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Then let's get rid of romances altogether. That way they can be 100% their own characters.
So basically, if I can't have it my way then let's not have it at all?
I'm not trying to be a douche, you know I like you, I don't mean to come off harsh like that
Then let's get rid of romances altogether. That way they can be 100% their own characters.
Good point!
Be thankful we're getting romances at all.
Honestly if my companions are judging my PC for what members of his/her race did...why would I want them around anyway?
So yeah I kind of get the I'll just tell them to gtfo mindset. It's one thing if they're not attracted to my PC's race. I may not like it but I can perfectly understand it but if they're all "humans suck and you're human so you suck too!" uh...well **** you too then.
Maybe we'll put up the chart (yes, there's actually a chart) at some point, and having said information will make you feel better before you play the game, but that's not really my decision.
Probably in the minority here, but I don't know how good an idea that is. Chances are you're going to confirm ~someone's~ fears and with this huge an audience, it will probably be more than a few. Plus, personally, I'd rather find out about the romance options as I play.
Maybe that's just me? I just feel like I have less room to be disappointed if I'm simply invested in teh characters as they are, rather than meta-game the romance just because I know it's possible, and now I simply must have it.
So basically, if I can't have it my way then let's not have it at all?
I'm not trying to be a douche, you know I like you, I don't mean to come off harsh like that
No, that's not what I mean.
You all are arguing how these characters should be their own characters rather than purely targets of affection for player characters, so the best way to day that is to have none of them available at all.
Then let's get rid of romances altogether. That way they can be 100% their own characters.
That makes no sense...
When you have to do it for eight possible body types? Yes, actually.
As I mentioned before, Allan Schumaker (I think that's his last name? I'm sorry if I got it wrong!) made a really good post explaining it somewhere around here...
This one?
The bottleneck for creating characters is less writing, and more cin design.
DA2 had 2 player models and 4 love interests, meaning custom cinematic scenes (required if you have intimate touching) required 8 scenes (assuming you only need one).
DAI has 8 player models. If we have at least 4 love interests (I suspect our minimum), that takes 32 scenes (assuming we only need one).
Alternatively, if we were to have no bisexual characters, we could use 4 (one gender, 4 races) per pairing, and we could have 8 love interests in the game with not tooooooo much extra work required by cinematics (writing would need more, but if it is determined that they have the capacity and cin design does not, then it's not a net drain on the overall timeline).
Now lets say we have those 8 love interests, and we mandate that in order to be fair they must be bisexual. Now we have 64 scenes to make. Lets assume a scene takes a cindesigner one day to make. We just added a full man month of work to the cindesigners. John Epler would be very, very sad
Then let's get rid of romances altogether. That way they can be 100% their own characters.
I would actually like to see a Bioware game without romances tbh with a different system instead
But saying they should get rid of romances because of restrictions sounds like a bad way to go about it
No, that's not what I mean.
You all are arguing how these characters should be their own characters rather than purely targets of affection for player characters, so the best way to day that is to have none of them available at all.
No, the best way to do that is have them available based on who their character is.
No, that's not what I mean.
You all are arguing how these characters should be their own characters rather than purely targets of affection for player characters, so the best way to day that is to have none of them available at all.
No, I'm not arguing that.
Take Varric for example, he said he wasn't into humans but Dwarven women. What's the big deal? Is he not allowed his own preferences? Is it that vital that we have the option to have sex with whomever we want and they just have to oblige because we're the Inquisitor and we want them?
No, that's not what I mean.
You all are arguing how these characters should be their own characters rather than purely targets of affection for player characters, so the best way to day that is to have none of them available at all.
They can be their own character, with their mindsets on how they live their lives and still fall for a PC, but the important thing is - it shouldn't be 100% determined by the PC if the "x" character is able to fall for you, since that "x" has their own needs.
I would actually like to see a Bioware game without romances tbh with a different system instead
But saying they should get rid of romances because of restrictions sounds like a bad way to go about it
Honestly I always wanted a character centric BW game with no romance because either the PC was already taken or recently widowed. That way we could get the beautiful character development BW has but not have to worry about romance content taking some away. As long as the friendship content and story content is solid I have no issue with no romances.
Edit: Also I really rather people like Varric with clear preferences for dwarven women be companions who get their own LIs outside the player. 4 bi LIs and companions with various preferences outside of that hook up with people tat are not the PC. I much rather that than having 7 or 8 Lis that will date various versions of the Inquisitor.
No, the best way to do that is have them available based on who their character is.
But having them be open-minded individuals who don't care what race you are but the person inside is going too far?
You all are arguing how these characters should be their own characters rather than purely targets of affection for player characters, so the best way to day that is to have none of them available at all.
Nah, what folks are saying is that characters should be their own characters and have their own preferences in who they'll love instead of the player's preferences taking complete control.
No game will never fully please anyone. Just accept it and deal with it. Take it for what it is or gtfo. Simple.
Honestly if my companions are judging my PC for what members of his/her race did...why would I want them around anyway?
So yeah I kind of get the I'll just tell them to gtfo mindset. It's one thing if they're not attracted to my PC's race. I may not like it but I can perfectly understand it but if they're all "humans suck and you're human so you suck too!" uh...well **** you too then.
And that's completely fair.
They locked the romance thread.
The people who got it locked immediately run to another thread and start in with the same discussion.
Awesome.
Is that what happened?
Dang it.
Maria, make funnies.
I like when you make funnies.
Maria pls
That's my problem, PC shouldn't determine the romance. If the PC happens to also fall under the individual's "categories" of what they want as a "LI" as well, then all best for that becoming an option, but the companions should be able to express their needs and show disinterest as much as the PC can.
Everyone who likes Romances are scum and should burn in the fiery pits
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Thus why we shouldn't want more restrictions.
If everyone wants to play what they want how they want, how in the world is putting as many blocks in that as possible a good idea?
"Everyone" is a bit of a stretch so... yeah.
But having them be open-minded individuals who don't care what race you are but the person inside is going too far?
How well has that worked on Earth so far? We've made progress, but even with more time, we're pretty damn behind. And, in this situation, some racial bias makes sense- never okay, but I can understand it.
But having them be open-minded individuals who don't care what race you are but the person inside is going too far?
But no one is saying that would be going too far, they're saying that there's basically nothing wrong with characters having their own preference
And that's completely fair.
I thought so 
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