series. It just seems silly to call this the "worst video game ending ever" or even "BioWare's worst ending ever," after NWN2.
Don't forget the abomination of an ending that was Star Ocean 3 or the ending to Rage, which literally made me rage, even more than the ending to Ghostbusters on the NES(dat closing message). Though to be fair, in Ghostbusters case the entire game was awful, it's just that the ending stands out because of the message.
If Mass Effect 3's ending is the worst some people have ever seen then they should be thankful, because they haven't had to see some of the complete hot garbage which some of us have had to endure.
Sorry, no, I haven't been keeping tabs on every single development nuance of the fan-fiction ending.
Last I saw, which wasn't that long ago, the flying eagle was still there.
And now there is an alternate version, which keeps the entire ending intact (yes even the Catalyst, you can even choose the other endings) aside from a few minor alterations. The big difference is now the breath scene takes place before the memorial scene. With some extra voice work demonstrating the crew went back and found Shepard in the rubble. Then Shepard at the memorial wall.
It puts on the screne what Bioware told us to headcanon in teh first place
And now there is an alternate version, which keeps the entire ending intact (yes even the Catalyst, you can even choose the other endings) aside from a few minor alterations. The big difference is now the breath scene takes place before the memorial scene. With some extra voice work demonstrating the crew went back and found Shepard in the rubble. Then Shepard at the memorial wall.
It puts on the screne what Bioware told us to headcanon in teh first place
Don't forget the abomination of an ending that was Star Ocean 3 or the ending to Rage, which literally made me rage, even more than the ending to Ghostbusters on the NES(dat closing message). Though to be fair, in Ghostbusters case the entire game was awful, it's just that the ending stands out because of the message.
If Mass Effect 3's ending is the worst some people have ever seen then they should be thankful, because they haven't had to see some of the complete hot garbage which some of us have had to endure.
There are many horrible game endings, absolutely, but personally I don't consider anyone near ME3. For a few simple reasons;
1) BioWare never disappointed me in the past. From BG to ME2, even DA2.
2) This was a 5-6 year trilogy. This was not a standalone game. Rage for its **** ending was just that.
3) Many people get very involved when playing the same character for many years. Even more so when they get to decide the characters "morality", love life and personality (to a degree). This was not killing off Lara Croft or Master Chief.
I can understand why the EC satisfied many. If it was standalone game, I think I'd even enjoy it myself. But it wasn't, and quite honestly I think Shepard deserved better. To this day I'm jealous of those who found peace, or even joy with ME3s end.
BTW, since you mention Ghostbusters. Such endings were the norm for most NES games, especially the early ones.
Don't forget the abomination of an ending that was Star Ocean 3 or the ending to Rage, which literally made me rage, even more than the ending to Ghostbusters on the NES(dat closing message). Though to be fair, in Ghostbusters case the entire game was awful, it's just that the ending stands out because of the message.
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There will always be more whiners on the forums: those that like the game are playing it and enjoying it, or have finished it and are satisfied and go play a different game.
Or they come to the forums to talk about their beloved game and see only haters, immediatly leave again.
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I couldn't believe it when I saw Mac Walter's mug in the video. Was the writing in Mass Effect 3 not bad enough or what? Seriously.
I'm sorry for being so negative and cruel, but I just think this is a terrible decision after the ME3 fiasco. Somebody else should be lead writer... somebody like Drew Karpyshyn.
I believe in Drew Karpyshyn.
I believe in Drew Karpyshyn.
I don't. Not much (any?) more than Mac Walters, at least.
Was it really Star Ocean 3's ending that was awful, compared to the rest of the game? I mean it was about as awful as everything that happened post-twist, but I'd still identify the twist itself as comparatively cringe-inducing.
I don't. Not much (any?) more than Mac Walters, at least.
How so?
How so?
His writing is deeply flawed and bends lore, too, along with being guilty of "Rule of Cool".
From Vigil's info-dump to the Saren-Sovereign link, there are plenty of problems and contradictions to pick at in ME1's ending.
His writing is deeply flawed and bends lore, too, along with being guilty of "Rule of Cool".
From Vigil's info-dump to the Saren-Sovereign link, there are plenty of problems and contradictions to pick at in ME1's ending.
Emotional payoff > lore nitpicks
Crappy "art" leaden ending with no real emotional payoff -minus a gasp- after six+ years = the writer's skills are going to be picked apart at each and every corner.
unfair, sure, but hopefully next time he is gonna think twice (that is assuming he is going to be allowed to have that much control in the future)
also....kai ****ing leng
Emotional payoff > lore nitpicks
Crappy "art" leaden ending with no real emotional payoff -minus a gasp- after six+ years = the writer's skills are going to be picked apart at each and every corner.
unfair, sure, but hopefully next time he is gonna think twice (that is assuming he is going to be allowed to have that much control in the future)
also....kai ****ing leng
Eh, Matriarch f*cking Benezia, and ME1 pulls the same garbage about an "unearned villain victory" with Saren on Virmire when he hops of the helipad.
Eh, Matriarch f*cking Benezia, and ME1 pulls the same garbage about an "unearned villain victory" with Saren on Virmire when he hops of the helipad.
Benezia is no way near as annoyin or hated by the fanbase and there is a reason for it.
Saren never insta wins on virmire, you still drive him back and you still foil his plan of creating an army of Krogan. Sue you lose Ash/Kaiden but you succeed, it is not a total freakin loss rubbed then in via 5 years old tauntin letter afterward.
Shall we talk about the lovely Thane/Kirrahe scene too? because that one is GOLD too.
Benezia is no way near as annoyin or hated by the fanbase and there is a reason for it.
Saren never insta wins on virmire, you still drive him back and you still foil his plan of creating an army of Krogan. Sue you lose Ash/Kaiden but you succeed, it is not a total freakin loss rubbed then in via 5 years old tauntin letter afterward.
Shall we talk about the lovely Thane/Kirrahe scene too? because that one is GOLD too.
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