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Bianca and Bianca are having none of this Varric-romance thing the forum wants

 

I've actually wondered about this. Like, when was Bianca conceptualized? Because Gaider said that they'd thought about having a reveal at the very end of DA2, where Hawke and Varric reunited and we discover they'd been together the whole time. ("Everything?" "Don’t worry. I skipped the part about us…") I wonder if Bianca, as a character, was conceived before this was scrapped, or after.


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i like the idea of restrictions.  And I liked DG comment.  

 

I'd rather they be based on personality, but any restriction is better than a Fable II type game where you can romance any character you meet whether they are male or female, (and I happen to enjoy  the game, just not their idea of romances).  

 

i'd much rather have Bioware's more complex characters with a story of their own and preferences of their own.  I hadn't planed on playing a Qunari or a Dwarf, they just don't interest me, but if there is a character that can only be romanced by a Qunari or a Dwarf and it's an interesting character I'll play one.   I'm also hoping you don't have to romance characters to get to know them.  A friendship path would be great.  

 

I don't care for playing a guy, got tired of that after over 30 years of no other options, which is why even when i get mad at them I'll continue buying their games, (especially if DG is involved), but I did play a guy in ME and in DA:O and they were interesting.  

 

As long as they have some choices, and the 1/2/1 or sets of 1 m&f straight; 1/m&f samesex; 1 m&f bi or player sexual - that is a good option.  Even if they had all of the LI available to anyone, there would be people complaining that the one they want isn't an option.  It a no win situation.    

 

After I play the game I will start my complaints for how the characters are portrayed, did Varric have a personality adjustment, or what i have to do to survive (referring to the DR which made me watch My LI have sex with someone else  :angry: )  

 

I don't know most about these characters yet and won't until I play the game more than once.  I may find out Vivienne, who I think looks a bit snooty, has a great sense of humor beneath that mask they wear in Orlais.  I may end up not liking any of my choices, but I'm very glad we have some choices with, hopefully, good stories instead of too many choices without content.  


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ME2 basically ends with murdering a rape-baby on basis of being an inherently evil being and future mass-murderer (even though it hasn't actually done anything yet), so I'm sure  Bioware could manage a justification.

 

Maybe it's a demonic orphanage. For blood mages.

What mission was this?

 

Never mind.  Apparently it was a joke sort of like the ones Sheldon tries on the big bang.   :)



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i like the idea of restrictions.  And I liked DG comment.  

 

I'd rather they be based on personality, but any restriction is better than a Fable II type game where you can romance any character you meet whether they are male or female, (and I happen to enjoy  the game, just not their idea of romances).  

 

i'd much rather have Bioware's more complex characters with a story of their own and preferences of their own.  I hadn't planed on playing a Qunari or a Dwarf, they just don't interest me, but if there is a character that can only be romanced by a Qunari or a Dwarf and it's an interesting character I'll play one.   I'm also hoping you don't have to romance characters to get to know them.  A friendship path would be great.  

 

I don't care for playing a guy, got tired of that after over 30 years of no other options, which is why even when i get mad at them I'll continue buying their games, (especially if DG is involved), but I did play a guy in ME and in DA:O and they were interesting.  

 

As long as they have some choices, and the 1/2/1 or sets of 1 m&f straight; 1/m&f samesex; 1 m&f bi or player sexual - that is a good option.  Even if they had all of the LI available to anyone, there would be people complaining that the one they want isn't an option.  It a no win situation.    

 

After I play the game I will start my complaints for how the characters are portrayed, did Varric have a personality adjustment, or what i have to do to survive (referring to the DR which made me watch My LI have sex with someone else  :angry: )  

 

I don't know most about these characters yet and won't until I play the game more than once.  I may find out Vivienne, who I think looks a bit snooty, has a great sense of humor beneath that mask they wear in Orlais.  I may end up not liking any of my choices, but I'm very glad we have some choices with, hopefully, good stories instead of too many choices without content.  

 

 

To be fair to Fable II(loved that game), it doesn't take itself seriously. On purpose. Its supposed to be ridiculous, hahaha. Bioware takes itself seriously enough though.


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More importantly, will these romances involve sex and nudity? Or will they be more prudent then any previous Bioware game before?



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More importantly, will these romances involve sex and nudity? Or will they be more prudent then any previous Bioware game before?

 

I don't know about that, hahaha



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5. They were joking.

 

Well, I was going to string it on a bit about how the Human Reaper had no choice in how it was conceived, but now you ruined it.

 

But more seriously, I think the ME team totally dropped the ball on that- not only on missing the implications and ethical issues with it (which aren't raised at all), but missing a great opportunity.

 

Imagine, if you will, that the Human Reaper fetus-thing wasn't already programmed/indoctrinated/assumed to be an omnicidal maniac.

 

Think of what could have changed had the delimma been not whether to keep or destroy the base, but whether to destroy the Baby Reaper or spare it and let Cerberus try to raise it for understanding and science and simply to avoid killing a lifeform that was innocent of the crimes of its own creation?



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Please keep it on topic Dean, there's a Mass section for that.



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Well, I was going to string it on a bit about how the Human Reaper had no choice in how it was conceived, but now you ruined it.

 

But more seriously, I think the ME team totally dropped the ball on that- not only on missing the implications and ethical issues with it (which aren't raised at all), but missing a great opportunity.

 

Imagine, if you will, that the Human Reaper fetus-thing wasn't already programmed/indoctrinated/assumed to be an omnicidal maniac.

 

Think of what could have changed had the delimma been not whether to keep or destroy the base, but whether to destroy the Baby Reaper or spare it and let Cerberus try to raise it for understanding and science and simply to avoid killing a lifeform that was innocent of the crimes of its own creation?

It does try and kill you as soon as it gains consciousness



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I'm sure I saw it confirmed by someone somewhere that there will be nudity...but not gratiitous, it will be very tasteful, carefully placed camera angles and shadows etc, where the hell did I see that? *grumble*...I don't expect even nipples. I'm thinking more...ME? And by ME I mean ME1..

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If there is a chart of what each LI will accept (regarding gender/race), I hope we see it before the game is released. It would definitely save me some confusion.



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It does try and kill you as soon as it gains consciousness

 

After you try to kill it, you mean?

 

Babies don't have a right to self-defense apparently.

 

 

 

...which is pretty much how something seemingly sacrosant could become a topic for a moral choice in a Bioware game. Just insert some antagonist to make the player feel like the defense party, and pretty much anything is allowed.



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I'm sure I saw it confirmed by someone somewhere that there will be nudity...but not gratiitous, it will be very tasteful, carefully placed camera angles and shadows etc, where the hell did I see that? *grumble*...I don't expect even nipples. I'm thinking more...ME? And by ME I mean ME1..

 

Well, can't complain much then. Since we probably can't expect much more then that from Bioware.

I hope there will ever come a day though that bioware gets over their fear from nipples. Maybe the next step would be to use some blood to put over them, they don't appear to be afraid to use loads of that.



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This is just too awesome for me to handle right now.

Yes, all the little furry awesomes, no, you can't have them.



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Well, can't complain much then. Since we probably can't expect much more then that from Bioware.

I hope there will ever come a day though that bioware gets over their fear from nipples. Maybe the next step would be to use some blood to put over them, they don't appear to be afraid to use loads of that.

BioWare doesn't have a fear of nipples. It has a fear of angry EA marketing people who will probably yell at them if their games get bad press, even if that bad press isn't justified. Remember the infamous Fox News showdown over the ME1 sex scene? In the realm of public opinion, Fox News scored a knockout over BioWare in the first round. It wasn't even an entertaining fight.

 

So why would BioWare subject itself to that kind of grief? To appease people on the internet who are salivating over digital nipples? This doesn't seem like a sound business decision, no offense to you intended.


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Just so you know

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I wouldn't have mattered for Cailan, and it wouldn't have mattered to me. I'm sure we'd have an interesting enough "relationship" and if I get to be emporer, I could find other things to occupy my time.



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BioWare doesn't have a fear of nipples. It has a fear of angry EA marketing people who will probably yell at them if their games get bad press, even if that bad press isn't justified. Remember the infamous Fox News showdown over the ME1 sex scene? In the realm of public opinion, Fox News scored a knockout over BioWare in the first round. It wasn't even an entertaining fight.

 

So why would BioWare subject itself to that kind of grief? To appease people on the internet who are salivating over digital nipples? This doesn't seem like a sound business decision, no offense to you intended.

Jack Thompson isn't really a thing anymore, though- the whole "Sexbox" scandal was largely influenced by him.



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I'm sure I saw it confirmed by someone somewhere that there will be nudity...but not gratiitous, it will be very tasteful, carefully placed camera angles and shadows etc, where the hell did I see that? *grumble*...I don't expect even nipples. I'm thinking more...ME? And by ME I mean ME1..

Since i loved everything about the ME1 romance sex scene, other than it being the same no matter who you were with, I'll be happy if they do something like this in DAI.


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Speaking of High Dragon romance, was it here that someone asked if Shapeshifting was coming back so they could shapeshift into a High Dragon and then romance a High Dragon in secret?
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Speaking of High Dragon romance, was it here that someone asked if Shapeshifting was coming back so they could shapeshift into a High Dragon and then romance a High Dragon in secret?

 

Theoretically possible.

 

Dragons can be lesbians too


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We're on to lesbian dragons at long last!  I wondered when we'd get here...


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What mission was this?
 
Never mind.  Apparently it was a joke sort of like the ones Sheldon tries on the big bang.   :)


He's talking about the human-Reaper. How'd you miss that?

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Theoretically possible.

 

Dragons can be lesbians too

 

If someone put that on John Eplers desk I wonder if he would jump out of a window.


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I wouldn't have mattered for Cailan, and it wouldn't have mattered to me. I'm sure we'd have an interesting enough "relationship" and if I get to be emporer, I could find other things to occupy my time.

Yeah, no kidding.  Orlais wouldn't be in the position it's in right now if Celene had just accepted that Empresses don't get to let things like that matter.



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...which is pretty much how something seemingly sacrosant could become a topic for a moral choice in a Bioware game. Just insert some antagonist to make the player feel like the defense party, and pretty much anything is allowed.


Sure. Bio games are fundamentally about ways to let the player feel good about killing people.