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#1876
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What if Leliana is a romance option if not romanced previously?

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ladyoflate

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she's not. This has been confirmed. And stated in this very thread. Over and over.



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Brian ofthe Dialogue Wheel

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she's not. This has been confirmed. And stated in this very thread. Over and over.

What if SHALE is a romance?



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What if SHALE is a romance?


Golem or dwarf form?

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Since she wasn't an LI in a previous game, it's technically possible! To which I say, why not.



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Golem or dwarf form?

Doubtful, she's holding out for the new Arishok.



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I don't disagree.  (To be clear, I put "relatable" in quotation marks strictly from the standpoint of "this person is different than I am" and don't mean it in a disparaging sort of way).

 

On the topic of realism, the most unrealistic aspect of our romances is that your potential partners are so utterly and exceptionally limited.  I mean, in DAO there's at most 3 people interested in having a long term relationship with you, while in DA2 there's at most 4.  I can't decide that that cute shop clerk is fascinating and ask her out on a date.

 

As such, the reality is that our romances are always created under the exceptional unrealistic circumstances of "needing us to create them."

 

Well, in my recent DAO run, I was able to hit on Bella in Redcliffe.  And that kiss she gave was rather a show-stopper for the inn  ;)

 

But yes, while the world is by necessity a created structure and thus "not real" it is the desire to make it seem natural and "realistic" that is important.



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Golem or dwarf form?

BOTH



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Doubtful, she's holding out for the new Arishok.

Are you implying she's after the butterfly sword?



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It's obvious from their dao banter.

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Yeah...Pretty obvious Shale wants a piece of Sten.



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It's obvious from their dao banter.

True, but I always took it as respect for a similar world view. Once she gets her fleshy bits back, however. . .



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Although, Sten dropped the "Kadan" title on her like pants after prom, though.



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True, but I always took it as respect for a similar world view. Once she gets her fleshy bits back, however. . .

 

Assuming of course she is successful in her endeavors. Of which I hope she does. It will be hilarious to see her try her hand at seduction.



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I don't know, it seems to have worked when she was just a pile of rocks.



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I don't know, it seems to have worked when she was just a pile of rocks.

 

Now that I think about it. I think you are correct. Knowing Sten He would most likely turn down Shale and at that point she would have given up being a Golem all for nothing and thus be one of those angst filled characters. Best that she remains a Golem for her own sake.



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Now that I think about it. I think you are correct. Knowing Sten He would most likely turn down Shale and at that point she would have given up being a Golem all for nothing and thus be one of those angst filled characters. Best that she remains a Golem for her own sake.

There aren't really chosen relationships in the Qun, and zero interracial couplings are allowed. : / Now, maybe Sten might go Tal-Vashoth, but I doubt it.



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There aren't really chosen relationships in the Qun, and zero interracial couplings allowed. : / Now, maybe Sten might go Tal-Vashoth, but doubt it.

 

Sten respects Shale, but I dobut he would go rogue for her. Especially as the Arishock now.


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Sten respects Shale, but I dobut he would go rogue for her. Especially as the Arishock now.

Maybe if the Qun dictated doing something he really disagreed with- like harming the Warden- but even that seems unlikely. Sten is Qunari4Lyfe. YOLBTQO (You Only Live by The Qun Once)



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Maybe if the Qun dictated doing something he really disagreed with- like harming the Warden- but even that seems unlikely. Sten is Qunari4Lyfe. YOLBTQO (You Only Live by The Qun Once)


Sten likes the Warden enough he would offer him/her a chance to join the Qun before going the route of "Forgive Kadan. For I regret what I must do."
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#1896
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Well, in my recent DAO run, I was able to hit on Bella in Redcliffe.  And that kiss she gave was rather a show-stopper for the inn  ;)

 

But yes, while the world is by necessity a created structure and thus "not real" it is the desire to make it seem natural and "realistic" that is important.

 

That's where I run into roadblocks though.  Suggesting that meeting a small number of bisexual people is unrealistic is a road I'm not comfortable driving down.  Especially when I'm skeptical that people would leverage the realism argument if all the romances were heterosexual.

 

If bisexual companions (especially only 4, and especially since there's still non-bisexual companions - they just don't romance the player) make a world seem unnatural or less realistic, it may be on the player to utilize some introspection on why they feel that way, in my opinion.


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If bisexual companions (especially only 4, and especially since there's still non-bisexual companions - they just don't romance the player) make a world seem unnatural or less realistic, it may be on the player to utilize some introspection on why they feel that way, in my opinion.

 

Talking to another BSNer on the Xbox One right now about this very subject, he brought up that he felt it odd that these bisexual companions were all the ones that would romance us, but the non-bisexual companions weren't interested.

 

The question of why couldn't a heterosexual character be interested in us in the last game? Basically, that its a good thing there's room to have our characters enter a relationship with another character with differing sexualities and interests than everyone sharing the same one.

 

On my end, and if it matters I'll point out I'm a heterosexual guy, I'm just glad that there are options for homosexual relationships like Sam and Cortez in ME3 now, instead of just dry "Straight or Bi".


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Talking to another BSNer on the Xbox One right now about this very subject, he brought up that he felt it odd that these bisexual companions were all the ones that would romance us, but the non-bisexual companions weren't interested.

The question of why couldn't a heterosexual character be interested in us in the last game? Basically, that its a good thing there's room to have our characters enter a relationship with another character with differing sexualities and interests than everyone sharing the same one.

On my end, and if it matters I'll point out I'm a heterosexual guy, I'm just glad that there are options for homosexual relationships like Sam and Cortez in ME3 now, instead of just dry "Straight or Bi".


Not entirely true. If I recall from Mass Effect Kaiden inquires about Femsheps friendliness and asks if he is reading it the wrong way.

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Talking to another BSNer on the Xbox One right now about this very subject, he brought up that he felt it odd that these bisexual companions were all the ones that would romance us, but the non-bisexual companions weren't interested.

 

Why is that odd?  Is there anything beyond "these are the experiences I'm most exposed to and therefore am most comfortable with?"


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The question of why couldn't a heterosexual character be interested in us in the last game?

 

Sebastian?

 

In the DA world, there have been 9 LI's.  3 have been straight and 6 have been bisexual.  It's a bit skewed, but there's representation of both straight and bisexual people.  With Sera being confirmed as a lesbian, we know that we are going to start seeing some gay representation as well.