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[BloodyMares]

Still, if the Reapers created the MRs... is there a chance they migrated to another Galaxy and continued there rain of terror there, with a network of relays?

God no, save us from more of Reaper plot.

[Daemul]

If it is a new galaxy then I'm really looking forward to the cool stuff they can come up with, since they will no longer be restricted by anything that went on in the original trilogy. They can go full on crazy Star Wars level tech if they wanted to, planets with crazy life forms, anything really. 

 

If this is what Bioware is going for then I approve. 

 

EDIT:Agreed with the poster above, no more Reapers. 

[felipejiraya]

It's a concept image.

[Senior Cinco]

God no, save us from more of Reaper plot.

 

Oh! I couldn't agree more about the antagonist of another Reaper encounter. I'm trying to justify the potential of having Mass Relays in another Galaxy. Assuming they all came back here during the last battle in ME3 and now they're gone.

 

... all gone.

[Senior Cinco]

It's a concept image.

 

Yes it is... but an image of what?

[felipejiraya]

Yes it is... but an image of what?

 

Of something that probably won't be in the game.

[Senior Cinco]

Of something that probably won't be in the game.

 

LOL... I'd dare say you might be right. At least not fully developed. Maybe just an early stage of another galaxy.

 

Not exactly the answer to the question but still.

 

Do we use that same logic with the entire video? Seems like a bad PR move to show it in the first place.

[felipejiraya]

This can be anything, could be a new galaxy like are you are saying or could be a cluster in the Milky Way. Most probably is just a concept without any real implication with the final game.

 

I find it hard to believe the new game will be on another galaxy because of the species from the trilogy returning.

[Senior Cinco]

This can be anything, could be a new galaxy like are you are saying or could be a cluster in the Milky Way. 

 

That's true. The low res handrail that appears to be just the gray model with no texture supports the "concept" of the area. Maybe the galaxy image is just another filler to showcase the basic principle of how the map will be interacted with.

[Nitrocuban]

So let's just call the new game from now on "Mass Effect: Andromeda" okay?

[Senior Cinco]

I don't know what the Hell I was thinking earlier when I posted it would take 5-6 hundred years to get to Andromeda (M31) at FTL speeds. We couldn't get there at FTL speeds in less than 1.5 million years. The ONLY way we could do it within the reasonable future of the gamewrold timeline would be via a Mass Relay or some new found technology to warp the space-time fabric for great distances.

 

... nvmd. I've been up too long. I seemed to have forgotten about the noted 12 Ly per day thing. I remember calculating that a few days ago. It sux to get old and start suffering form short term mem loss. I figure I've got about another 5 good years left. this may be my last ME game.

 

Then again... it would be like playing it for the first time every week!

[Malanek]

3) If they allowed back and forth travel between galaxies, it would negate the entire point of starting over in a new galaxy, which is to avoid canonizing a ME3 ending.
 

I thought the rest of your post was good, it does look like another galaxy and I find it hard to believe it was an accident that it was shown to us. I would just like to comment on this though. We don't know what they are planning so we don't know the purpose of another galaxy. It could serve another important plot point. If they want to introduce other highly advanced, previously unknown, life, they need to provide a reason as to why those form were undetected by the Reapers. Moving into another galaxy, even if for only part of the story, gives this opportunity.

 

How would they do this and not break their own lore? It is hard to say. I was thinking of some type of different relay or wormhole because flying there seems unworkable. This type of relay would support the ark theory as well. Or they could do something similar to Star Trek Voyager and accidentally move into another galaxy (voyager was a dissonance wave and moved it to other side of Milky Way) via a black hole or something.

[Senior Cinco]

How would they do this and not break their own lore? It is hard to say. I was thinking of some type of different relay or wormhole because flying there seems unworkable. This type of relay would support the ark theory as well. Or they could do something similar to Star Trek Voyager and accidentally move into another galaxy (voyager was a dissonance wave and moved it to other side of Milky Way) via a black hole or something.

 

See... the Reapers were known to come form the middle of the Galaxy, right? They could have traversed through the black hole as it may be connected to another galaxy center. 

[Kabooooom]

I thought the rest of your post was good, it does look like another galaxy and I find it hard to believe it was an accident that it was shown to us. I would just like to comment on this though. We don't know what they are planning so we don't know the purpose of another galaxy. It could serve another important plot point. If they want to introduce other highly advanced, previously unknown, life, they need to provide a reason as to why those form were undetected by the Reapers. Moving into another galaxy, even if for only part of the story, gives this opportunity.

How would they do this and not break their own lore? It is hard to say. I was thinking of some type of different relay or wormhole because flying there seems unworkable. This type of relay would support the ark theory as well. Or they could do something similar to Star Trek Voyager and accidentally move into another galaxy (voyager was a dissonance wave and moved it to other side of Milky Way) via a black hole or something.

Good point, the only reason why I assumed that is because I can't think of a way that the setting could be in the milky way and have them avoid the ending fiasco - which they already alluded to doing.

[Kabooooom]

This can be anything, could be a new galaxy like are you are saying or could be a cluster in the Milky Way. Most probably is just a concept without any real implication with the final game.

I find it hard to believe the new game will be on another galaxy because of the species from the trilogy returning.

It's clearly not a cluster in a galaxy. Clusters don't look like that. It most closely resembles a spiral galaxy with arms that don't adhere to the classic logarithmic appearance and the apparent lack of a bar...just like Andromeda.

It could be a place holder, but they seemed to have shown it for a reason. They could have just shown the classic Milky Way galaxy map we are all familiar with and there would have been no speculation at all. But thats what they do - they provide clues to stimulate hype and speculation, so the fans talk about it. That was like the entire point of the trailer.

So, I suspect it is probably a subtle hint for the setting of the game.

[Drone223]

This can be anything, could be a new galaxy like are you are saying or could be a cluster in the Milky Way. Most probably is just a concept without any real implication with the final game.

 

I find it hard to believe the new game will be on another galaxy because of the species from the trilogy returning.

Yeah, if they decide to go with the new galaxy route they may as well start a a new franchise. I thinks its obvious that the setting won't be in a new galaxy.

[Kabooooom]

Yeah, if they decide to go with the new galaxy route they may as well start a a new franchise. I thinks its obvious that the setting won't be in a new galaxy.

Then why deliberately show us something which is a) clearly a galaxy, not a star cluster. b ) clearly not the Milky Way, it lacks a central bar and the logarithmic appearance of the spiral arms. And c) MOST reminiscent of an apparently unbarred spiral galaxy (in real life this is debated for Andromeda) with arms that don't have a classic logarithmic appearance...just like Andromeda? What would be the point of that? Just to troll us?

It's not the Milky Way, it's not a star cluster. I think it's obvious that it is a different galaxy. Is it Andromeda? It sure resembles Andromeda, but it could be another galaxy I suppose - although that would be even more dumb.

[felipejiraya]

Then why deliberately show us something which is a) clearly a galaxy, not a star cluster. b ) clearly not the Milky Way, it lacks a central bar and the logarithmic appearance of the spiral arms. And c) MOST reminiscent of an apparently unbarred spiral galaxy (in real life this is debated for Andromeda) with arms that don't have a classic logarithmic appearance...just like Andromeda? What would be the point of that? Just to troll us?

It's not the Milky Way, it's not a star cluster. I think it's obvious that it is a different galaxy. Is it Andromeda? It sure resembles Andromeda, but it could be another galaxy I suppose - although that would be even more dumb.

 

You're making a lot of assumptions from a concept image that won't be in the final game.

[Drone223]

You're making a lot of assumptions from a concept image that won't be in the final game.

Yeah they were clearly captioned as prototypes, the final product will be much different.

[Malanek]

Yeah they were clearly captioned as prototypes, the final product will be much different.

I think changing the word "will" to "may" would be better. Why go to the effort of conceptualising something that will definitely not be used? I understand that many things will change, but I don't understand why you would go to effort to create something that that is a direction you are not going in.

[Blad3Zer0]

It's interesting how nobody has specifically brought up the Citadel relay. We know that it leads to the region of empty space that the Reapers inhabited during their hibernation periods. What if there's something else within that space that leads to this other galaxy?

 

Furthermore, who's to say someone from a previous cycle didn't figure out how to work the Citadel relay to transit to dark space, shaving off a little time from that long voyage to another galaxy?

[Senior Cinco]

It's interesting how nobody has specifically brought up the Citadel relay. We know that it leads to the region of empty space that the Reapers inhabited during their hibernation periods. What if there's something else within that space that leads to this other galaxy?

 

Furthermore, who's to say someone from a previous cycle didn't figure out how to work the Citadel relay to transit to dark space, shaving off a little time from that long voyage to another galaxy?

 

I meant to touch on that very concept earlier. Those are all excellent points and the black hole in the center could lead to others. although, I feel better if the science at least adheres to what we know and build the fiction from that. Granted, we have never ventured to a black hole but it's mathematically and fundamentally known to be no escape until the black hole purges itself.

 

Now a worm hole or something could be built upon. Still, the Citadel could play a major role in traversing the dark space between galaxies. I've been watching too many Neil d Tyson vids lately and can remember just enough to sound stupid.

 

But I think it's important to try and remain somewhat within the reality of known science and that accuracy is part of making a good game into a great one. 

[durasteel]

I'm sorry, but the idea of diverting the Mass Effect series to a galaxy far far away is horrible. I won't pretend to know whether or not BioWare is doing that--they've made horrible decisions (catalyst) before--but it's really abysmal.

 

There are certain things that are definitive to the Mass Effect franchise, and among them are the mass relays, the races of the galaxy, and the Citadel. If you set a game in another galaxy with different races, different FTL tech, and no Citadel, you might as well just start a new IP from scratch. That game might be good, but it won't really be a Mass Effect game.

[Senior Cinco]

There are certain things that are definitive to the Mass Effect franchise, and among them are the mass relays, the races of the galaxy, and the Citadel. If you set a game in another galaxy with different races, different FTL tech, and no Citadel, you might as well just start a new IP from scratch. That game might be good, but it won't really be a Mass Effect game.

 

That just it. We're speculating another galaxy with with Mass Relays and another Citadel and the races we know have bunked up on ships and traversed there.

 

Advance the time frame a few hundred years to allow for colonization and go form that. Then we have new races to contend with as well.

[Blad3Zer0]

I meant to touch on that very concept earlier. Those are all excellent points and the black hole in the center could lead to others. although, I feel better if the science at least adheres to what we know and build the fiction from that. Granted, we have never ventured to a black hole but it's mathematically and fundamentally known to be no escape until the black hole purges itself.

 

Now a worm hole or something could be built upon. Still, the Citadel could play a major role in traversing the dark space between galaxies. I've been watching too many Neil d Tyson vids lately and can remember just enough to sound stupid.

 

But I think it's important to try and remain somewhat within the reality of known science and that accuracy is part of making a good game into a great one. 

 

Black hole? Where did this come from? Oh, I see.

See... the Reapers were known to come form the middle of the Galaxy, right? They could have traversed through the black hole as it may be connected to another galaxy center. 

 

Actually, they were known to come literally from beyond the galaxy's horizon. The Prothean VI, Vigil, mentions as much on Ilos, in ME1.

 

The last cinematic clip from ME2's suicide mission outcome also shows them approaching the Milky Way from outside.