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[Reznore57]

I imagine his companion quest will involve whether or not to defect and become Tal-Vasoth. I wonder what his dialogue will be with Varric, a person who witnessed the worse of the Qunari in their assault on Kirkwall.

 

I also think the question of him leaving the Qun or not will be part of his story.

I don't want to influence him too much but it's interesting how he's pushing Freedom to the point where it's unhealthy.

For me , I see life as a (sometimes difficult)balancing act , sometimes you need to go a bit wild and sometimes you need to rein it in.

And this dude is stuck between two extreme.

So I'm really interested talking with him in game...

[Reznore57]

I made a comparison elsewhere to Oghren. lol. It's almost like.. I think he'd be better off with the Qun. Even though I'm not a fan.

 

I think , in a ideal world , he should keep some stuff he learned from the Qun and some he learned from the outside world.

The discipline but still being able to enjoy himself.

Problem is Thedas has no place for someone who's only Half Qunari.

[AkiKishi]

All the companions so far seem to have issues that could send them in one of two directions. I think that's going to be a big part of the game.

[Reznore57]

The Qunari don't have this pick and choose mentality of "choice" either. It's kind of all or nothing. You embrace your "true nature", and you find purpose. There is nothing else. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

I know.

That's one of the main problem of the Qun , no flexibility.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Uhm.... Qunari can have fun and let loose too.... It is not like Equilibrium where a state of complete emotionlessness must be maintained.

[The Ascendant]

Uhm.... Qunari can have fun and let loose too.... It is not like Equilibrium where a state of complete emotionlessness must be maintained.

True. When a Qunoran Vehl is declared they celebrate and have parades.

Kind of sad how they view the world. You are either one of us (Qunari) or you are not. A very narrow minded view of the world. So it is literally them vs the world.

[EmperorSahlertz]

On designated occasions apparently (if you were referring to what Sten said at the DAO coronation).

 

True. When a Qunoran Vehl is declared they celebrate and have parades.

Kind of sad how they view the world. You are either one of us (Qunari) or you are not. A very narrow minded view of the world. So it is literally them vs the world.

So ONLY whenever there is an equivalent of a carneval can anything be considered "fun" according to the two of you?

 

You understand that Qunari does not work from sun up to sundown, and only sleep in between? They have downtime. They have friends. They just don't go get shitfaced in the weekend.

[Reznore57]

Uhm.... Qunari can have fun and let loose too.... It is not like Equilibrium where a state of complete emotionlessness must be maintained.

 

Sure they can have fun.

But I'm not sure they can have a nice day , be happy and decide "Well tonight I'm celebrating , gonna put my pants on my head , drink myself silly , run down the street naked and go find someone to play "ride the Bull"".

 

And with the kind of not really funny job he was doing back then (hunting rebels) , I assume in Seheron , he probably needed to blow a fuse .

And I'm not sure the Qun allows that .

[leaguer of one]

I think , in a ideal world , he should keep some stuff he learned from the Qun and some he learned from the outside world.

The discipline but still being able to enjoy himself.

Problem is Thedas has no place for someone who's only Half Qunari.

*Point at Talis.

[leaguer of one]

Uhm.... Qunari can have fun and let loose too.... It is not like Equilibrium where a state of complete emotionlessness must be maintained.

It's just that if they go to far they are excited or reeducated.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Sure they can have fun.

But I'm not sure they can have a nice day , be happy and decide "Well tonight I'm celebrating , gonna put my pants on my head , drink myself silly , run down the street naked and go find someone to play "ride the Bull"".

 

And with the kind of not really funny job he was doing back then (hunting rebels) , I assume in Seheron , he probably needed to blow a fuse .

And I'm not sure the Qun allows that .

No the Qunari certainly do not lose control like that. The equivalent of doing so for us, would be something like a "proud alcoholic". However the Qunari can after their days work is done, relax and have fun with the friends and collegues. They just maintain control, since the loss of control of one self is practically taboo for Qunari.

 

Just to be clear, I don't care if they get shitfaced. I'm a boring sober dude these days myself.

 

The issue is more complicated than that. They don't seem to evaluate individual actions or mix n match behaviors, or just go with the flow, make momentary decisions. It's all about conforming to a fundamental idea of existence. Their "true nature". To simply "be". Veer from it and you fail.

 

Which still wouldn't be a problem to me either, but they wish to ascribe an "existence" for everything else too. They're not content just doing it on their own. They want everyone else to conform too. They are busybodies and meddlers. But oppressive ones. Worse than any finger wagging grandma.

ALL ideologies are meddlers and imposers. The Qunari even though they ascribe to an idea of control of one's self and surroundings, does not mean that they are incapable of humor or having fun. I only have to bring up Sten which had an extremely dry sense of humor (which is also why much of what he says should be taken with a grain of salt).

 

It's just that if they go to far they are excited or reeducated.

Yes if they lose control too badly (or too often, we don't really know the criteria here) they will have to be reeducated. Obviously when the Qunari values control of one's self as much as they do, they cannot tolerate someone who routinely disrupts public order.

[KC_Prototype]

Someone in another thread made a good analogy to him. He's the christian that goes to church two times a year and doesn't care other wise. So I see him as just sending reports as to keep the Qunari off his back but he really is more Tal-Vashoth.

[The Night Haunter]

Someone in another thread made a good analogy to him. He's the christian that goes to church two times a year and doesn't care other wise. So I see him as just sending reports as to keep the Qunari off his back but he really is more Tal-Vashoth.

I think his character is far different from that. From his Bio it sounds like he ran around hunting Tal-Vashoth for quite a time, until he was assigned to be a spy as a Merc leader. He is still Qunari, but wavering in his belief, as he comes to enjoy his 'fake' life. He is more akin to a Commy spy in America deciding he might be better off as American, rather than a commy.