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Turian Sentinel - what weapon to use for Gold solo?


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Unimpressed. The TSent + Arc pistol isn't rare. Show me a melee Salarian Engineer with a Hornet, and we can talk.


ok, I'll try it. but I might just have to wait until some conditions are met.

in the meantime, are there other builds you would want me to try?

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ok, I'll try it. but I might just have to wait until some conditions are met.

in the meantime, are there other builds you would want me to try?

 

Nah, that'll do for now.



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OP  - good effort on your solo. 

 

As for Barrage Upgrade - imo the Lancer is able to reliably land headshots w/ Turian passives and Barrage Upgrade is not needed, unless that is the player's preference. On non-Turian characters I find the stability mod allows for tons of headshots. You stated that the mag upgrade wasn't needed, so perhaps you could switch out mag upgrade for stability mod if accuracy is an issue (and you decide to try the Lancer again). You'd still have a clip of 42 shots on Lancer III, enough for *power*->*shots*->*power* without overheating too often - I have a heavy trigger finger, so I found that I overheated the Lancer often between power usage if I didn't have mag upgrade. 

 

If you're good with the Arc Pistol though the discussion may be irrelevant :) . I'm pretty sh*t awful with charged weapons, so my scrubby self needs something where I can just hold down the trigger haha. 

 

As for space ninjas / getting flanked, perhaps consider using Geth Scanner? I don't always use Geth Scanner for solos, but really the Turians are so strong that you don't necessarily need weapon/health-shield/power boosting equipment in your Gear slot. 

 

Anyway, best of luck on your next attempt :) 



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OP  - good effort on your solo. 

 

As for Barrage Upgrade - imo the Lancer is able to reliably land headshots w/ Turian passives and Barrage Upgrade is not needed, unless that is the player's preference. On non-Turian characters I find the stability mod allows for tons of headshots. You stated that the mag upgrade wasn't needed, so perhaps you could switch out mag upgrade for stability mod if accuracy is an issue (and you decide to try the Lancer again). You'd still have a clip of 42 shots on Lancer III, enough for *power*->*shots*->*power* without overheating too often - I have a heavy trigger finger, so I found that I overheated the Lancer often between power usage if I didn't have mag upgrade. 

 

If you're good with the Arc Pistol though the discussion may be irrelevant :) . I'm pretty sh*t awful with charged weapons, so my scrubby self needs something where I can just hold down the trigger haha. 

 

As for space ninjas / getting flanked, perhaps consider using Geth Scanner? I don't always use Geth Scanner for solos, but really the Turians are so strong that you don't necessarily need weapon/health-shield/power boosting equipment in your Gear slot. 

 

Anyway, best of luck on your next attempt :)

 

Even though this is a good post I still want to put it down because Butters. :P



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Even though this is a good post I still want to put it down because Butters. :P

 

Hahaha nothing wrong with that

 

Edit: I should have said: "Golly mister/missus, I sure hate that you don't like my avatar!" 


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Even though this is a good post I still want to put it down because Butters. :P


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me0W!

 

I've been contemplating changing my name. :P



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OP  - good effort on your solo. 

 

As for Barrage Upgrade - imo the Lancer is able to reliably land headshots w/ Turian passives and Barrage Upgrade is not needed, unless that is the player's preference. On non-Turian characters I find the stability mod allows for tons of headshots. You stated that the mag upgrade wasn't needed, so perhaps you could switch out mag upgrade for stability mod if accuracy is an issue (and you decide to try the Lancer again). You'd still have a clip of 42 shots on Lancer III [...] 

 

If you're good with the Arc Pistol though the discussion may be irrelevant [...]

 

As for space ninjas / getting flanked, perhaps consider using Geth Scanner? I don't always use Geth Scanner for solos, but really the Turians are so strong that you don't necessarily need weapon/health-shield/power boosting equipment in your Gear slot.

 

Thanks for the kind words and the advice.

 

When I said the additional capacity didn't do anything, I meant the +15% Thermal Clip Capacity from Barrage Upgrade V. Lancer III with Magazine Upgrade V (weapon mod): 76 bullets in magazine. Adding Barrage Upgrade V (gear): still 76 bullets in magazine.

 

Geth Scanner is interesting gear. It improves your situational awareness, but on XBOX with the limited field of view (FOV) -- and no way to modify FOV -- you're still at the mercy of whatever you can see. Sure, Geth Scanner lets you see through walls, but it doesn't make you any more aware of what's outside your FOV, such as behind you.

 

In the case of this solo attempt I was killed by a Praetorian that snuck up behind me. Well, arguably I knew it was there and should have run away long before it got close to me, but in any event, Geth Scanner wouldn't have told me anything I didn't already know.

 

If I go for a build with wallhax, like the Arc Pistol build, then certainly Geth Scanner is useful, maybe even necessary. (Also if I go for that build, I'm choosing a small map like Glacier.) But like you, wufpup76, I'm not particularly good with charged weapons in general. To get good with them would require some practice.

 

So before I go the Arc Pistol route, I might try this same solo attempt again with a few tweaks, like putting that 6th rank into Overload, choosing better Gear, and maybe using the Harrier instead of the Lancer. Those tweaks won't fundamentally change the nature of how I play so whatever I learned from this attempt (which was basically, "don't stay in one spot after it's compromised", which I should have already known) can carry over into my next attempt.

 

P.S. I have solo'd Gold before, just not with this character or against Collectors.



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I've been contemplating changing my name. :P


me too! :whistle:

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"When I said the additional capacity didn't do anything, I meant the +15% Thermal Clip Capacity from Barrage Upgrade V. Lancer III with Magazine Upgrade V (weapon mod): 76 bullets in magazine. Adding Barrage Upgrade V (gear): still 76 bullets in magazine."

 

^Gotcha - sorry, I took what you stated out of context.



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Yes but I am trying to come up with ideas why you didn't kill her every time doing that.

 

So clearly sometimes the damage applied was greater than other times.  If it was from the fps problem with the Reegar it would mean the fps is volatile enough to make a substantial difference in the damage.  How much does it change on xbox?

 

If you are really going with the 1.4x damage from headshots, maybe you just are landing less pellets on her from aiming at her head.

 

No idea really. I think it's just that I'm not used to the Reegar so I'm missing some of the "pellets" when I shot her. It is hard sometimes to shoot her with a full clip while she's teleporting.



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"I did take Warp 4a Damage rather than the usual 4b Detonate, on the theory that I wouldn't be detonating that many explosions with Warp"

 

Just FYI, Warp 4b only affects biotic explosions, not tech explosions.  It's pointless on a solo with the Turian Sentinel, who only has one biotic power.  It's the far superior option on team games with other biotics though.

 

Has anyone ever tested that? It says combo detonations and not biotic detonations like Throw, Pull and Shockwave?



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Has anyone ever tested that? It says combo detonations and not biotic detonations like Throw, Pull and Shockwave?

 

Tested by Peddro and co eons ago, it only affects BEs.


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Tested by Peddro and co eons ago, it only affects BEs.

 

Then the description is bad and someone should feel bad!


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Then the description is bad and someone should feel bad!

 

At least it won't be lonely in the club of descriptions that are misleading.


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I've been contemplating changing my name. :P

me too! :whistle:

 

Me three. :P
 
It'd be funny if we all ended up meeting in a pug with our new names and no-one was recognised by anyone else. :lol:


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I think if we're talking max efficiency/easiest setup, probably Hurricane/Acolyte combo is the answer (it would probably be the answer 99% of the time). I like A LOT of different weapons on the kit so way too many to decide for me personally.  

 

*EDIT:Had a nice "snarky" post here...but after reading thread found it unecessary...*

 

Slap a Harrier on him and enjoy what will probably be a much easier solo than otherwise I guess..



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Then the description is bad and someone should feel bad!

 

That... Shouldn't be a surprise, now should it? :lol:

 

I mean Bioware is the company that was able to let people think that a certain consumable gives an aimbot... Just using its description :lol:


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Slap a Harrier on him and enjoy what will probably be a much easier solo than otherwise I guess..

 

I did 6 waves of a Gold duo with the same setup as before, but using the Harrier III instead of the Lancer III.

 

And you know what? I found the slower power use due to the heavier Harrier to put me off my game. Yes, the Harrier kills faster than the Lancer (I guess... it didn't feel that much faster to me...), but constantly running to ammo boxes coupled with that extra second or so of waiting for power recharge made it not worth it to me.

 

So I think I will try this solo again using the Lancer, but try not to make stupid mistakes.

 

And then I might go back and to the Arc Pistol build because I need to teach myself to use that gun.



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I did 6 waves of a Gold duo with the same setup as before, but using the Harrier III instead of the Lancer III.

 

And you know what? I found the slower power use due to the heavier Harrier to put me off my game. Yes, the Harrier kills faster than the Lancer (I guess... it didn't feel that much faster to me...), but constantly running to ammo boxes coupled with that extra second or so of waiting for power recharge made it not worth it to me.

 

So I think I will try this solo again using the Lancer, but try not to make stupid mistakes.

 

And then I might go back and to the Arc Pistol build because I need to teach myself to use that gun.

 

Sounds like you know your style and preferences, OP. I look forward to you posting a successful Gold Solo completion with the weapon that suits you :) *thinks your success will come SOONER than later :)*


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I did 6 waves of a Gold duo with the same setup as before, but using the Harrier III instead of the Lancer III.

 

And you know what? I found the slower power use due to the heavier Harrier to put me off my game. Yes, the Harrier kills faster than the Lancer (I guess... it didn't feel that much faster to me...), but constantly running to ammo boxes coupled with that extra second or so of waiting for power recharge made it not worth it to me.

 

So I think I will try this solo again using the Lancer, but try not to make stupid mistakes.

 

And then I might go back and to the Arc Pistol build because I need to teach myself to use that gun.

 

Your Harrier III weighs 1.64 vs 1.4 for an X.  I used the noob combo (Battle Rifle and Plasma Pistol, err Harrier and Acolyte) for the first Turian Sentinel platinum solo.  The power use is not very bad, and in reality the Turian Sentinel isn't going to get a lot of mileage out of pure power spam since he has a shield stripper and debuff power.  If you were in a team game you could combo all day with a friend, but that isn't really how he works in a solo.

 

Arc pistol is the best weapon you have at X, but I don't think you need to necessarily go that far.  Harrier or Lancer would work.  I would switch up the build though, I would go straight weapon damage in passive, and drop Power Synergy in Tech Armor for a 4/6/6/6/4 build.  Mo shields, mo damage, mo better.  Or go 3 TA, 5 Fitness.  Either way it makes more sense to get the extra shield multiplier from Overload than trying to use a couple additive bonuses from TA or passive.  Also the extra headshot bonus can come in handy with various guns in a gold solo, especially an ammo limited gun like the Harrier.  If you don't want to respec after the solo, choose Detonate for the 4th rank of Warp.

 

With your manifest I would gravitate towards the Rare tier.  Claymore, Arc Pistol, Graal, GPS, or even Raider if you want to get up close.  Mattock in uncommon for honorable mention.  I would wait on Lancer since level III doesn't have good ammo capacity.



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Bump for great justice because I hate when someone posts a thread like this and then you never hear from him again.

 

I tried the solo again, with basically the same setup (both powers, Lancer, Incendiary Ammo). Got closer, but unfortunately died on Wave 10.

 

Spoiler

 

I might come back and attempt this solo again, but for now I've promoted Sentinels and moved on.



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^You'll get it. And when you do you can say "And I didn't have to resort to the Harrier TGI or a Reegar Kroguard."

 

On a side note, I just outscored Caineghis using the Lancer Tsent...

 

 

 

 

 

...Okay, Cain was using the Predator. But I'm still counting it!



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^You'll get it. And when you do you can say "And I didn't have to resort to the Harrier TGI or a Reegar Kroguard."

 

On a side note, I just outscored Caineghis using the Lancer Tsent...

 

 

 

 

 

...Okay, Cain was using the Predator. But I'm still counting it!

 

And why wouldn't you be? Predator has higher sustained DPS than Lancer... B)



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And why wouldn't you be? Predator has higher sustained DPS than Lancer... B)

 

Hax! (mouse hax)