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#1551
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I'm most likely gonna have a female Inquisitor anyway, for two reasons

 

1. As a dude, I wanna show that we need more strong female characters in games(women have the right to play characters they can relate to after all, and I as a man have no problem doing that in every other game out there), thus the more I play them the higher the statistics show devs and pubs that gaming needs them

 

2. I feel bad that in awesome as hell Origins I carried over a male Warden but FemHawke was a mega fail so I want to have a heroic lady in this series

 

We'll see how that goes.


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#1552
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I agree with this. I think alot of people just want everything handed to them. Thats not how games workI

it's funny that players want realisum but want non of the work that comes with it



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But I have already seen a few guys who are upset that Sara is gay, so apparently not, lol

 

Well, bi women would still be available to them. If they don't like bi people, then I don't really wanna help 'em /bitter bi person



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Brian ofthe Dialogue Wheel

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Haha, very true.  :lol:  :D  :P  :lol:

You know the implied Romances in ME3? What if this is like that- if you don't romance Scribbles, she dates Sketch. I can't romance one of the ME ladies any more because I feel bad about blocking a friend. Messed. Up.



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You know the implied Romances in ME3? What if this is like that- if you don't romance Scribbles, she dates Sketch. I can't romance one of the ME ladies any more because I feel bad about blocking a friend. Messed. Up.

That would be cool.

 

When it comes to ME, I have no such computations.  Still, watching Tali and Garrus, as well as EDI and Joker, start their relationships was very cute.



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That would be cool.

 

When it comes to ME, I have no such computations.  Still, watching Tali and Garrus, as well as EDI and Joker, start their relationships was very cute.

That's the romance I meant; Garrus and Tali are the best- knowing what happens to Shepard, it just felt. . . cleaner to me, I don't know.



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I hated Joker/EDI. If they are going to hook up, I'd prefer they do it themselves. I hate to be the deciding factor. But you can't escape the dialogue.



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Well, bi women would still be available to them. If they don't like bi people, then I don't really wanna help 'em /bitter bi person

 

Yeah, but they already had their hopes set on Sera. Honestly we still have quite a few companions left to be revealed, I wouldn't let your hearts break just yet. At this point I'm kind of exhausted speculating anyway. I would like Cassandra to be an option for women but if she's not then I'm sure I'll enjoy someone else available to my character. And as another /bitter bi person, I totally get it, lol.



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I hated Joker/EDI. If they are going to hook up, I'd prefer do it themselves. I hate to be the deciding factor.

I enjoyed it, but I can definitely see why some of the player didn't enjoy playing match maker with EDI and Joker.   Besides, I didn't know they would hook up in ME3 (nor did I know about EDI getting a sexy robo body, that was kinda a shock) but I started shipping them back in ME2.  It seemed inevitable with or without Shepard's permission.


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I enjoyed it, but I can definitely see why some of the player didn't enjoy playing match maker with EDI and Joker.   Besides, I didn't know they would hook up in ME3 (nor did I know about EDI getting a sexy robo body, that was kinda a shock) but I started shipping them back in ME2.  It seemed inevitable with or without Shepard's permission.

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I enjoyed it, but I can definitely see why some of the player didn't enjoy playing match maker with EDI and Joker.   Besides, I didn't know they would hook up in ME3 (nor did I know about EDI getting a sexy robo body, that was kinda a shock) but I started shipping them back in ME2.  It seemed inevitable with or without Shepard's permission.

 

I know why they put it in my hands, I guess... it's bigger than EDI/Joker. It's for me to air out opinions on organics/synthetics.

 

It's a lot of responsibility.

 

lol.. I guess being ME3 Shepard in general is too much responsibility for that matter. I have to weigh in on a lot of things.

 

I just wanted to be a dirty space cop.



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Dragon Age, folks.



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Havent had a good look at the female qunari in game till just recently.

 

I know there isnt a chance of this in hell, but Holy Diver i hope there is a (unrestricted by race and straight/bisexual) qunari lady to romance.



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Grieving Natashina

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Dragon Age, folks.

Tying it back to Dragon Age, I'd love (as per your example) to see Scribbles hook up with someone like Sketch if they aren't romanced by the player.  Or the player companions too; if they find someone they like in the party and I'm not romancing them, I'd love to see it.  I just think it would be for the best if there isn't a matchmaker quest for it.  :)



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That's why I specified player vs character choice. They're restricting the types of characters players can come up with, not what those characters have to do. Which is odd.

To me, it's story consequences on a roleplaying choice, because when you create a character, you have some idea of the world you're creating it for, and then story consequences play out according to who you are and what you do in that role you chose. Like when I chose a fem City Elf in Origins for my first playthrough, I knew I was choosing to play a character the world was prejudiced against whose wedding was going to get crashed. I didn't know how bad it would get. Then when she and Alistair committed, I chose to encourage Alistair and oust Anora, not because I thought he'd be a better king, but because I trusted him to make Caelia (named before I knew about Cailin lol) queen and support the elves ascendance to equality and justice. But he betrayed her. And she stayed at court anyway, because somebody had to look out for the elves. Later in DA:A, she stayed to rule Amarinthine, again, because she needed personal power and status to support her people. Because she didn't trust Alistair.

 

So all of that stemmed directly from that first role playing choice in CC. It's none of it what I intended, but it's my favorite warden because of it (along with my mage that left with Morrigan). I see other characters' prejudices and darker proclivities as essential to the best DA storytelling, and it greatly played into all my wardens' stories. It contributed to the entire setting feeling more real and unpredictable.

 

Then as you become more familiar with the characters and plot, that's where meta choices factor into it, but those are still roleplaying choices. You're choosing a role and playing it out. By contrast in DA2, I practically never made an important roleplaying choice that wasn't completely meta, because the game treated every character practically the same and the largest choices as completely arbitrary. There was no role but what I decided in my head apart from the background, but the important choice there was strictly meta. I choose a class to unlock a sibling. I didn't enjoy that. Playing a role the game truly supports is a lot more engrossing. Being confronted with the other main characters' biases, including romantic, supports that. When I'm in the game, it's not about inclusion anymore. It's all about roleplay and narrative.

 

edit: typos etc.

 

edit 2: Also so nobody misunderstands, hopefully the selection is fully inclusive with options for everybody, but fantasy race restrictions are good for a few reasons. 1. More romantic relationship variety, since it cuts down on repeat scenarios like DA2's 2. better characterization, more storytelling oppurtunities and depth 3. supports stronger roleplay 4. supports immersion, a more consistent world, reflects more than the real world, less in game meta distraction

 

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By "particular group" I mean "in real life."

 

Worrying about the distribution between male and female players, and one of them feeling like content geared at them was an afterthought, I am fine with. Worrying about a distribution amongst sexualities, and making it so that gay or bisexual players don't feel they won't have choices, I am also fine with. Worrying about "players who like playing dwarves" or "players who like playing humans" or whatever other races, that I'm not as concerned about. Which is why I'm saying you will have options, but you may not have the same number of options depending on what race you select.

 

It's fine if someone doesn't like that idea. Some folks, we're quite aware, aren't happy that romances are being gated at all and would prefer to have all romances available to all PC's. I would suggest not panicking just yet, as not all romances are even race-gated and the options have not all suddenly dried up as someone might fear, but I suppose until and unless they learn otherwise they can justifiably choose to be pessimistic. Maybe we'll put up the chart (yes, there's actually a chart) at some point, and having said information will make you feel better before you play the game, but that's not really my decision.

 

David Gaider replied to me more than ten pages ago and I missed it because I was asleep. *facepalm*

 

Anyway, on the off-chance that you come back to this thread: thank you for clarifying. I will fly to Edmonton, break into your studio and steal your chart go back to banging my head gently on this desk to distract myself until such time as we have more information.



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David Gaider replied to me more than ten pages ago and I missed it because I was asleep. *facepalm*

 

Anyway, on the off-chance that you come back to this thread: thank you for clarifying. I will fly to Edmonton, break into your studio and steal your chart go back to banging my head gently on this desk to distract myself until such time as we have more information.

Don't worry, even if we never see The One True Chart, it's contents will be knowable to us at release (if not before) via guide/wiki/google/Ouija board/etc.

 

Glad to see things have ... calmed... since I went to bed, would not want to see this thread locked, too.



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That's why I like Gaider.

 

You want romance? Work for it damnit, people don't just throw themselves at you just because you're pretty pixels!

I have to disagree. There is working for it or there is having no possible romance at all. I am of the believe the restriction is not due to race but mainly due character model differences in that it is more difficult to create a romance scene with a dwarf and non-dwarves. I would be seriously unhappy if there is not at least one romance option available for every sexuality. I already dislike how racial traits in other games limit your choice and I really wouldn't want to see my preferred race, the dwarf to get dealt with the short hand of the stick. I don't want any specific character to be my romance either, I just want to have at least an option over having to play to a completely different race I am not interested in. And that is why I find Gaider's comment so devastating. I am okay with gender restrictions, not with race restrictions.



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I don't know if I'll even WANT to romance anyone in this game. None of these new characters look very attractive. And I only wanted to romance human characters in the previous games (Morrigan, Leliana, and Isabela).

 

Not interested in Sera or Vivienne. Is Cassandra the only other new female added? Seems like a weak companion cast IMO!



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I don't know if I'll even WANT to romance anyone in this game. None of these new characters look very attractive. And I only wanted to romance human characters in the previous games (Morrigan, Leliana, and Isabela).
 
Not interested in Sera or Vivienne. Is Cassandra the only other new female added? Seems like a weak companion cast IMO!

Companion, yes. There's another woman as an advisor, which seems likely to be a romance.

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Weak because you don't find them attractive?  That's not very fair :P



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I don't know if I'll even WANT to romance anyone in this game. None of these new characters look very attractive. And I only wanted to romance human characters in the previous games (Morrigan, Leliana, and Isabela).

 

Not interested in Sera or Vivienne. Is Cassandra the only other new female added? Seems like a weak companion cast IMO!

1. Vivi is human.... She's also a very pretty human. So if your saying what I think your saying you seem to be a big Hypocrite.

2. Sera is in to chicks if you dig.



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It's fine if someone doesn't like that idea. Some folks, we're quite aware, aren't happy that romances are being gated at all and would prefer to have all romances available to all PC's. I would suggest not panicking just yet, as not all romances are even race-gated and the options have not all suddenly dried up as someone might fear, but I suppose until and unless they learn otherwise they can justifiably choose to be pessimistic. Maybe we'll put up the chart (yes, there's actually a chart) at some point, and having said information will make you feel better before you play the game, but that's not really my decision.

 

But...but...forget about being Human or Dwarf or whatever. Can I play as a crossbow so I can romance Varric?


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But...but...forget about being Human or Dwarf or whatever. Can I play as a crossbow so I can romance Varric?

I said this very same thing a few weeks ago lol.


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1. Vivi is human.... She's also a very pretty human. So if your saying what I think your saying you seem to be a big Hypocrite.

2. Sera is in to chicks if you dig.

 

The only way I'd touch Viv is if they made her a tsundere.