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TheKomandorShepard

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Neither Warden or Hawke were "one of the most powerful people in Thedas.". The former was a Warden-Commander, which there are several of, and Hawke was at best the Viscount of Kirkwall for a year or so before running off. 

Well flemeth holds no position in society she still is powerful same for archdemon who pretty much holds title of most powerful creature in thedas.

 

When such individuals like celene or divine showed in fact they hold in reality little actual power



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I would have liked to have seen Hawke become the Inquisitor if that was originally planned for him/her. I have always thought Hawke could have done so much better if he had a bigger purpose such as going onto leading the Inquisition and doing more broader traveling, instead of being a stay-at-home Champion. I am glad Hawke's story is not over just yet. I hope there is more to come for Hawke's story in Inquisition.



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On the meta level, I've always subscribed to the theory that Hawke was meant to be the protagonist for the third game; a role that eventually became the Inquisitor.

 

Bioware did a lot to hype Hawke as a character prior to DA2's release, going so far as to call him/her "the most important person in Thedas"; in game, this is foreshadowed by Flemeth's cryptic warnings to Hawke that promise that they're meant for greater things.


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Now that I think about, it makes sense.

 

It's why the Warden and Hawke LOLdisappeared. Because they couldn't please the fans with either.

 

With the Warden, fans would ****** that the voice is not the one they imagined.

 

With Hawke, he's just a human and people want to play Qunari.

 

Well, damn.

 

You should never sacrifice good plot for the fans. 

They can complain all the want, in a practical world, the Warden does have a voice or else he/she would be a mute unable to communicate. Also, it's Bioware's character now they can and will do what they see fit with the Warden. 



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I don't think so. Yes they began early concept for this game in 2009 but I believe that the person who becomes Inquisitor was meant to be. Especially after the cancellation of the DA2 expansion. The Warden and Hawke are MIA so they can't led the Inquisition and also the Inquisitor has the ability to close down veils so it makes sense. Also, the Inquisitor physically walked out of the fade which not many can do so it makes perfect sense for him or her to be leader. Also, Bioware has had a lot of developmental time on DAI so I have faith in them to give us good background choices(not origins because of the inclusion of multiple races).



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BioWare never intended for Hawke to become the Inquisitor.... Sure they probably had bigger plans for hawke that they didn't get to actualize, but becoming the Inquisitor was not one of them.



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BioWare never intended for Hawke to become the Inquisitor.... Sure they probably had bigger plans for hawke that they didn't get to actualize, but becoming the Inquisitor was not one of them.

 

I don't think becoming the Inquisitor was going to be a thing earlier on in development. I think that Hawke was meant to be the protagonist of the third game and when that plan was scrapped, the Inquisitor was created. 


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we cant make a judgment just yet on the inquisitor, but i will say that it does really feel like a plan "c"

 

im also in favor of the new hero per game thing, keeps thing fresh.  With games like mass effect and the main halos (yes im one of 12 people who play the campaign) following the same character, it is nice to see the stories and how epic the character becomes, but by the 3rd one i just think that its redundant... i already know the pc is awesome, why do we keep having to try to explain our awesomeness to other idiots who wont listen after we presented them with so much evidence (talking about ME here)



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I don't think becoming the Inquisitor was going to be a thing earlier on in development. I think that Hawke was meant to be the protagonist of the third game and when that plan was scrapped, the Inquisitor was created. 

 

I can agree with you.

Maybe the inquisition wasn't planned at the beginning and the developers wanted the encounter between Cassandra and Hawke to lead elsewhere. But I'm pretty shure that Hawke was meant to be the protagonist of the third game.



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I'm wondering why everyone is following this guy around too. No explanation has been given so far as to who they are and why they can be any number of races. 

 

OGB would have been the natural protagonist here since it's a test of whether Morrigan was right or not. Would the OGB save the world, or doom it.

 

Same writers who wrote DA2? Not expecting an amazing job. I'm expecting fan service. 



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Where is evidence that Hawke was going to bet he Inquisitor that is not speculation?


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Hmm you are making assumption that DA2 was crappy game and everyone hates Hawke. DA2 really divided opinions but many love it and their Hawkes. I haven't even thought that Hawke was made as Inquisitor. He/she is only human which wouldn't give much to choose from to Inquisition players. Also Cassandra is looking for Warden I think, maybe she is looking for hero to save the day but she doesn't find them and had to settle with new one.


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If Hawke or/and the Warden get killed in the first 10 minutes I would be very disappointed.

I'm ok if they have to die, but I expect them both to kick the bucket with an aura of epicness around them. I would like to see, for example, my Warden die in order to save his/her romance (in my case, Morrigan) after taking down an horde of demons from the Veil. I dunno, something like what did Grunt during the Rachni mission in ME3 (the only difference is that Grunt survived. But you know, the Warden is not Urdnot Grunt :P)

About Hawke, I think it depends from who he/she supported in the end. A Pro-Mage Hawke could get killed while fighting alongside Rhys and other rebel Orlesian mages, for example.

 

Please Bioware, if they really have to die, make them bow out in style ç_ç. A green blast is not the way to get rid of two characters that we've all loved and hated at the same time.


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I don't think becoming the Inquisitor was going to be a thing earlier on in development. I think that Hawke was meant to be the protagonist of the third game and when that plan was scrapped, the Inquisitor was created. 

Hawke probably wasn't meant to be the protagonist in the thrid game, but he was supposed to be the protagonist in an expansion pack to DA2 called Exalted March, which would center around an Exalted March (duh) potentially targetting Kirkwall. However plans for this expansion pack were scrapped, and the team  moved on to begin on DA:I.


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I don't think becoming the Inquisitor was going to be a thing earlier on in development. I think that Hawke was meant to be the protagonist of the third game and when that plan was scrapped, the Inquisitor was created. 

i don't think so at all to be honest i thought and was stated before i think that all number games are going to new characters an expansion was planned but i think that was going to end hawk's story the third game was always going to be someone new 



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We have no reason to believe Inquisitor's back story will be crap to begin with, but we do have enough evidence to assume Hawke was simply her own character. The Devs have said many times they like focusing on a new character every DA game. I don't think there's a conspiracy here. 


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Hawke probably wasn't meant to be the protagonist in the thrid game, but he was supposed to be the protagonist in an expansion pack to DA2 called Exalted March, which would center around an Exalted March (duh) potentially targetting Kirkwall. However plans for this expansion pack were scrapped, and the team  moved on to begin on DA:I.

agreed with that i think that is where hawke's story would of ended



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Looks like it's on of those wrong place wrong time sort of things. Someone just posted a vid that gives the intro away. Inquisitor has plot powers from the green stuff.



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I could see myself playing Hawke again. Best one liners. Only thing that matters.

Inquisitor should get the Skyrim treatment, absolute nobody crossing the border ftw.



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Inquisitor should get the Skyrim treatment, absolute nobody crossing the border ftw.

 

What do you mean by this? Sorry... just confused.



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In my mind, the only reason you make a character like Hawke is to continue with them for multiple titles(see also, Commander Shepard). 

 

I think Exalted March would have lead in to the third game and would have gone a long way towards explaining why Hawke was stepping up towards bigger things, but I absolutely do not think that it would have been the end of Hawke's story under the original plan. 



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I think Hawke was meant for something more too. This is why I still prefer books for my storytelling. It's not as dictated by "market realities" and disgruntled fan reactions. And a writer is free to complete his/her story, without worrying about getting funded millions of dollars. I don't like how game and sometimes TV show stories putter out because of things like this.



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We have no reason to believe Inquisitor's back story will be crap to begin with, 

 

The Inquisitor is some random guy/girl who just happens to be there when a rift opens killing a lot of people and just happens to get magic rift powers. Then a bunch of people chase after them for the magic rift powers and said magic rift powers are the key to solving the plot.



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Well, while standing by my previous statements, I'm also not entirely convinced the decision to get a different lead character was entirely based on fan reaction to Hawke so much as internal examination of exactly what they wanted to do with the next game and deciding another protagonist, a protagonist without a set origin, served them better. 

 

Of course, I don't know what the catalyst behind the decision was; truthfully I don't know that the decision was made at all. It's completely possible others are right and Hawke was only ever meant for a game and expansion; I don't believe that, but I'm always the first to admit I might be wrong. Still, if I am right, I'm not going to presume to speculate further on the reasoning for the change.



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The Inquisitor is some random guy/girl who just happens to be there when a rift opens killing a lot of people and just happens to get magic rift powers. Then a bunch of people chase after them for the magic rift powers and said magic rift powers are the key to solving the plot.

 

We are born. We live. We die.

 

I just summed all of our lives in seven words.

 

Apparently life is short and generic now.